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thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 21 2013 13:51 GMT
#585
On November 21 2013 22:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am also telling you Rean will not flip scum so good luck with that, i won't be voting for him.


Can you do jampidampi?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 21 2013 14:08 GMT
#589
On November 21 2013 22:51 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 22:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am also telling you Rean will not flip scum so good luck with that, i won't be voting for him.


Can you do jampidampi?


Nice to know you don't want to talk about your scum bud
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 21 2013 14:47 GMT
#624
nice scumclaim rayn
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 21 2013 14:49 GMT
#626
should be this

On November 21 2013 23:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If you don't lynch me today i will spam the thread with bullshit as long as i live

"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 21 2013 14:50 GMT
#627
##unvote
##vote: raynpelikoneet
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 21 2013 14:53 GMT
#632
rayn i'm sorry but

A) you have claimed scum with basically every post you've made recently
B) i don't care too much for a lot of other things in your filter
C) I am perfectly fine with policy lynching someone who claims he will spam the thread if the lynch doesn't go his way

actually on point C don't even think it's policy lynching because making threats like that is basically scum claiming
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 21 2013 14:56 GMT
#637
On November 21 2013 23:50 jampidampi wrote:
thrawn, earlier you said that Aqunim was the misslynch wagon. What made you think that?


What moc said about him and I misreading aqua's play rang true with me and I didn't feel too great about the people voting alongside me... namely you and rean
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 21 2013 15:03 GMT
#651
rayn what you're saying is terrible

you start by acting all high and mighty saying there's no way you'll consilidate onto the rean lynch and you KNOW rean will flip town.... while proposing lynches that nobody else wants and you KNOW nobody will go along with

i asked your opinion on another lynch (jampi) and you deflected by saying you're gonna lynch me D2 if i don't stop calling you scum

now you're trying to take complete control of the thread and force people to lynch one of two players (you/moc) that up until now nobody has even said anything about lynching, claiming you will ruin the game for everyone if they don't play along

so many scum claims. even if you are town which I absolutely do not think is the case I don't want you in this game if this is how you're gonna be. this is supposed to be bootcamp mafia not raynspam mafia
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 21 2013 19:32 GMT
#755
On November 22 2013 01:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If you are a town leader as you have acted like and think i am the best lynch then fucking convince people of it. If you think Rean is the best lynch convince people of it. You will be held accountable for your actions anyways. thrawn acts like a town leader but when shit gets real he takes the easy way out, and that is bullshit, ecpecially considering the dude claims he can read me. Either he has no clue what he is talking about or he is scum.

I want to lynch Jampidampi because i think he is scum and Rean is not. In case you, Mocsta, think i am scum i suggest you join the wagon because if you lynch me you'll see a town flip and then you are in deep shit because you failed to listen to the town leader you are supposed to be good at reading and you did not lynch "his 100% scumbuddy" you were okay with lynching with before. Same can be said about thrawn.


The thread is stuck in a loop. Anytime someone talks to rayn or talks about lynching him, he insults them or calls them scum. His favorite tactic so far has been saying what reads people should be making and ends it by "and if they don't agree they're scum"

He is getting lynched. There is little reasoning for any of his thoughts or reads, and most of the reasoning is accompanied by insults that distract you and make you think his posts sound more intelligent than they are. He is trying to make his filter worthless to town after he flips red.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 21 2013 19:54 GMT
#762
Here is rayn's case against mocsta without insults

Mocsta made some snide comments (pretend qt posts) about jampidampi being scum with rayn. Rayn says is mocsta is town he should be voting jampi.

iirc mocsta has never said jampi is his top scumread

Rayn is accusing Mocsta and sometimes me (I can't really tell) of voting our top scumread, rayn, an action which he said is the townie thing to do when he accused (or bussed who knows) jampi of being scummy for not voting rayn.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 21 2013 23:32 GMT
#814
rayn can you tldr explain why you think rean is town. reread him first and I will do the same.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 21 2013 23:33 GMT
#817
On November 22 2013 08:32 Holyflare wrote:
Jesus christ, I'm about half way now and half of you are making full blown cases on people based on page 1 posts, this is shambolic and ridiculous.


say something useful
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 22 2013 00:06 GMT
#826
I don't like admitting it but I read jjd's filter and I have no clue why I have found him townie all game long.... right now my ego is preventing me from coming to a conclusion about this so I will work on that after writing this post on what I think about other stuff.

For now, ##unvote because i'm scared that rayn is town because his comment about his play in desert somewhat convinced me that what he's doing could be town rayn play.. for all who don't know, near the end of the D1 lynch rayn fakeclaimed something to try and save a guy from getting lynched rayn had a town read on.... and that wasn't the only time that game he fakeclaimed to try and force his will upon the thread. I'm also scared that if he is town then a rayn lynch doesn't tell us anything about anyone's lynch motivations because he was so easy to vote for.

On November 22 2013 05:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
thrawn if you are town i ask you the following: (1) What's your current read on Jampidampi? (2) Pretend for a second i am not in the game (what i mean is ignore the me <-> others shitstorm), who are your top 2 scumreads and why?


I was about to push him as an alternate lynch to Rean until you caused all the drama. At that moment when you literally promised to spam the thread with BS if people don't lynch one of Mocsta or you there was no doubt in my mind you were scum. Jampi's hesitancy towards reading you is probably bad no matter your alignment.

Here is what i said about him before all the you drama:

On November 21 2013 20:24 thrawn2112 wrote:
He entered the game without commentating on the biggest thing going on at the time, the Aqua case. When pressured about this he agreed too quickly (if he liked my case so much why is there nothing in his filter about Aqua before I ask him to comment), threw his vote down (on what I now perceive to be the mislynch scum has been hoping for) and hasn't put any more effort into the game.


This post was made before most of jampi's filter happened but that is only because jampi afk'd from the thread for an extremely long period of time. When he came back he kept talking about his aqua scumread (a scumread that I already said I don't think came about naturally) and he has been tunneled onto aqua ever since I asked him if he liked my aqua case. He doesn't drive conversation forwards when he posts, at least not in any way that is very useful or relevant to finding scum.

Right now I think i want to lynch jampi but first I need to reassess my reads on rean/jarjar.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 22 2013 00:10 GMT
#828
Rayn your turn. I want to know how you went from declaring D1 to be you vs mocsta to what looks like a current town read on him. And talk about rean, jampi... maybe JarJar some more because I do think he's scummy but I'm not quite convinced.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 22 2013 00:12 GMT
#830
On November 22 2013 09:08 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 04:32 thrawn2112 wrote:
On November 22 2013 01:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If you are a town leader as you have acted like and think i am the best lynch then fucking convince people of it. If you think Rean is the best lynch convince people of it. You will be held accountable for your actions anyways. thrawn acts like a town leader but when shit gets real he takes the easy way out, and that is bullshit, ecpecially considering the dude claims he can read me. Either he has no clue what he is talking about or he is scum.

I want to lynch Jampidampi because i think he is scum and Rean is not. In case you, Mocsta, think i am scum i suggest you join the wagon because if you lynch me you'll see a town flip and then you are in deep shit because you failed to listen to the town leader you are supposed to be good at reading and you did not lynch "his 100% scumbuddy" you were okay with lynching with before. Same can be said about thrawn.


The thread is stuck in a loop. Anytime someone talks to rayn or talks about lynching him, he insults them or calls them scum. His favorite tactic so far has been saying what reads people should be making and ends it by "and if they don't agree they're scum"

He is getting lynched. There is little reasoning for any of his thoughts or reads, and most of the reasoning is accompanied by insults that distract you and make you think his posts sound more intelligent than they are. He is trying to make his filter worthless to town after he flips red.

With a completely clear head.

This is a great post actually.

Thrawn is back in the good books.


Why Mocsta why....... I just now decided to explore the possibilty that rayn is town and you go ahead and reconfirm my earlier doubts about him!

poop
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 22 2013 00:20 GMT
#835
On November 22 2013 09:18 Aquanim wrote: What he's actually done feels more to me like he's searching for a wagon which someone will bite on, which would be scum-motivated (he doesn't care who the lynch is so long as it isn't him). So far he's gone through Mocsta, Bereft, Jampidampi, you, JJD and not stuck for very long on any of them. Do you agree/disagree?


ok I am reconvinced

##unvote
##vote: raynpelikoneet


rayn I still want to continue talking about what we're talking about
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 22 2013 00:23 GMT
#839
On November 22 2013 09:10 thrawn2112 wrote:
I want to know how you went from declaring D1 to be you vs mocsta to what looks like a current town read on him.


answer this

"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 22 2013 00:33 GMT
#850
On November 22 2013 09:30 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 09:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Look. I am really sure bot Rean and Jampidampi are town.
Rean i have given my reasons on.
Jampidampi because of his stance on me. Look how i went batshit crazy on him He stayed calm, he did not take the easy way out of saying "yeah rayn is scum, fuck you martyr shitting up the thread". Instead he said "i know what you did in NWM, you do this stuff, why am i scum according to you?". That was so really townie.

WHAT??? That was the exact reason you gave him a scumread earlier. You basically said that he was scum because he should be voting for you for shitting up the thread.

Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 00:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Jampidampi that's a really bad post and there was no townie motivation behind my last 10 posts (towards anyone else than Mocsta - who i should probably realize is incapable to see the point anyways, my bad) because that's what i was trying to do.

I can't find any reasons why you should have not voted for me unless you know i am town and therefore scum.



+1 I like JarJar again
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 22 2013 00:54 GMT
#875
Rayn I still have no idea what your reads are (the reason for this is that you do not give good enough explanations and sometimes don't give any explanations when your reads change) and why they change so quickly... I liked bereft's interpretation, that you are just changing reads so that whoever is calling you scum looks bad, and trying to place nice whenever someone changes their read on you in the scummy to townie direction.

This is the exact same issue I had with your play when you first entered the game... it looked like you quickly changing your read on me in order to tell me what I want to hear.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 22 2013 00:55 GMT
#878
*play nice
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
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