Like i said earlier "i think thrawn is very towny" so he was my most likely save, if i get vigd and flip doctor you then knew who my heal was on and so it stops any attempted shenanigans that scum can pull. He should get free town cred by way of this. If it gets to night 2 however and a double shot happens then seriously reconsider etc etc. That was my line of thought anyway

Holyflare

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November 23 2013 03:13 GMT

#1215

I can never be 100% guaranteed in a lynch. A no lynch gives scum a free night of kills and we gather no information from a flip. Arguably, yes he was a towny but lynch wagons are ideal situations to determine motive. That is why anyone that requests a policy lynch in a game of mafia is scummy as hell. If you have a problem with a person then talk to the host, don't actively go against a win con.

Holyflare

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November 23 2013 03:17 GMT

#1217

As for reasons I thought he was town it's all over his filter. I can link you evidence if you want for future rayn games but he is dead so it's up to you if you want. That being said rayn doesn't go all out to defend someone against thread sentiment if he is scum, he actively got into arguments because of it. What scum mindset can you see there? A scum would just back down because the limelight isn't something he needs and he's not goong to want to get homself lynched over someone else.

Holyflare

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November 23 2013 03:20 GMT

#1219

It's scummy to policy lynch in a game of information because you are actively masking your intentions if the policy was not there. I didn't think you needed that spelt out for you.

Holyflare

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November 23 2013 03:24 GMT

#1222

Oh please, you want me to lecture people who are deadset on policy lynching someone? Yeh that never works there are way too many egos involved and post lynch people most definitely calm down and can see the bigger picture.

Holyflare

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November 24 2013 00:57 GMT

#1393

What's up?

Holyflare

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November 24 2013 00:58 GMT

#1394

That onegu thing is really REALLY scummy by the way.

Holyflare

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November 24 2013 00:59 GMT

#1396

Also, some guy asked me to claim my flavour at some point, I think it was bereft? What is the point of that when scum get fake claims?

Holyflare

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November 24 2013 01:09 GMT

#1400

The part where he pretty much copies exactly what I said. He even replied to my point saying it here:

On November 22 2013 22:39 Onegu wrote:

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Stop multiple people you have mentioned havent flipped.

He clearly acknowledges what I have said and then doesn't write about it at all until he returns with the exact same thing I have said. You think scum/scum do that? I don't think so. You clearly have no idea how I play and trust me it is not terribly like you assume, maybe you should read around me a bit.

On November 24 2013 09:59 cDgCorazon wrote:

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What's the point of claiming doctor in the first place. If you're going to do something stupid you might as well go all the way.

I've told you my reasons for claiming doctor and somebody implied they changed when quite clearly they didn't. I returned to the thread and didn't say much. Today was most likely to be an entire day of "oh HF is really scummy lets talk about his complete lack of posts and infer stuff about them when we have no idea" not only did revealing avoid that but I think thrawn was likely to get killed because I think mocsta is scum and he had a high buddy buddy association with thrawn. Mocsta is prime suspect number 1 coming out of this by the way. He calls cora town straight off the bat after the lynch and THEN does a filter dive to say that cora is town all over again. What would be the point in confirming someone he already has a read on? He wants credit from the town by way of appearing to contribute information. He get's called out for playing to an anti-town win con and then says oh "another high horse player, you don't even believe what you're writing" in order to poo-poo players off actual logic.

Holyflare

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November 24 2013 01:13 GMT

#1402

Am I allowed to copy/paste all of it or is there a rule against it?

Holyflare

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November 24 2013 01:16 GMT

#1403

Ok I can post it all:

Welcome to Back to the Basics Mini Mafia! You are Ronnie Lanzo a Smuggler, known as "the Runner", you've been in the trafficking business for so long you don't remember life without it. Once per night you can lock someone up in a shipping container (to keep them safe from the cops) at night. When you hide someone from the police, they will still be able to use their contacts and any other resources at their disposal, but any attempts to arrest or shoot them will fail, unless they are targeted by two or more kp. Protect your business, find the cops!

Holyflare

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November 24 2013 01:20 GMT

#1404

Hey look it's jarjar, the guy people think is scum asking me to claim so he can now kill me, yay?

Holyflare

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November 24 2013 01:28 GMT

#1407

On November 24 2013 10:27 Aquanim wrote:
Also @Holyflare: Did it occur to you that the best way to deal with any suspicions on you today would be to play well and convince us you were town, rather than claiming a town PR?

Yes, but I can't, so claiming a town PR is what I did. Also, if you don't like my attitude, policy lynch me. Town quite clearly has no qualms about doing that. I can act how I please thank you very much.

Holyflare

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November 24 2013 02:39 GMT

#1414

On November 24 2013 10:48 cDgCorazon wrote:
EBWOP: ^Scum mindset^ (he's hiding under his claim)

If you really think I play scum by claiming doctor and posting next to nothing to look towny you are actually dumb and have not done what I asked. Like I said, go read actual games I have played in.

Holyflare

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November 24 2013 02:44 GMT

#1416

Also @ scib. My actual thought process was that I have contributed nothing and likely couldn't till the end of the weekend, if I just tell them I'm actually the doctor right now scum can get rid of me instead of someone who contributes and it would avoid a lot of wasted effort on this day focusing on me. It doesn't matter who i saved really and who i announced because if I didn't die then they saved their kp for a double kill the next night. If by chance they missed what I said then thrawn was a likely target.

Holyflare

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November 24 2013 02:45 GMT

#1417

On November 24 2013 11:42 cDgCorazon wrote:

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Why are you using your claim as an excuse for doing nothing?

Please just vote me off then because you are wasting your time being antagonistic towards it. Either I contribute more on my own accord or I don't. Repeatedly telling me to won't effect my posts.

Holyflare

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November 24 2013 02:53 GMT

#1420

You just spent your whole post explaining what I've already said and conveniently was ignored by both cora and jar jar because they wanted my flavour?

Holyflare

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November 24 2013 02:54 GMT

#1421

On November 24 2013 11:52 JarJarDrinks wrote:
@Cora, are you a doc and that's why you don't buy HFs claim? Threre's no reason to keep it secret if it's true since scum will likely suspect you anyway.

Are you scum trying to out doctors when there is quite clearly one here?

Holyflare

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November 24 2013 02:55 GMT

#1424

Yup

Holyflare

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November 24 2013 03:00 GMT

#1428

On November 24 2013 11:57 JarJarDrinks wrote:

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I think multiple docs is unlikely. I'm trying to figure out why cora doesn't buy your claim.

It's pretty simple he wants to mislynch the doctor to save himself using kp on me.

Either way, if 2kp happens tonight and I'm not one of them you can lynch me but there are scum to find so I suggest you get to that because I will be soon.