EPTOn November 27 2013 10:56 Holyflare wrote:
I would assume 2
I would assume 2
So, you think you are special?
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So, you think you are special? | ||
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On November 27 2013 10:57 Holyflare wrote: I am definitely special Am I special? | ||
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On November 27 2013 10:58 Holyflare wrote: I do not know but you have been hinting at it for most of the game That's because my mommy told me that I was special. My kindergarten teacher did too! | ||
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On November 27 2013 11:00 Holyflare wrote: <3 you're special to me too So, if I am special and you are special. Is there a special police force? | ||
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On November 27 2013 11:07 Holyflare wrote: When I was in one of my newbies I yelled at a guy until he conceded as scum, no cases or anything! It was glorius. I miss when times were that simple. ROOOOAAAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ROAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HELLO THERE!! I AM AWESOME!!! YOU HAVE BROKEN THE CHEZINU RULE!!!!!! WHAT TYPE OF FLARE ARE YOU?? | ||
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I see. So, now you are claim that your suicidal attempt to lynch yourself is going against the Play to Win rule? | ||
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On November 27 2013 11:16 Holyflare wrote: I defer to my own team, the one where they don't believe fake claiming cops! The blue state. | ||
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On November 27 2013 09:30 ObviousOne wrote: Basic Vote Count Onegu (1): Mocsta (0): cDgCorazon (1): Onegu, Holyflare (5): Bereft, sciberbia, Holyflare, Mocsta, Alakaslam Not Voting (1): Chezinu Holyflare is currently set to be lynched. 8 players alive means 5 votes to lynch. If you find an error in the vote count, please let me know. Day 2 ends in at 03:00 GMT (+00:00) Who has time to read text that aren't about me? | ||
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On November 21 2013 10:54 sciberbia wrote: The fact of the matter is I only have so much time to post per day, and I chose to allocate my time last night towards posting about Cora, my strongest scumread at the time, instead of you, as my read on you were not as strong. My problem with Rean's early play was well highlighted by Aquanim. Part of the reason I'm not too confident in an Aquanim lynch is I've agreed with a lot of his thoughts about Rean and Cora. Specifically I agree with Aquanim that Rean's early play lacks purpose. It doesn't look like he's actively scumhunting. In fact he has to be practically "talked into" his first scumread. Rean made a bunch of noncomittal observations, and then when specifically asked to look at Cora's argument on me, calls it persuasive, but also goes out of his way to mention that it "gets discussion started and gets us somewhere useful". He also doesn't score any points for agreeing with an argument that I think is objectively bad. I also don't like how Rean repeatedly calls out lurkers. This is typical of scum wanting to shift attention elsewhere and perhaps start an easy wagon. The things that give me pause concernign Rean are his activity and overall abrasiveness. Specifically, I don't know why he'd be picking this fight with me if he were scum. Given that I called him scummy, it strategically doesn't make any sense for him to provoke me, and actively engage in discussion with me, just as I said I'm deciding between him and a few others as my top candidate. Overall, leaning scum on him, but probably not the best lynch today. On November 21 2013 11:08 sciberbia wrote: I'm gonna put Cora in the same place as Rean for now. He could be scum and my previous points on him still stand, but there is enough reason to think he is town to not lynch him today. I was expecting scum!Cora to continue tunneling me, but I like that he has diversified his reads a bit and done some prodding and pushing with Onegu and Aquanim, for which I see more town motivation for than scum motivation. I feel a lot better about lynching Onegu because literally nothing in Onegu's filter makes me not want to lynch him. He's been fairly lurky, and the little posting he does have doesn't look town motivated. ##Unvote ##Vote: Onegu HaHA YOU SO FUNNY!!! | ||
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On November 22 2013 10:02 Bereft wrote: hahaha. classic. anyone who thinks you are town is town. The flare was right. The punishment for knowing too much, especially if you act crazy is death. Hide your knowledge next time. The flare is perhaps the dim light of the first dawn. | ||
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1. You have broken the Chezinu Rule 2. You have lied to the family. 3. You have left the family for another. 4. You have been condemned by the Wisdom of the Dead. ##Vote Holyflare + Show Spoiler + 1.+ Show Spoiler + Doesn't need an explanation 2.+ Show Spoiler + fake claim 3.+ Show Spoiler + blue state 4.+ Show Spoiler + On November 25 2013 12:00 JarJarDrinks wrote: Why didn't Holys flavor say (medic) in parenthesis like mine and rayns say (vanilla townie)? On November 26 2013 11:58 Aquanim wrote: (A lot of this has been said already since I wrote a fair bit of it last night. But you can have it anyway.) Who to lynch tomorrow? My preference is Chezinu or Onegu. I'm pretty sure both of them are in the scumteam along with one of Holyflare/Alakaslam. The case on Jampidampi by Mocsta and the "scumslip" picked up by Thrawn is probably as close to a read on Chezinu as we're going to get, especially if Thrawn dies (since I'm pretty sure none of the rest of us have much prior experience with Chez). May as well flip that coin sooner rather than later. As for Onegu, this last tossup with Corazon has finally broken my credulity in just how few damns Onegu gives about this game. I honestly don't think there's any way he can have thought those two posts by Corazon were at the 2-hour mark if he's seriously analysing this game. His cases on Bereft and Mocsta could easily have been written by scum just pulling out post after post after post from their filters and saying the first damning-sounding thing which comes to mind. And while I was fooled by Onegu's indignation yesterday, I've been fooled by Onegu playing dumb before (see Newbie 43). I don't intend to let it happen again. You can lynch Onegu first to satisfy Corazon, if you like. As for Holyflare: - I have never seen him angry as town, but that's the vibe I'm getting here - I have never seen him this disinterested as town. Read page 4 of his filter, compare it to any town game he's played in the past, and tell me that this is a town Holyflare who is genuinely interested in pushing a lynch - He could claim to save somebody who aren't the two who scum kills. In that case, use your judgement. - Sure he hasn't played like this as scum before, but there's no reason to change his town meta into this and plenty of reason to change his scum meta (replaced into a scum team with lurkers, just plain doesn't want to even try to contribute) A quick aside re. Holyflare + Show Spoiler + If there's a save tonight obviously don't lynch Holy tomorrow, but still keep him on your radar. His play so far this game has been COMPLETELY unlike his town play, and maybe this is the scum team trying to protect Holy. It would explain their motive for having him claim in the first place. It does give us another mislynch so I think it would be poor play, but my opinion is hardly going to stop them... maybe, MAYBE he'll get off his ass and contribute now that the weekend's over. But I think he's just scum. (Having difficulty reconciling that with the doctor claim, but... frankly that doctor claim was a f***ing awful idea whatever his alignment, so I guess it being risky as scum isn't scum-indiciative.) Alakaslam I still gotta think about. If I die you're probably better off considering what he posts tomorrow rather than whatever thoughts I have now anyway. In the light of this claim I have no idea who scum will shoot. If they shoot me, good luck - you're gonna need it. (tl;dr I agree with sciberbia and mocsta, {Holyflare // Rean, Chezinu (jampi), Onegu}) Last-minute additions: Corazon's cop claim... gah. I don't see the point if he's scum. But damn it why did you claim so long before deadline? If the scum have a framer we could be led entirely up the garden path. I hope he's planning to check someone who isn't Onegu and was just claiming that to lead scum astray. I'd far prefer to see a check on Chezinu or even Holyflare than Onegu. Given how hard Corazon bashed on Holy for his claim I have hopes that Corazon has plans he hasn't revealed yet. | ||
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On November 28 2013 00:06 Holyflare wrote: <3 Wait... is that emotion from a robot? I.. I.. I don't understand. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On November 27 2013 02:07 Bereft wrote: Cora has been a pretty unwavering town read for me since n1/d2. his explanation to moc of why he never gave scib a strong town read in his posting was extremely solid. while I don't know if I agree with him claiming 40 min before the deadline was over, his rationalization of it was consistent with a townie mindset in my opinion. compare this to HF whose explanations and rationalizations for his actions are completely inconsistent with an actual blue role. I cannot believe for a moment he would be around at the deadline and change his save target to Cora without even questioning Cora's motivations, considering the suspicions he has of him. combined with the way he acted N1, it is basically impossible that even the most confused and foolish of doctors would do the things he's doing. I think onegu is a good lynch but HF is a safer one. when we are at mylo I don't see any harm in being risk averse, and I hope you guys will agree. also this last bit might be a bit of a stretch, but considering how he implies cora should've checked him he's probably the GF. if he flips GF we know that the scum check on onegu is basically unquestionable. ##Unvote ##Vote: Holyflare On November 27 2013 05:39 cDgCorazon wrote: If you guys can't see how Onegu is scum even after a red check, I don't really want to play the game anymore. We're lynching Onegu first. The argument about framer/GF is as much WIFOM as the argument that HF missed two saves. I'm not going to have you guys not listen to me three days in a row and so I'm going to force an Onegu lynch first. My vote stays on Onegu. On November 27 2013 08:55 Bereft wrote: please cora, it's not that we doubt you. I just think we need to be careful since it's MYLO and we can't discount the possibility of mafia steamrolling us. voting HF is like the difference between lynching someone who's 98% probability scum vs 93% probability scum. I know those numbers are completely arbitrary, but those are basically my confident intervals. there's no downside in getting rid of HF first, and doing so may give us an indication of red power roles. I'm inclined to think HF is GF because of his holier than thou attitude whenever we ask him about motive (see: "I'm too meta for this game", etc). if a cop check came back green on him, he could claim he was trying to draw fire power in lieu of a more townie member (effectively what he's trying to do now with his vet claim now that we are making him sweat). Cora, think of it this way: why take that 4% chance there's a miller or framer at play when there's no harm in saving onegu for tomorrow? On November 27 2013 12:56 Mocsta wrote: In smurf Town had a medic Scum had a framer lol But the intent was to have experieneced players only. If town has a cop, I prefer a gf or miller vs rb or framer Framer makes game too complicated for basics as both could keep missing the same targets. Gf/miller has a higher chance of guaranteeing dynamics. Having said that I like the theory of hf being gf , thus making onegu certain scum | ||
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On November 28 2013 11:46 Holyflare wrote: Needs to happen does not make sense. You aren't reading my cases at all. It's pretty blatant that those 2 are scummy! This is mylo mocsta not a random point in the game you can afford to be wrong! Well, if you are town. You have been blatantly playing against your win condition. If we lose, I'll just enjoy thanksgiving with the family tomorrow. | ||
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