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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 22 2013 02:55 GMT
#1082
oh ffs seriously you guys are making a wrong move

##Vote: Rayn
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 22 2013 03:32 GMT
#1101
Onegu is someone who prides himself in reading rayn, he even started to call him town at his last post before he afk'd. If he knew rayn was displaying his towny attributes why did he not try and convince any of you that he wasn't scum?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 22 2013 03:48 GMT
#1103
On November 22 2013 12:41 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 12:32 Holyflare wrote:
Onegu is someone who prides himself in reading rayn, he even started to call him town at his last post before he afk'd. If he knew rayn was displaying his towny attributes why did he not try and convince any of you that he wasn't scum?

Well, his last post was at like 3am.. i dunno


So.. am I still scum to you?


From what I've read so far, I mean, you of all people have played with rayn and that vote just now was pure policy. You know I have also played with rayn a lot and so when I call him town based on what I've read you shouldn't throw it away and still lynch him. Yes he may have been obnoxious and shit flinging but that is because he was quite clearly annoyed at people. He was emotionally invested. It is hard to fake it the way he did and whether he was annoying or not a towny is a towny. You actively went against a win con because you did not want to play with him again.

THAT is scummy. There was Aqua who blatantly disregarded anything rayn said at all. The crux of it comes down to this: He had reads on people that disagreed with thread sentiment. He thought he was correct in those reads and shit things up, so what part of that would have been scummy to you? He went balls to the wall defending someone other people think is scum. Do you think he'd associate that strongly with someone if he was scum? That is not how rayn plays at all.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 22 2013 03:53 GMT
#1107
Why are you asking me if you are scum if quite clearly I gave your name in a list of people I want to lynch then??
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 22 2013 03:54 GMT
#1109
I'm also displaying to the thread that you are actively participating in losing this game on purpose.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 22 2013 03:58 GMT
#1113
I told you them in LXIII, a game in which both you and thrawn were/are in. How do you not know what rayn town tells are by now?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 22 2013 03:59 GMT
#1114
Thrawn also quite clearly posted in bold and all caps that rayn was most definitely town and also voted him. So there's that too.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 22 2013 04:00 GMT
#1115
Let me break this down for everyone else:

Onegu posts that rayn is town, onegu knows rayn's meta (thrawn and mocsta know this)
Mocsta sees onegu is afk, doesn't try and confirm rayn's meta to people, policy lynches him
Thrawn, calls rayn obviously towny, lynches him
Aqua, ignores everything rayn says, policy lynches him

1 of you is scum
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 22 2013 04:07 GMT
#1117
at least 1*

Onegu calls a person he can read well based off of meta town. You do not try and read into this any further or use it to stop a rayn lynch and then you just ask me why I didn't do the same thing? I clearly did not have as much time as you did to elaborate.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 22 2013 04:17 GMT
#1120
No scum motive? Rayn is a good player, he plays a lot and he can actually find scum. What better way to get him out than agree with policy lynching him. You didn't have to explain onegu's town read to anyone because they didn't care "hey rayn is shitting up the thread so it doesn't matter if he dies k". The fact that you don't have more reasons for lynching rayn over other scum reads than policy is a scum motive because IT ACTIVELY FIGHTS THE WIN CON.

I don't know what else you want????
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 22 2013 17:30 GMT
#1156
On November 23 2013 02:28 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2013 02:06 cDgCorazon wrote:
The only reason I could see scum trying to lynch Rayn is if his reads were right.
Um. wouldn't scum be more inclined to have him flip green ASAP if his reads were wrong?


Yes, rayn pushes any target he has forever, wrong or right. If he's alive he can screw up the thread in that respect (as you guys saw). If his reads were wrong a scum team that knows him would keep him alive. So most likely his reads were right and he got lynched ("policy lynched") for it.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 23 2013 02:43 GMT
#1182
I am doctor and I saved thrawn.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 23 2013 02:45 GMT
#1185
On November 23 2013 11:43 cDgCorazon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2013 11:43 Holyflare wrote:
I am doctor and I saved thrawn.

What


Never know when a random vig can take you out and especially as my play has been bad
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 23 2013 02:46 GMT
#1187
Oh well shit, at least there's only 10 mins... Don't think anyone is checking. Especially as mocsta just went afk
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 23 2013 02:47 GMT
#1188
I'm kidding of course i knew it isnt +1 you tit
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 23 2013 02:49 GMT
#1190
I'm a good shot for a vig, if there is one and he sees, he can save a shot, if scum sees they can kill me over a more towny looking person, it's the only thing i could have done
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 23 2013 02:50 GMT
#1191
How about you use some logic before you insult my claim
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 23 2013 02:50 GMT
#1192
You would have debated me all day and it would have been a waste, this is nothing but a pro town move my friend
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 23 2013 02:53 GMT
#1195
If i survive you get your doctor for another night, if i die you don't really lose a player
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 23 2013 02:54 GMT
#1197
If you say so
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