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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 26 2013 03:03 GMT
#2040
HF is guaranteed scum too btw. Doctor save had to be Aquanim.

Could toss up Thrawn/Sciberbia.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 26 2013 03:51 GMT
#2045
So it's 5-3 and MYLO

Cora fake claim could be an awesome start to finish off the game but I prefer his play as town. And the sudden change on sciberbia does seem hard to fake.

I much prefer hf giving up and deciding to copy the blszinghand fake doc claim strat.
This buys them another cycle and possibly gets a mislynch.

Fact. Holyflare has nothing nothing all game.
Corazon has been present all cycles.

Yes scum is
Hf, onegu, chezinu

Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 26 2013 03:52 GMT
#2046
Slam. Come join us bud !!
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 26 2013 04:03 GMT
#2049
Corazon, I have been through all your posts that have "scib" in them post-Day2.

I dont get your position on 2 specific posts:

On November 25 2013 07:22 cDgCorazon wrote:
Lol this game is over.

Alakaslam isn't going to read the game.
Chezinu isn't going to read the game.
HF isn't going to play, only going to hide under his doc claim.
Thrawn isn't going to play, only going to buddy everyone.
JJD/Bereft/Onegu/Sciberia aren't active enough (over the course of the entire game, Onegu is doing better though)

@Aqua/Moc
Let's just vote all of these guys out systematically? Then we can have a 3-way Mexican standoff if we haven't killed the scum yet.
You already gave reasons earlier for why you had a town read on Sciberbia, yet hes not in your "keep as town" list?

Then:
On November 25 2013 15:38 cDgCorazon wrote:
Ok, I'm just going to throw my idea out there.
In my opinion, the biggest problem of Day 2 was the lack of thread movement in the first 20 hours. This was frustrating for me and for a lot of other active players. It obviously wasn't ideal and I think we need a way to fix that and force people to lurk less; we had to choose between 4-5 lurkers and they had no reason or motivation to delurk. This is bad.

What is my suggestion to counter this? We form a town circle with Me, Aqua, Mocsta, and Bereft/Sciberia (one or possibly both).

+ Show Spoiler +
These five have been the most active players in the game and I think we can all put our heads together and force the others to de-lurk.

How do we accomplish this? We should all talk for the rest of N2 and the beginning of D3. We should decide on a lynch within the first part of D3 and all pack our votes on that one player. This would force that person to delurk and we can change our vote or not based on their responses.

I think we need to work closer together and form a temporary alliance for at least D3 and hopefully D4 if enough of the players are still around. If we can get 5 people in our circle, we can force scum to kill either two people in the circle (and either force HF to protect someone in the circle or out him as scum with a fake claim) or we can have 4 people in our circle and bully one other player into voting with us (if HF is town and gets shot).


Let me know if this is a good idea or if I'm just dumb.
Shouldn't this be:
Me, Aqua, Mocsta, Sciberbia and MAYBE Bereft?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 26 2013 04:05 GMT
#2050
On November 26 2013 12:56 Bereft wrote:
good job team.

mocsta forgive me, I was wrong.

Its OK, nothing to be forgiven about.

I was jumping all over the place which allows me to not hold firm opinions - so I can understand the suspicion.
I'm going to get grilled for it post-game, I just know it.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 26 2013 04:06 GMT
#2051
##Vote: 24hr Day
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 26 2013 04:11 GMT
#2053
That wasnt the answer I was predicting.

Its actually better than what I was predicting.

Awesome. I will follow you with my eyes closed into MYLO cap'n.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 26 2013 05:45 GMT
#2059
Ac tually onegu totally convinced me
##unvote
##vote:mocsta


Yep I'm scum.
Onegu.. the guy who couldn't catch scum when he's rolled scum... Has finally caught me
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 26 2013 06:03 GMT
#2062
Onegu.

Why is being a hypocrite scummy?

Nothing of what you write is conclusive towards pushing a scum agenda.

We were semi masoned in GoT. I know you are better than this.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 26 2013 06:04 GMT
#2064
Also. I didn't state jampi was town in my response... You have been caught out not reading several times now.

It's ok. I know from.Hogwarts you don't give up.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 26 2013 06:07 GMT
#2066
Btw onegu

If you are town, and Cora is thus scum... You are going to have to drop the tunnel on me.

I am clearly town.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 26 2013 06:17 GMT
#2069
Wait a sec.

Why did you feel the need to add more?
That directly suggests you are creating a novel.

You sold this case as a post by post analysis, so why break out of this pattern to strengthen a point??
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 26 2013 06:21 GMT
#2070
On November 26 2013 15:16 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2013 15:07 Mocwrote:
Btw onegu

If you are town, and Cora is thus scum... You are going to have to drop the tunnel on me.

I am clearly town.



I domt see it mocsta, you keep saying it but that doesnt make it true. I dont see how it is possible for you to believe your caseon jampi when you defended him for the same reason you attacked him. Also I dont see cora and 2 inactives leading town around by the nose basicly by himself, if he did more power to him, but I just dont see it, also I know it is dumb to do preflip connections but there are really to many to passup. Basicly if there was a vig shot on you or cora last night and you flipped red I would nail the other one with connections on top of scummy play. This is also how I have rean in my scumteam.

1. Co firmed town aqua already agreed with my position on jampi. So get used to that stance flipflop being null.

2. I don't even understand your point regarding Corazon. This reads as an ad hom.

3. Share with me these connection flips

4. So the only way rean is in your scum team is if cora and I were vigged, and on top of that flipped red. Lol.
So are you suggesting a vig has been rb fir two successive nights?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 26 2013 06:36 GMT
#2073
Why is holyflare off this list.

He buses as scum. Why can't he be riding your cases to earn town cred.

Why is his dubious timing if the doc claim ignored.

Why so double standard?

Why are you writing novels?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 26 2013 06:38 GMT
#2075
Connections is all you talk about
Can you outline even one thing about Cora, rean or myself that can only be explained by scum motive??
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 26 2013 06:39 GMT
#2076
On November 26 2013 15:37 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2013 15:17 Mocsta wrote:
Wait a sec.

Why did you feel the need to add more?
That directly suggests you are creating a novel.

You sold this case as a post by post analysis, so why break out of this pattern to strengthen a point??



Im not, all of that I posted makes you scum, this is one of the strongest points though. I believe all of my case points to you being scum. But this point is the nail imo.

Your strongest point is that I called out a scumslip in the first hour of the day?

Is this what you want me to take at face value?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 26 2013 06:44 GMT
#2079
On November 26 2013 15:41 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2013 12:52 Mocsta wrote:
Slam. Come join us bud !!

Fwiw I hope you are here still too!

I am
In OP

Scum can delay kp .. so have 0 kp night1 and shoot twice night2
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 26 2013 06:52 GMT
#2084
On November 26 2013 15:45 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2013 15:36 Mocsta wrote:
Why is holyflare off this list.

He buses as scum. Why can't he be riding your cases to earn town cred.

Why is his dubious timing if the doc claim ignored.

Why so double standard?

Why are you writing novels?



True HF busses, He didnt just ride my cases he has added points, And now we are in mylo I am trying to give the scum team now as I will be lynched today. As I said rean would be the last person I voted, also as I said earlier if we get down to only one scum left and HF the claimed doctor is still alive then he really should be looked at, until there is only one scum left I read town on HF. If there is only one scum left and it is mylo or lylo and they left the claimed doctor alive until only one scum left the I could see him being scum. But only at that point, unless that happens my read goes to rean.

Lol.. that doesn't answer the question at all.

Why do you treat holyflare town for dubious claim timing, and treat Corazon opposite for the same dubious timing.

In your case against me you think I do this to jampi, and this are scummy.

So tables are turned.. why onegu?

Further the above doesn't explain why holy is town, if anything it sounds lime he is town by Poe.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 26 2013 06:54 GMT
#2087
On November 26 2013 15:49 Onegu wrote:
Oh you were talking about you saying scumslips, and then calling out HF for seeing scum slips. Yeah I pointed out everything, and you saying that is being a hypocrite and normally I assoiate that with scum, sure town can do that also but people needed to see you did it.

Need to see.. lol.. for what reason

Filler content?

It's obvious now, and was obvious then it meant nothing
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 26 2013 06:55 GMT
#2088
On November 26 2013 15:53 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2013 15:44 Mocsta wrote:
On November 26 2013 15:41 Alakaslam wrote:
On November 26 2013 12:52 Mocsta wrote:
Slam. Come join us bud !!

Fwiw I hope you are here still too!

I am
In OP

Scum can delay kp .. so have 0 kp night1 and shoot twice night2

Ok. Even more my point then, see if they had 2kp normally this makes actually it still doesn't make sense. If they were blue hunting and wanted to make sure Cora woulda 100% died. Either they weren't here or were thinking doc stuff? But why wouldn't they consolidate the shot either way.

I am wifoming myself here. I begin to think the Thrawn kill was significant though because I'm looking at Chezinu. But that still doesn't make sense because they would kill me. Or maybe they disagree with Cora :s

K what else do we have though. Why is Chezinu scum so quickly to others ?

How much of the thread have you read.. I can't follow where you ate coming from, because I dont know how much u might be missing.
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