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On November 21 2013 01:43 JarJarDrinks wrote:Sorry to repost this again but wanted everyone to know what post we're all talking about since there seems to be some dispute: Show nested quote +On that note, sciberia needs to stop analyzing the first page so hard and just discuss. We're not going to find scum on the first page. You guys just need to talk instead of being at each other's throats 30 minutes into the game. So Cora, who thinks sciberia was making a calculated scum play, decides that correct thing to say about it is to tell him to stop. He then gives the person that he believes is smart scum advice on how to find scum.
This is twisting the facts.
This is the post that *JJD* thinks is corazon caling scibs "bad town"
Afterwards, he does the later post with rocking the boat suggest he is scummy.
Like, as the accuser how can *you* get this incorrect JJD.
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On November 21 2013 01:43 JarJarDrinks wrote:Sorry to repost this again but wanted everyone to know what post we're all talking about since there seems to be some dispute: Show nested quote +On that note, sciberia needs to stop analyzing the first page so hard and just discuss. We're not going to find scum on the first page. You guys just need to talk instead of being at each other's throats 30 minutes into the game. So Cora, who thinks sciberia was making a calculated scum play, decides that correct thing to say about it is to tell him to stop. He then gives the person that he believes is smart scum advice on how to find scum.
I think you are misreading like I did. That post where he gives advice to scib comes before Corazon says what he thinks about scib's alignment. That post is the first time he mentions scib. As mocsta said it does look like something corazon could say to a person he has any read on, if his goal behind saying that is as he states, to get good discussion flowing before starting the hardcore and what he thinks would be useless analysis. It wasn't until his next post about scib that he mentions that scib is either "new" or is "rocking the boat," he knows that scib isn't new therefore he concludes that scib is scummy. Initially I interpreted "rocking the boat" as "starting discussion = townie" but that was an incorrect interpretation. Obviously I might be putting townie words into a scum Corazon's mouth, but I do not think this is the case and I think I'm probably in a better position to clear up this confusion than he is.
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On November 21 2013 01:48 cDgCorazon wrote:
*snip*
If I was Mocsta I would vote you for not reading.
I assume this is because you dont vote in the first 24hrs?
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My mason (thrawn)
Do you get the impression onegu is just trying to shit the thread?
or am i taking this too personal?
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On November 21 2013 01:52 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2013 01:48 cDgCorazon wrote:
*snip*
If I was Mocsta I would vote you for not reading. I assume this is because you dont vote in the first 24hrs?
no it's because your case on me had way too many jabs calling me scummy for not reading
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On November 21 2013 01:51 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2013 01:43 JarJarDrinks wrote:Sorry to repost this again but wanted everyone to know what post we're all talking about since there seems to be some dispute: On that note, sciberia needs to stop analyzing the first page so hard and just discuss. We're not going to find scum on the first page. You guys just need to talk instead of being at each other's throats 30 minutes into the game. So Cora, who thinks sciberia was making a calculated scum play, decides that correct thing to say about it is to tell him to stop. He then gives the person that he believes is smart scum advice on how to find scum. I think you are misreading like I did. That post where he gives advice to scib comes before Corazon says what he thinks about scib's alignment. That post is the first time he mentions scib. As mocsta said it does look like something corazon could say to a person he has any read on, if his goal behind saying that is as he states, to get good discussion flowing before starting the hardcore and what he thinks would be useless analysis. It wasn't until his next post about scib that he mentions that scib is either "new" or is "rocking the boat," he knows that scib isn't new therefore he concludes that scib is scummy. Initially I interpreted "rocking the boat" as "starting discussion = townie" but that was an incorrect interpretation. Obviously I might be putting townie words into a scum Corazon's mouth, but I do not think this is the case and I think I'm probably in a better position to clear up this confusion than he is.
LOl.. so the answer to my question
i.e "the trigger' is got to do with Scibs not being a newbie thus he concludes "rocking the boat" ==> shitting the thread
KK. fuck that took some effort.
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On November 21 2013 01:53 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2013 01:52 Mocsta wrote:On November 21 2013 01:48 cDgCorazon wrote:
*snip*
If I was Mocsta I would vote you for not reading. I assume this is because you dont vote in the first 24hrs? no it's because your case on me had way too many jabs calling me scummy for not reading
And onegu thinks no1 has called me a douche yet lol.
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On November 21 2013 01:52 Mocsta wrote:
My mason (thrawn)
Do you get the impression onegu is just trying to shit the thread?
or am i taking this too personal?
I am a bit stymied by his posts and reads but I haven't come to a conclusion so I'd rather not give my thoughts just yet. I will however say that I hope he isn't town because if he is then I foresee things getting ugly. That should be enough to let you know what I'm thinking about your question... "am i taking this too personal?"
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On November 21 2013 01:56 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2013 01:53 cDgCorazon wrote:On November 21 2013 01:52 Mocsta wrote:On November 21 2013 01:48 cDgCorazon wrote:
*snip*
If I was Mocsta I would vote you for not reading. I assume this is because you dont vote in the first 24hrs? no it's because your case on me had way too many jabs calling me scummy for not reading And onegu thinks no1 has called me a douche yet lol.
No Moc, you're not a douche. Your case is a douche <3
But now that everyone has cleared up the misunderstandings, any comments about my Aqua case? Or did I just repeat Thrawn too much?
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EBWOP: I'm going to class, I'll be back in a few hours.
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On November 21 2013 01:48 cDgCorazon wrote:
Perhaps I could have come to that conclusion in-between my first post and the "rocking the boat" post.
Well this is what I'm trying to find out. Did you not have a scum read in the first post but did in the 2nd? If so, what changed yoiur mind?
On November 21 2013 01:51 Mocsta wrote:
This is the post that *JJD* thinks is corazon caling scibs "bad town"
Afterwards, he does the later post with rocking the boat suggest he is scummy.
Like, as the accuser how can *you* get this incorrect JJD. My point is that I DON'T think he was saying sci was scummy in that first post. I think he was implying that he was town.
I'm not really asking why he would make that first post if he believes sci is scum. I'm asking what changed his mind in between. ANd judging by cora's response above, it looks like I interpreted both posts corectly.
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[QUOTE]On November 21 2013 02:00 JarJarDrinks wrote:
[QUOTE]On November 21 2013 01:48 cDgCorazon wrote:
Perhaps I could have come to that conclusion in-between my first post and the "rocking the boat" post.[/QUOTE]
Well this is what I'm trying to find out. Did you not have a scum read in the first post but did in the 2nd? If so, what changed yoiur mind?
/QUOTE]
Yes because I am going to have a scum read on sciberia after 1 page of mostly joke posting...
JJD why are you grasping at straws? To me, it looks like you want to make a case on me but the focal point is "Cora changed his read on sci for no reason" and you are trying to fish favorable answers out of me because you know you can't twist my words any more than you are currently.
Off to school. For realsies.
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EBWOP:
On November 21 2013 02:00 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2013 01:48 cDgCorazon wrote:
Perhaps I could have come to that conclusion in-between my first post and the "rocking the boat" post. Well this is what I'm trying to find out. Did you not have a scum read in the first post but did in the 2nd? If so, what changed yoiur mind?
Yes because I am going to have a scum read on sciberia after 1 page of mostly joke posting...
JJD why are you grasping at straws? To me, it looks like you want to make a case on me but the focal point is "Cora changed his read on sci for no reason" and you are trying to fish favorable answers out of me because you know you can't twist my words any more than you are currently.
Off to school. For realsies.
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raynpelikoneet replaces Vonthin
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On November 21 2013 02:00 JarJarDrinks wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On November 21 2013 01:48 cDgCorazon wrote:
Perhaps I could have come to that conclusion in-between my first post and the "rocking the boat" post. Well this is what I'm trying to find out. Did you not have a scum read in the first post but did in the 2nd? If so, what changed yoiur mind? On November 21 2013 01:51 Mocsta wrote:
This is the post that *JJD* thinks is corazon caling scibs "bad town"
Afterwards, he does the later post with rocking the boat suggest he is scummy.
Like, as the accuser how can *you* get this incorrect JJD. My point is that I DON'T think he was saying sci was scummy in that first post. I think he was implying that he was town. I'm not really asking why he would make that first post if he believes sci is scum. I'm asking what changed his mind in between. ANd judging by cora's response above, it looks like I interpreted both posts corectly.
GGRRR.. I don't really want to continue you as I am 100% confident this is painful to read for all observers.
Drop it, you are miscontruing evidence and its beyond tunneling now.
What you originally stated JJD
"So Cora, who thinks sciberia was making a calculated scum play, decides that correct thing to say about it is to tell him to stop." -
That post that you are referring to in red, is where you state he is calling him bad town; not calculated scum play.
Hence why I called you out for twisting the facts.
Even post-hoc you can't see this. Fuck me.. please just drop it (and the answers are on this page - 15)
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Rayn
You just played with me as scum.
Please tell Onegu he is stupid, otherwise I vote you !!! muahahahah
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Hello rayn. So far everyone here for the most part seems to be making real efforts to consolidate their posting and keep their emotions out of their thought process. It's been very enjoyable so I'd ask that you do the same.
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On November 21 2013 02:03 cDgCorazon wrote:
Yes because I am going to have a scum read on sciberia after 1 page of mostly joke posting... But that was the post you were analysing when making your "Rock the Boat" read. So if that one page of joke posting didn't give you a scum read, then what did?
Sorry Moc but I think these are legit questions.
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I've been following the game.
##Vote: Rean
I liked JJD's case. I'd like to add that at the start of the game Rean says he will not tolerate one-liners, spam, etc etc. Then he proceeds in giving half-arsed answers like "Moscta says this then that".
Mocsta seems quite town, he's driving the discussion and promoting good atmosphere. I like it. I also liked his questions to Aquanim at the start of the game. To me it looked like Aquanim was just asking some random questions from Mocsta and trying to burn his "post-limit" for nothing. I don't like Aquanim.
Nothing much to say about others, slightly leaning town on thrawn for same reasons as Mocsta. There was one post that bothered me about Corazon, it was the post where he talked about "how we should play". I felt like it didn't really say much and it felt somewhat forced to me.
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On November 21 2013 02:13 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2013 02:03 cDgCorazon wrote:
Yes because I am going to have a scum read on sciberia after 1 page of mostly joke posting... But that was the post you were analysing when making your "Rock the Boat" read. So if that one page of joke posting didn't give you a scum read, then what did? Sorry Moc but I think these are legit questions.
*Sigh* its OK, you are entitled to keep probing.
Its up to me to discern whether you are a conflicted townie doing your job, or scum trying to shit the thread away from Aquanim. (Hopefully now you can understand my point of view with telling you to drop it).
I get where you are coming from
From a post Scib makes stating Cora is most likely scum from page 1
Cora infers (in your opinion): Bad Town
A couple posts later, off the same post he comes to the conclusion: scummy
His trigger - scibs is not a newbie, thus, the discredit is *intentional*
In my opinion: I disagreed with the interpretation of calling scibs bad town.
Cora has answered this question for you a few times now as well, where he was just giving a "call out"
I know you have your interpretation, but this is going no where. Corazon is not going to admit he inferred bad town, whether its true (unlikely) or not (very likely).
Considering that was teh whole basis of your case on Corazon, its been rebutted. Please move on. and reconfirm position on Aquanim.
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