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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 24 2013 15:26 GMT
#1545
On November 22 2013 22:23 JarJarDrinks wrote:
K, not gonna apologize about the flip. I'm sure I'll have plenty say to Rayn post-game. Escpecially if Rean really is scum (which I still think).

Gonna reread Onegu but I haven't thought he was scum @ all this game so I doubt that's gonna change. Not crazy about Holyflare so gonna look close @ him.

Also gonna look into Rayns other scumreads though I don't know how much stock I can put into them because of how wrong he was about me. But I don't feel like he could really go 0 for 3 in his reads so if I had to choose 1 scum between Moc and Bereft, right now I'm gonna say it's Moc. But this is before my reread.

I don't mind jjd interactions with rayn once he was a candidate.

they read as genuinely hard pressed that rayn hard divertedbthe dean lynch.

that makes me lean town on jjd regardless of his presence 2hrs from lynch,


I find it odd that jdd throws out the second part suggesting rayn must have had at least 1 read right. I don't get the motive for this.


as an aside, jjd filter reminded me of jampidampi not wanting to vote rayn stating he did this in nuclear Mafia.
this is quite a composed stance yto take, akin to deciding that corazin was early tuenneled prior.

I'm actually not wanting to lynch jjd based on his consistency, I'm really feeling a chezinu lynch.

either away. I'm going to bed, and will be around 4 hrs from lynch.

cpi know I posted butt loads and it wasn't t ideal,
but can you please all look into jampidampi?

p?s? onrgu, I'm still waiting for that case,
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 24 2013 15:28 GMT
#1546
On November 25 2013 00:16 Bereft wrote:
i can understand that, but how does that go from BEST LYNCH CANDIDATE, to at least your 5th or lower lynch choice?

I think I said at that point in time.

that meant literally for me at that snap shot I liked him the most. its more a sighn of my uncertainty than anything else.

my uncertainty is from lack of time to mature thoughts.. and lack of thread development by others to progress my thoughts..hence back at square one
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 24 2013 15:33 GMT
#1547
uugghhhh

reading jjd night 1 hes back to null

I don't get the direction hes heading in to scum hunt.

will think this over sleep.

sorry again for in flux of posts. I know its annoying
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 25 2013 00:04 GMT
#1661
Guys,

Im in deep shit at work today and this will probably be my second last post.



(1)
I read through Onegu case, its pretty bad.
He goes through all my actions but its clear he has already determined to call everything scum; further, a lot of the time he says I have zero justifcation -- when the justification is within a few posts up.

All up, I actually think Onegu is town.

Simply due to the effort; that case is a monster of effort.
I agree the case is bad but I don't think its bad in an intentionally miscontrued type of way.
The simplest explanation is confirmation bias on a townie.
I truly do not expect scum to go to *that* much effort to make such a simple case (i.e post-by-post analysis).



(2)
Though Holyflare is a bad choice of lynch for today as he is self-confirming.

It really agitates me that he chooses to live vicariously through others.

He did not cast a vote on me until others did it; for someone that is so time poor, I can't understand why he is even posting.



(3)
It is possible we need to ##no-lynch today.

I think the best lynch candidates are between

JJD / Holyflare / Rean / jampidampi

Holy is not lynchable
Jampi has such a low filter he feels like a lottery
Rean has been absent for so long also feels some-what like a lottery
JJD may be the most townie of the bunch.

It might be best to no-lynch and hope that Holy is doctor and gets a save mitigating the damage; otherwise I have really low confidence levels for this lynch.



I'm sorry i can't be of more help.

For those concerned about my vote switches, Corazon in paticular - you should know better.

As scum, I hold onto reads and push them continuously as jusitifed contributions.
e.g. personality 2 (my tunnel on you)
or even our newbies (my tunnel on warbaby).

As town, everyone knows I flip-flop continuously as new information is presented.
again Corazon you know this from our newbies.

Unfortunately, I tend to flip-flop more as people stop posting. Low activity makes me suspicious of anyone in general -- mainly because I make an effort to post regardless of how busy I am, so I expect others to do the same.



Lastly, I will check in maybe 30min to 60min before the lynch.
And consolidate my vote with my top town reads (Aqua, Thrawn, Corazon, Bereft).

I won't be responding to anything between now and then.

If a no-lynch is not on the cards; my preference is to lynch jampidampi's spot.

I find it concerning he had the thread awareness to identify Corazon as emotionally tunneled & rayns play as matching Nuclear Mafia. Two town reads to give that are easy with scum knowledge, and difficult to make as an uncertain townie.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 25 2013 00:05 GMT
#1662
##Unvote
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 25 2013 00:52 GMT
#1709
Quick breather.

Note both scibs and I thought onegu was scum
And both scibs and I think onegu is genuine about wanting to lynch me, thus think he is town

Regarding jarjar
Last night I didn't read his day2

Does anyone know what his top scum reads are and why?
Has he actually pushed anything, or has just gotten into dialogue with holyflare about claiming?

If the above is no and yes, that will indicate he has no care for this lynch and is a good candidate for consolidation
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 25 2013 00:53 GMT
#1710
On Novem 09:45 Holyflare wrote:
7

???

I played with you in hogwarts as town
Mafia lxii as scum
And this game

I think I hosted/coaches a game you played in too
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 25 2013 01:19 GMT
#1732
Sciberbia
Sigh berberia
Sigh

Cy
Cy berbia
Cy Borg


Omg.. chez and scuba are the same alignment... Lynch lynch lynch
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 25 2013 01:20 GMT
#1733
On November 25 2013 10:19 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2013 10:17 sciberbia wrote:
@Holyflare
Please stop dicking around with Chezinu and tell us who you want us to lynch today. In case you haven't noticed everyone else is debating between JJD and Onegu. Care to weigh in?


mocsta

Why did you replace in if you are going to play like this.

This is a back to basics game.. seriously man.

Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 25 2013 01:34 GMT
#1743
Ok

Can anyone please look at the questions I proposed like one or two posts ago about jjd

I actually don't have enough time to filter dive so can't verify.


If those answers are no and yes, I will support a consolidated vote on JJD
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 25 2013 01:40 GMT
#1751
Thanks guys for the feedback.
I feel as frantic with the rayyn lynch.

Whereas two cycles in a row he diesnt care.

Why is it that it's all the same people talking at this pivotal time.

I'm confident we are all town, and scum are letting us in fight with each other.

Yes, wagon of justice.

##vote: jarjardrinks

Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 25 2013 01:47 GMT
#1763
Onegu I read it and commented

It's a bad case and misses things I know that exist in my filter.

I do t thinkthe cherry picking was malicious. I actually believe you think I am scum.

You are as bad a lynch today as me.


Jjd even now shows no care. Just promises of activity. Does he truly read to you as town fighting for his life??
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 25 2013 01:49 GMT
#1765
Hmmm. On the other hand. Jjd could have a strong read on rean. That without more posts from rean there wasn't much more to discuss..

What is more viable. A jjd lynch or no lynch??

I'm scared cos of slams vote.. it's really opportune as if he was waiting for a window
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 25 2013 01:51 GMT
#1767
On November 25 2013 10:48 thrawn2112 wrote:
the only thing that bothers me about mocsta is his town read on onegu..

The only reason I thinks scum onejgu would make that massive case is if he took offense to me calling him useless as scum to skate by.

Yes, that's possible... But the posting style was consistent with efforts before I made that comment.

I'm inclined to think he is genuine about thinking I am.scum, so has to be town.

He's not my best town read, it enough to. It be a target today in my opinion.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 25 2013 01:53 GMT
#1769
On November 25 2013 10:46 Alakaslam wrote:
Well I am going to have to leave, I do hope to be more useful tomorrow. Please don't make me lose it!... I don't mind criticism however will not see till tomorrow.

##Vote: Jar Jar Drinks

I don't like this vote at all
Thoughts??
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 25 2013 02:04 GMT
#1777
On November 25 2013 10:54 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2013 10:53 Mocsta wrote:
On November 25 2013 10:46 Alakaslam wrote:
Well I am going to have to leave, I do hope to be more useful tomorrow. Please don't make me lose it!... I don't mind criticism however will not see till tomorrow.

##Vote: Jar Jar Drinks

I don't like this vote at all
Thoughts??


You go first

I can't remember what slot he is
I don't like it cos of the convenience of the timing

I suppose if he had to go it's not too bad to consolidate. Too much uncertainty, is null.

Lets stick with jjd
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 25 2013 02:06 GMT
#1779
I get jjd vote not on himself.

Chez. Why are you voting onegu again?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 25 2013 02:13 GMT
#1784
If rean is scum. What do you expect the movement to mean?

This isbprob a good contribution if you flip town.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 25 2013 02:24 GMT
#1789
Onegu. I only have limited time and I don't think retorting post for post will change your read
Perhaps your issue is that you expect a case to precede a vote. I don't work that way, and neither do a lot of other players. By case i mean a full blown analysis.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 25 2013 02:25 GMT
#1790
On November 25 2013 11:13 Mocsta wrote:
If rean is scum. What do you expect the movement to mean?

This isbprob a good contribution if you flip town.

For you jjd
30min till lynch. Please have a go at this one.
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