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thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
December 03 2013 06:44 GMT
#2802
On December 03 2013 15:41 cDgCorazon wrote:
And tbh I'm getting way too much blame for the town's loss. Stop calling mafia a team game and then solely blaming Rayn and I for "messing up the town atmosphere".


iirc most people have been pretty forthcoming regarding their own shortcomings

"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
December 03 2013 07:49 GMT
#2824
On November 21 2013 17:46 thrawn2112 wrote:
lazy reads 2.0

scum

rean lonemeow and rayn or scib


damn I wish i would have explained my lazy reads because right now I can't remember what i was thinking when I wrote this post....maybe my personal secret to being good at mafia is to get high, use gut reads, and never put thought into anything? (jk obviously.. or not? this is what I'm asking)

Does anyone have any serious concerns with my play? ....other than how I handled rayn, I think I know exactly why I got that wrong (although I'm a bit surprised that we haven;t had an argument about policy lynching yet)

was I being too nice this game?

basically what I'm asking is this... should I go back to standard thrawn obvious spammy townie, or more what I did here?

weirdly enough... I think my play in this game resembles my play in my first newbie more than my play in any other game, and i had slightly better reads this game than I normally do which leads me to the conclusion that I've been dreading for a few months now, that my play is actually getting worse over time. i hope (hope, because if true, I know how to fix) that my problem is that I have decent gut (lazy) reads, but the more thought I put into a read, the more convoluted my thought process becomes and I end up over-thinking everything to the point where even I don't know what my reads are. see the later stages of desert mafia for examples.

tldr: 2 questions:

1 looking for criticism outside of how I handeled rayn
2 looking for advice, asking if I'm correct in my secret fear that I'm getting worse over time and I need to reinvent my play
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
December 03 2013 08:01 GMT
#2830
On December 03 2013 16:54 yamato77 wrote:
thrawn - obviously town, a little backseat for my tastes.

You have good reads in general, and know how to play town, you just don't have that leader-y quality that top tier townies do.


yeah that last bit resonates but in the opposite way that you intend it to

I think the problem is that I post so_damn_much that I almost confirm myself as town and then people start looking to the obvious townie to give them answers. That's not I responsibility I've earned and it definitely isn't one I want.

It looks like you're saying I should improve my leader-y qualities... but I actually disagree. Read the first 2 days of desert mafia if you want to know what happens when I become town leader. I'm too indecisive for that position. In the future I think I am going to go for more of a backseat role. My normal spammy play is so townie, just soooo townie, and I think I can suffer it being a little less townie if it means I get to hide my cards and nurture my suspicions a bit longer.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
December 03 2013 15:16 GMT
#2879
On December 04 2013 00:11 Mocsta wrote:
Seeing that last post of Onegu again.

I would love to know in general why all the town thought it was scummy to have a post restriction and then remove it.

Lol.. like its null .. but if you really wanted to stretch the alignment-boundaries, its definitely townier to remove it.
Scum should be happy to use it as a fallback to lurking.


that was one of the reasons I decided you were town... or at least why i didn't think you were scum. early on, I thought that "if mocsta keeps to his post restriction and it causes him to be unproductive at a critical time for town, then he's scum"

"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
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