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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
November 17 2013 21:14 GMT
#2482
Koshi, you mentioned Storrzerg a few times as scum and have not given any reasoning for your scum read.
On November 17 2013 00:59 Koshi wrote:
I could see Storrzerg being scum. I was not impressed when we talked earlier. But rayn lynch is better.

On November 17 2013 01:46 Koshi wrote:
##unvote
##vote: Koshi


I don't support your reads.

Skanj4b: nha
Pandain: nha just isn't playing
hiro protagonist: Did nothing at all so nha.
Grack: Disappeared. also nha. Not today.
Oatsmaster: where is the case? Why?

What is it that differentiates Storrzerg from other lurkers?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
November 17 2013 21:34 GMT
#2490
On November 18 2013 06:29 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 06:14 Grackaroni wrote:
Koshi, you mentioned Storrzerg a few times as scum and have not given any reasoning for your scum read.
On November 17 2013 00:59 Koshi wrote:
I could see Storrzerg being scum. I was not impressed when we talked earlier. But rayn lynch is better.

On November 17 2013 01:46 Koshi wrote:
##unvote
##vote: Koshi


I don't support your reads.

Skanj4b: nha
Pandain: nha just isn't playing
hiro protagonist: Did nothing at all so nha.
Grack: Disappeared. also nha. Not today.
Oatsmaster: where is the case? Why?

What is it that differentiates Storrzerg from other lurkers?

His first scumread was Mattchew but when I pressured him about he he didn't know what to say.

Nothing else in his filter? that exchange looks absolutely fine to me.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
November 17 2013 21:43 GMT
#2491
On November 16 2013 00:26 Koshi wrote:
I have no problem with BloodyC0bbler. He will come back with a bang, his opening post demands it.

On November 16 2013 01:55 Koshi wrote:
Told you guys he would come back with a bang.

@BC
StorrZerg - Not enough content, don't understand why so many people are disappointed with him, because that is the main reason on why he is scum? Wasn't that incredible awesome in Hogwarts.
Grackeroni - Can lynch. Don't know if he would flip red. Truly useless. Don't know if he plays this game to find scum.

@rayn
Holyflare - I liked Holyflare his posts in Hogwarts on D1, don't like them now. Could be because he doesn't know the answers this game. Don't see why he is scummy.

Talk to me about this post. From the first line I get the impression that you liked BC's Grack/Storrzerg scum post, yet you don't seem to agree with any of the reasoning he throws out for either me or Storrzerg being scum.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
November 17 2013 21:58 GMT
#2495
Rayn what are your town tells for Koshi. I see nothing townie in Koshi's filter.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
November 17 2013 22:00 GMT
#2500
On November 18 2013 06:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 06:58 Grackaroni wrote:
Rayn what are your town tells for Koshi. I see nothing townie in Koshi's filter.

Oh and NOW you bring it up?
He's happy as town and uses phrases that i find funny. Really, that's how i read Koshi.
In this game he is sad and serious.

I've clearly just been digging through his filter lol. You just posted recently.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
November 17 2013 22:13 GMT
#2511
On November 18 2013 07:06 Koshi wrote:
rofl I am not sad.
Maybe serious.

Also Grack:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 06:43 Grackaroni wrote:
On November 16 2013 00:26 Koshi wrote:
I have no problem with BloodyC0bbler. He will come back with a bang, his opening post demands it.

On November 16 2013 01:55 Koshi wrote:
Told you guys he would come back with a bang.

@BC
StorrZerg - Not enough content, don't understand why so many people are disappointed with him, because that is the main reason on why he is scum? Wasn't that incredible awesome in Hogwarts.
Grackeroni - Can lynch. Don't know if he would flip red. Truly useless. Don't know if he plays this game to find scum.

@rayn
Holyflare - I liked Holyflare his posts in Hogwarts on D1, don't like them now. Could be because he doesn't know the answers this game. Don't see why he is scummy.

Talk to me about this post. From the first line I get the impression that you liked BC's Grack/Storrzerg scum post, yet you don't seem to agree with any of the reasoning he throws out for either me or Storrzerg being scum.

Pretty sure that BC his post came between those 2.

I know it came between those posts lol. From the first line you seemed impressed by BC's post, which makes no sense if you disagree with all of his reasoning in it for me and Storrzerg being scum.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
November 17 2013 22:14 GMT
#2512
On November 18 2013 07:13 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 07:06 Koshi wrote:
rofl I am not sad.
Maybe serious.

Also Grack:
On November 18 2013 06:43 Grackaroni wrote:
On November 16 2013 00:26 Koshi wrote:
I have no problem with BloodyC0bbler. He will come back with a bang, his opening post demands it.

On November 16 2013 01:55 Koshi wrote:
Told you guys he would come back with a bang.

@BC
StorrZerg - Not enough content, don't understand why so many people are disappointed with him, because that is the main reason on why he is scum? Wasn't that incredible awesome in Hogwarts.
Grackeroni - Can lynch. Don't know if he would flip red. Truly useless. Don't know if he plays this game to find scum.

@rayn
Holyflare - I liked Holyflare his posts in Hogwarts on D1, don't like them now. Could be because he doesn't know the answers this game. Don't see why he is scummy.

Talk to me about this post. From the first line I get the impression that you liked BC's Grack/Storrzerg scum post, yet you don't seem to agree with any of the reasoning he throws out for either me or Storrzerg being scum.

Pretty sure that BC his post came between those 2.

I know it came between those posts lol. From the first line you seemed impressed by BC's post, which makes no sense if you disagree with all of his reasoning in it for me and Storrzerg being scum.

I am referring to the first line in your 2nd post.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
November 17 2013 23:31 GMT
#2599
Tomorrow we lynch Koshi

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 15 2013 23:43 Koshi wrote:
supersoft
Do you really want to be Mayor? Your first post:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 08:59 supersoft wrote:
okay okay okay, i think we need to elect me for mayor. Otherwise it's yet another game where i pass away n1.


Your second post is you trying to stir up Yamato/VE who were at that point the most active posters in the thread that also wanted to be Mayor. The same second that you posted this you should have known that they would be mad. Why did you post this?
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 09:05 supersoft wrote:
Btw.: Everyone who votes anyone else than mig, BC or myself is playing antitown.
I don't even consider giving my vote anyone else.

Oats said that you search for confrontation and are able to read people after that? But to me this looks like plain old shitting up the thread for no reason at all.
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 09:17 supersoft wrote:
lol VE and yamato are pissed, because they're not considered to be serious candidates... No surpise. And not exactly protown.

Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 09:19 supersoft wrote:
On November 15 2013 09:18 yamato77 wrote:
On November 15 2013 09:17 supersoft wrote:
lol VE and yamato are pissed, because they're not considered to be serious candidates... No surpise. And not exactly protown.

On November 15 2013 09:01 yamato77 wrote:
electing someone so they don't get shot is not my idea of how D1 should play out


That is exactly how we should play. And your ideas are exactly the reason, why you're no serious candidate.
Who guarantees me that you not just fold and leave the game after d1 if we elect you?
Seriously yamato...

Yeah, super's mafia.


oh god, you're reatarded.

Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 09:21 supersoft wrote:
On November 15 2013 09:19 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 15 2013 09:17 supersoft wrote:
lol VE and yamato are pissed, because they're not considered to be serious candidates... No surpise. And not exactly protown.

On November 15 2013 09:01 yamato77 wrote:
electing someone so they don't get shot is not my idea of how D1 should play out


That is exactly how we should play. And your ideas are exactly the reason, why you're no serious candidate.
Who guarantees me that you not just fold and leave the game after d1 if we elect you?
Seriously yamato...

This is false. Please address the post where I explain what my reasoning for not liking your statement actually is.


On November 15 2013 09:07 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 15 2013 09:05 supersoft wrote:
Btw.: Everyone who votes anyone else than mig, BC or myself is playing antitown.
I don't even consider giving my vote anyone else.

Fuck this. This is garbage.


You mean this peace of wisdom???

Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 09:24 supersoft wrote:
On November 15 2013 09:22 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 15 2013 09:21 yamato77 wrote:
On November 15 2013 09:19 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 15 2013 09:18 yamato77 wrote:
On November 15 2013 09:17 supersoft wrote:
lol VE and yamato are pissed, because they're not considered to be serious candidates... No surpise. And not exactly protown.

On November 15 2013 09:01 yamato77 wrote:
electing someone so they don't get shot is not my idea of how D1 should play out


That is exactly how we should play. And your ideas are exactly the reason, why you're no serious candidate.
Who guarantees me that you not just fold and leave the game after d1 if we elect you?
Seriously yamato...

Yeah, super's mafia.

Not so fast super-friend. super is an arrogant ass regardless of alignment. We must continue to observe. Patiently.

super's not this bad as town, is he?

super does stuff like say controversial stuff to see how people react. Is it bad? Who's to say? I'm willing to write him off as arrogant and observe others. What do you think of Oats and his blatant lies? Typical non-reading-shittalking? Or something slightly more sinister?


Write me off and "observe others"
you're pretty dodgy.

...

You enter the thread claiming that you need to be elected. But instead of gathering support you are shitting up the thread and annoying the living shit out of VE and Yamato. Why? If you want to be elected, wouldn't it be better to play nice with these 2?

Btw, what is your read on VE and Yamato atm?


I don't like this first attack at all. Koshi implies that SS is scum for shitting up the thread and insulting other players but this is just standard SS play. I don't think even Koshi understands why he is calling SS scum. He decides that SS is not really trying to get elected, and that he is scum because of that, but there is probably more motivation for scum players to want to appear pro-town early and become mayor.


On November 16 2013 01:55 Koshi wrote:
Told you guys he would come back with a bang.

@BC
StorrZerg - Not enough content, don't understand why so many people are disappointed with him, because that is the main reason on why he is scum? Wasn't that incredible awesome in Hogwarts.
Grackeroni - Can lynch. Don't know if he would flip red. Truly useless. Don't know if he plays this game to find scum.

@rayn
Holyflare - I liked Holyflare his posts in Hogwarts on D1, don't like them now. Could be because he doesn't know the answers this game. Don't see why he is scummy.

This contradiction is a big deal to me. The first line should imply that he is in favor of BC's post, yet he ends up disagreeing with all of his points. It's inconsistent and I think he is just making up his reads out of thin air.

On November 16 2013 04:52 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 04:43 supersoft wrote:
On November 16 2013 04:26 Koshi wrote:
On November 16 2013 03:47 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I don't have a single scumread of the following players and would like to hear from them their answer to two very simple questions:
1. Who is scum?
2. Why?
The following players are: Mattchew, Koshi (!!, already has 3 pages of filter), Storrzerg, Skanjab1s, hiro protagonist, Hopeless1der, Stutters695, Spaghetticus, VayneAuthority, Mr. Cheesecake, and BlazingHand.
Some of these haven't posted yet but I want them to tell me as soon as they've caught up.

From the vets/actives I am not a supersoft fan. I said why.
I am still waiting on follow ups/more posts from others.


So you're no fan or do you think I am scum?

I just find it odd that you were such a friendly fellow in Hogwarts who was more in the background helping around. It was only after you died N1 that I found out that you were a vet. This game you entered the thread elbows forward and smacked down VE/Yamato and started the early shitfest between you people.

Don't know if it is scummy. But it isn't ideal at all.

I mentioned this earlier, I don't like the phrasing in this post. He seems afraid to outright accuse Supersoft, but he still wants to cast suspicion on to him.

On November 16 2013 05:01 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 04:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 16 2013 04:53 Koshi wrote:
Also, I have it always a bit harder in the start of a game. Especially big games.

lol in Aperture you were like confirmed town at this point of the game.

Yeah and in Noir I didn't do jack shit till the end of Day 1 and start yelling you were scum. Well, I did make a case on Mocsta about stuff. Aperture I wasn't too awful in early game. I give you townpoints for thinking about a game in which you were town.


On November 16 2013 05:06 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 05:03 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On November 16 2013 04:35 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On November 16 2013 04:32 Koshi wrote:
If I have to name a second name out of the actives it would be rayn. Like if you really really force me to name 1 more. Don't think I will be against his lynch today.

I'm glad you named someone without me really really forcing you to. I'd like to know why too though.


ctrl + f "Koshi" in rayn his filter.
I get mentioned too many times but he doesn't interact with me at all. Except for the "Koshi why do you play so weird".

Also, I am not impressed by rayn at all. His case on Holyflare is bad and he is not convincing anybody that Holyflare is scum.

Once again I think Koshi is playing scared. Earlier he said that he might be ok with lynching Rayn, and then as soon as Rayn accused him, he started giving him townie points for absolutely no reason. He also rushes in to Rayn's filter and searches his own name and tries to use that as a point against Rayn.

After that exchange insists several times that Rayn has to be scum for having a weak case, which isn't terrible reasoning. I don't like how much he uses the fact the people aren't listening to him to point towards him being scum. That is terrible reasoning.
+ Show Spoiler +
On November 17 2013 00:39 Koshi wrote:
Rayn

Let's start with the 6 names rayn just gave us as his scumreads.

Holyflare : rayn made a case on Holyflare nobody understands or nobody supported. But for some reason rayn believed that people supported his case when he was discussing with me earlier. This so so strange because rayn hates it when people don't listen and follow his cases. rayn is scum and doesn't give 2 shits about his case.

Koshi : Started with townread on me, gave me scumread after I made a case on ss and dropped it. However, rayn doesn't know that he is giving me a scumread for that himself it seems as I asked him about why I am scum earlier and he couldn't reply. It is very strange for rayn to not let the thread know why somebody is scum. Especially when he would think and be able to prove I am scum because he can point out why I am scum pretty easily.
(PS: I am not playing afraid, hesitant or restricted this game. Does somebody believe that? Maybe you should ask proof from rayn) (PSII: rayn saying I am scum while I am town makes me bitter)

Sharrant: rayn has had a scumread on Sharrant since Sharrant made the conclusion rayn is scum while it should have been town. Pretty sure that is the same reason why rayn thinks Holyflare is scum. It's just weak, and silly. But could come from town rayn this one. But it's just silly that nobody knows why Sharrant is a scumread from rayn unless you read that 1 post about him.

supersoft: For the same reason I think supersoft is scum (disruptive townplay). So yay for us. I still got a scumread after I made my case on ss though.

Pandain/Grack: Both these names shouldn't be on rayn his list. rayn is confident in reading Pandain so he should be sitting on null till Pandain posts. Grack is scum because he is useless? town rayn ignores useless people if he has 4 scumreads in which he strongly believes.
_________

What I want to point out to everybody that scum rayn is still a very active player, it will always look like he is figuring out the game, scum rayn does this because he needs to come in and be able to take control when it is needed. So while it looks like he is atm playing the game and figuring out alignments I want to show you that he isn't.
The people that played with a town rayn before know that when rayn is figuring somebody out and starts to have a very strong scumread on this player he makes sure everybody in the thread knows about this. He will repeat constantly why somebody is scum and will try to convince people that he is right in every way possible. therefore, it is really important that you guys note down that rayn hasn't tried to convince any of the possible Mayors why he is town and or push his reads upon them. The 1 towngame rayn played like this would be Aperture but I do not believe this is a repeat of that.


Lynch rayn. I am certain that he is the best bet for scum.


When he writes a case on Rayn his reasoning falls short.
-Who cares if people ignore his case. That doesn't make him scum. I also don't see him not caring that people disagree with his case.
-He says I am afraid. lol you are afraid.
-He thinks Sharrant is scum. But he could do this as town.
-He has the same SS read as me.
-He says he is good at reading Pandain and that Pandain is scum. he should wait longer. (?)
-Town Rayn ignores useless players - (I don't know if this is true and I don't actually remember Rayn spending too much time pushing me.)
On November 18 2013 04:01 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 03:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 18 2013 03:55 Koshi wrote:
On November 18 2013 03:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So Koshi apparently is not interested in playing this game. Wonder what taht means.

Am I scum again?

Well i don't know why are you posting here now if you are notinterested in telling people who is scum and why and you are not interested in discussing anything. Idk, should i think you are town for it?

Scummers are
Yamato, VA, Storrzerg and yourself.
The other 2 are within lurkers.


Town Koshi is try hard. Koshi's filter this game is completely devoid of reasoning; he makes up scum reads as he goes along through the thread. He's given no reasoning why VA is scum. He's given no reasoning why Storrzerg is scum. He's given no reasoning why Yamato is scum. He's mentioned all of these people being scum several times throughout his filter before.
Koshi isn't town.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
November 17 2013 23:34 GMT
#2604
On November 18 2013 08:32 Koshi wrote:
Grack you are wrong.

Ok. Explain your scum reads.

Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
November 17 2013 23:36 GMT
#2606
On November 18 2013 08:35 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 08:34 Grackaroni wrote:
On November 18 2013 08:32 Koshi wrote:
Grack you are wrong.

Ok. Explain your scum reads.


You. Explain your bull.

lol. there is absolutely no better case in this thread than mine.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
November 18 2013 00:05 GMT
#2654
You guys are all fools lol. I write out reasons for Koshi being scum and then you all just continue complaining about trolling and keep discussing a role claim from yesterday. If BH is scum he will show it in his posts. Frankly I liked his breadcrumb yesterday.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
November 18 2013 00:08 GMT
#2663
On November 18 2013 09:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 09:05 Grackaroni wrote:
You guys are all fools lol. I write out reasons for Koshi being scum and then you all just continue complaining about trolling and keep discussing a role claim from yesterday. If BH is scum he will show it in his posts. Frankly I liked his breadcrumb yesterday.

Yes Koshi did all of those things but until he explains why he thinks i am scum i can't know if he is scum or not because that's all he has done this game, called me scum.

He did explain why you were scum and he had shitty reasons.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
November 18 2013 00:16 GMT
#2669
On November 18 2013 09:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 09:11 Pandain wrote:
Even ignoring the fake-claim he's scummy.

Comes in halfway through, does typical RNG shit, runs for mayor, that's it.

Then has a scum read on Grack. ok

Well that's better than you have done so far. You call some random people scum for random reasons.
I have no idea who your scumreads are besides BH.
And his case on Grack is better than yours against him.

lol I actually agree with this.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
November 18 2013 00:19 GMT
#2672
On November 18 2013 09:18 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 09:04 OOHCHILD wrote:
pretty useless list with zero research behind it...
poe scummers
BloodyC0bbler
Mattchew
Coagulation
Hopeless1der
Stutters695
Mr. Cheesecake
LoneMeow
Alakaslam

Kush been spending time in a QT. Was it mason or another?

I OMGUS freely.

Quit trolling.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
November 18 2013 00:24 GMT
#2679
On November 18 2013 09:22 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 09:19 Grackaroni wrote:
On November 18 2013 09:18 Alakaslam wrote:
On November 18 2013 09:04 OOHCHILD wrote:
pretty useless list with zero research behind it...
poe scummers
BloodyC0bbler
Mattchew
Coagulation
Hopeless1der
Stutters695
Mr. Cheesecake
LoneMeow
Alakaslam

Kush been spending time in a QT. Was it mason or another?

I OMGUS freely.

Quit trolling.

Nay, I am serious. Kush is being nuts how could you have been pushing his mayor? Y u troll?

To be fair I troll because the juices begin to flo- I mean, well for reasons.

I will explain any speifix trollz you ask me to, will you do the sayme?

It's fun lol. I'm pretty sure I actually said I would push for a Kush mayor pre-game; he's hilarious and does things randomly. Also if he is scum it's even better for town because he would have to lynch a scummer because he only knows how to bus lol.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
November 18 2013 00:33 GMT
#2686
On November 18 2013 09:27 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 09:24 Grackaroni wrote:
On November 18 2013 09:22 Alakaslam wrote:
On November 18 2013 09:19 Grackaroni wrote:
On November 18 2013 09:18 Alakaslam wrote:
On November 18 2013 09:04 OOHCHILD wrote:
pretty useless list with zero research behind it...
poe scummers
BloodyC0bbler
Mattchew
Coagulation
Hopeless1der
Stutters695
Mr. Cheesecake
LoneMeow
Alakaslam

Kush been spending time in a QT. Was it mason or another?

I OMGUS freely.

Quit trolling.

Nay, I am serious. Kush is being nuts how could you have been pushing his mayor? Y u troll?

To be fair I troll because the juices begin to flo- I mean, well for reasons.

I will explain any speifix trollz you ask me to, will you do the sayme?

It's fun lol. I'm pretty sure I actually said I would push for a Kush mayor pre-game; he's hilarious and does things randomly. Also if he is scum it's even better for town because he would have to lynch a scummer because he only knows how to bus lol.

I agree the amusing is amusing amusement

However amusing the amusement is found to be however, I question ye;:; what of The BlazingHand 's case on you? Can you/ have you answered it?

Trolls are actually often town lol. I can understand the case coming from BH because he is incapable of playing seriously as mafia and tries to use gimmicks. (His play in Golden Sun as a scum smurf was to create extremely long lists of notes that ultimately say nothing, and he also claimed that he could only post in like a short window of time after work and before he goes to sleep)

Basically my early game play style is something that BH would try to use as scum in order to avoid suspicion. But just because BH can't play scum doesn't mean I am unable to play scum.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
November 18 2013 00:59 GMT
#2724
Lol Mocsta You have no idea what you are talking about. In Hogwarts I said screw you Palmar is scum to both syllo and Marv. Way too unconfident.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
November 18 2013 01:08 GMT
#2742
I'm voting Artanis next game.

Lets hear your findings BH.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
November 18 2013 01:26 GMT
#2759
On November 18 2013 10:26 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 15:24 Mocsta wrote:
VA seriously
That is not cool.

I don't five a fuck what alignment u r.


mocsta scumslips that I am town here, so if you push me from here I will just think you are dumb unfortunately.

LOL I actually agree with this.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
November 18 2013 01:29 GMT
#2760
It would be pretty cool if all the scum end up being the people pushing me.
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