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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 22 2013 21:16 GMT
#5393
On November 23 2013 06:15 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2013 06:11 Onegu wrote:
I know HF likes to bus, and the other wagons I have town reads on so youre it. Looks like im the only one on HF but not going to vote for a null read at this point.

Is this true?



Yup.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 22 2013 21:17 GMT
#5396
I just got out of hogwarts with HF where all we did all game was bus each other.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 22 2013 21:21 GMT
#5406
4:18 am

Goodnight.... Im not goinf to lynch LM rayn, I still cant believe a scum LM would mason a town yamato. He would ask his scum qt what he should do and they wouldnt let him do that, and yes he would ask, I have been on the same scum team with him twice and he always asks.

Pandain maybe I could but I dont have the energy to look right now.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 23 2013 05:28 GMT
#5786
So I can tottally see a scum Koshi pushing for a town rayn lynch so he can go post game I got you because of thier history, and because of this he makes sure austin hammers him.

HF you bus as scum, yes the situation was different but that doesnt change the fact that YOU CALLED ME SCUM DAY 1 WHEN WE STILL HAD 6 SCUMMERS IN HOGWARTS.

/dunked
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 23 2013 05:30 GMT
#5787
On November 23 2013 10:07 VayneAuthority wrote:
lynch koshi tomorrow as rayn's dying request, least we can do for him. koshi is better then that

+1
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 23 2013 05:45 GMT
#5789
I did. And that resoning isnt bad its something scum koshi would do to town rayn.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 23 2013 05:47 GMT
#5790
Also not sure why Im not getting flak for the risen unvote.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 23 2013 09:32 GMT
#5799
On November 23 2013 15:24 thrawn2112 wrote:
Onegu is scum!

Show nested quote +
On November 23 2013 03:32 Onegu wrote:
Im caught up and I swear this is the biggest clusterfuck game I have been in. So many lies, fakeclaims, BS arguements about irrelevant stuff. Look I had irl stuff had havent posted in either game for the last 20 hours or so. I somehow keep getting the feeling that BC and Mig are town, I believe Migs claim and shot, but I kinda like BCs posts in the last day. I also agree with him on a few things. So you wanted my list but I have to add a null section because a few people I just cant read atm.

Very townie: Rayn, VA, Slam
Leaning town. BC, Mig, thrawn, Mr. CC, LM
Null: Coag, Hopeless, pandain, oats, SS
Leaning Scum: Grack, risen
Very Scum: Austin, Koshi, HF

##VOTE:KOSHI
##VOTE:HOLYFLARE


Look at his reads list... he has the two lynch candidates as town... but how much effort does he put into trying to save them? Close to none with rayn (who only got lynched because of BC but he was still a person people wanted to kill) and absolutely none with BC. After not trying to save his town reads... he completely throws away his votes.

Show nested quote +
On November 23 2013 10:02 marvellosity wrote:
Holyflare (1): Onegu, Risen

austinmcc (1): Onegu




Welcome to town meta onegu. I learned not to do this in my first two newbies as scum so I only do it as town now.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 23 2013 10:40 GMT
#5802
I explained my votes I wasnt going to vote for my town reads, and I liked risens response toward deadline, hindsight I should have stayed with it as it lead to the rayn lynch which I had a very heavy town read on rayn.

BC because of basicly my gut.

Koshi because his case on rayn was bad and useing reasons he himself has done, and then him calling me out for bs reasons on more than one occasion.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 23 2013 13:44 GMT
#5804
On November 23 2013 20:06 thrawn2112 wrote:
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On November 23 2013 19:40 Onegu wrote:
I explained my votes I wasnt going to vote for my town reads, and I liked risens response toward deadline, hindsight I should have stayed with it as it lead to the rayn lynch which I had a very heavy town read on rayn.


I can understand this ^^^

BC because of basicly my gut.

Koshi because his case on rayn was bad and useing reasons he himself has done, and then him calling me out for bs reasons on more than one occasion.


But I still want you to explain your koshi scumread in greater detail. Hypocrisy + OMGUS does not = scum
[/QUOTE]


Ok Ill work on it tonight.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 23 2013 16:37 GMT
#5827
On November 24 2013 00:30 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2013 14:28 Onegu wrote:
So I can tottally see a scum Koshi pushing for a town rayn lynch so he can go post game I got you because of thier history, and because of this he makes sure austin hammers him.

HF you bus as scum, yes the situation was different but that doesnt change the fact that YOU CALLED ME SCUM DAY 1 WHEN WE STILL HAD 6 SCUMMERS IN HOGWARTS.

/dunked


I think you're confusing bussing with calling out an afk team mate. You honestly believe I was pushing BC all throughout day 2 just to lynch a mafia doctor over an easy BH assassin lynch? Onegu your reads seriously need updating because the only thing you have called me up on is the LM thing on day 1 and you even give reasoning for why he SHOULDN'T be town??? We NEEDED to bus on hogwarts because we were losing so badly and every day our kp got blocked. This game is going way too favourably for scum for someone to do that, I agree light bussing maybe in order, which is why thrawn is scummy as all shit for his vote on BC whilst seemingly defending him the entire time but for your only reads to be austin (who has appeared to be very towny the past day and me (who did a lot to get BC shot/lynched)) you must be kidding right?


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On November 23 2013 06:21 Onegu wrote:
4:18 am

Goodnight.... Im not goinf to lynch LM rayn, I still cant believe a scum LM would mason a town yamato. He would ask his scum qt what he should do and they wouldnt let him do that, and yes he would ask, I have been on the same scum team with him twice and he always asks.

Pandain maybe I could but I dont have the energy to look right now.



This is exactly what I said about LM and exactly what Onegu is calling me scummy for. LM would come back and ask for the towniest person to mason with = yamato. I can't honestly believe this guy has lived so long.



@Everyone else, I want to point you in the direction of Onegu.

Not only has he returned to the thread with no real reads whatsoever he has been absent from pretty much every conversation we've had in order to solve this game EVERY day. Where have you seen his input that has made you think "hmm, maybe he's right lets do that", the answer is never and then he returns with a town read on BC, ignoring any facts that occured through the vig shot scenario or his posts on d2.

Then I direct you to this post:



Show nested quote +
On November 23 2013 18:32 Onegu wrote:
On November 23 2013 15:24 thrawn2112 wrote:
Onegu is scum!

On November 23 2013 03:32 Onegu wrote:
Im caught up and I swear this is the biggest clusterfuck game I have been in. So many lies, fakeclaims, BS arguements about irrelevant stuff. Look I had irl stuff had havent posted in either game for the last 20 hours or so. I somehow keep getting the feeling that BC and Mig are town, I believe Migs claim and shot, but I kinda like BCs posts in the last day. I also agree with him on a few things. So you wanted my list but I have to add a null section because a few people I just cant read atm.

Very townie: Rayn, VA, Slam
Leaning town. BC, Mig, thrawn, Mr. CC, LM
Null: Coag, Hopeless, pandain, oats, SS
Leaning Scum: Grack, risen
Very Scum: Austin, Koshi, HF

##VOTE:KOSHI
##VOTE:HOLYFLARE


Look at his reads list... he has the two lynch candidates as town... but how much effort does he put into trying to save them? Close to none with rayn (who only got lynched because of BC but he was still a person people wanted to kill) and absolutely none with BC. After not trying to save his town reads... he completely throws away his votes.

On November 23 2013 10:02 marvellosity wrote:
Holyflare (1): Onegu, Risen

austinmcc (1): Onegu




Welcome to town meta onegu. I learned not to do this in my first two newbies as scum so I only do it as town now.


This struck me as interesting because I don't think anyone would intentionally say they are playing to their own town meta. Then I remembered that Onegu has said this before here:

(This is from Hogwarts Scum QT)

Show nested quote +
onegu
10-17-2013
05:45 PM ET (US)
Im playing to my town meta, I will be more active tomorrow. In my qt they have you holy pegged as town. Anyway I have to sleep now, will catchup in the morning.


He is confident that he knows his town meta and can play to it. So why would he say that here if he wasn't trying to intentionally play to it too?

_________________________________

There are a lot of specifics on Onegu's filter that I can get into and make a case on but for now I think Onegu is actually scum. His votes were on his scum reads austin and me which had nobody else on them but he didn't vote on his null reads to save his town read? Really? That doesn't compute. Of course scum can pull shenanigans at the last minute, that is what they are known for, he knows this too but still doesn't register it.


On November 16 2013 14:13 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 13:45 yamato77 wrote:
On November 16 2013 13:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 16 2013 13:37 yamato77 wrote:
On November 16 2013 13:35 VisceraEyes wrote:
Yamato reveal the secrets your masonry keeps hidden from the rest of us. TELL ME WHAT I WANT TO KNOW ABOUT LONEMEOW!!!

he wants to know what I think about rayn

i haven't really invested much time paying attention to rayn

That usually pays out in the end man. Is that it? Like, just asking you about rayn? Do you think he's town or scum based on your interactions?

there's not much to base it off of

honestly, with how super and I talked about it earlier, I think LM is town and it's not worth fretting over



I honestly have no idea how this argument keeps getting used IN FAVOUR of LM. He's contributed jack shit, his only posts in the mason chat are asking what yamato thinks about rayn. This is 100% LM that I saw in hogwarts when he was scum. He comes into the QT, asks what he should do with his power and asks who he should focus on. His power got used on conveniently the most towny person at the start of the game without reading.... despite him knowing the playstyles of other people (both factions) whereas he only knows one playstyle of yamato's, his reason for doing it? He picked a random person on the player list.... His only participation in this thread is shock at storrzerg being new/not new. Congratulations, he's in the background again.

As far as this little gem that I've seen:

Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 12:49 Risen wrote:
On November 16 2013 12:48 yamato77 wrote:
On November 16 2013 08:58 Blazinghand wrote:
Hey so before we go all pant-head here I will upgrade to sock-head and push for an RNG lynch

So here's what happens

1) you elect me mayor

2) I will lynch the guy via RNG as determined by this post (the one you're reading right now)'s post count modulo 31. Since so many people are posting at once on TL it's impossible for us to know what's going down. I've done this before. It works.

For RNG, this post will be used for generating a random lynch. The # in the upper left corner can be right-clicked and used to access the absolute TL post # for this post. That number mod 9 is the random lynch. 1 =Oats, 2 = rayn, etc, all the way up to 8 = holyflare and 0 = sloosh.

The reason we use the absolute TL post number is that posts are constantly being made, so the number is truly random. We turn it into a number 1-9 by taking that number mod 9. What is mod? effectively, it's the remainder after division. For example. 10 mod 9 = 1. 11 mod 9 = 2. 18 mod 9 = 0. 19 mod 9 = 1. and so on.

Basically, this generates a random number 1 through 9. I am in favor of the random lynch (though am somewhat interested in a policy lynch today as well-- TL does not do this enough. I will start off by voting for the random lynched based on THIS POST.


In this case,
1 = BC
2 = Mattchew
3 = Sharrant
4 = VE

and so on

all the way up to...
30 = BH
0 = Oatsmaster

(since a multiple of 31 modulo 31 is 0, not 31).



Stopping here momentarily because I want to note just how awful this is as an entrance post over halway through d1

He made an equally "horrible" opening post in WHC. I'm not phased, and wondering why you are.


Risen, you quite clearly know that this wasn't the only post that BH did in WHC so why does it not phase you that his content thus far has been utterly appalling? BH in WHC was shaparoning, giving reads, solving things and eventually got us to lynch your scum partner. Does this really look like the same BH to you?








Im going to requote this since you forgot what you wrote HF. This is you saying a scum LM picked a random person to mason. Then I called you out for it, you called him a null read from this post, where you say " This is 100% LM that I saw in hogwarts when he was scum." because thats a null read. And now you are saying we are saying the same thing.

/doubledunked

And yeah I do play to my town meta thats true, but I dont talk about that in thread. And anyway I pointed out you were capable of bussing and giving your scummates scum reads in a game with still 6 scum left.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 23 2013 16:41 GMT
#5828
@Rayn

Thanks for /dunked I like it
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 23 2013 17:35 GMT
#5847
On November 24 2013 01:47 Holyflare wrote:
I think scum can mason whoever the hell they want to be truthful. When exactly did he mason you? Was it the start of the day? Or did he wait to see what was going on before he did it and make an educated attempt at finding out your alignment?


Also in regards to Onegu, he says I'm scum for calling saying LM's mason day 1 could be scum LM and then posts this:

Show nested quote +
On November 23 2013 06:21 Onegu wrote:
4:18 am

Goodnight.... Im not goinf to lynch LM rayn, I still cant believe a scum LM would mason a town yamato. He would ask his scum qt what he should do and they wouldnt let him do that, and yes he would ask, I have been on the same scum team with him twice and he always asks.

Pandain maybe I could but I dont have the energy to look right now.


and calls him town for it.... LOL.. I don't even know what to think of it at all because it actually looks like a joke



HF let me ask you this do you think if LM was scum, do you think his scummates would let him mason a town yamato?
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 23 2013 17:43 GMT
#5851
Guys look at holyflare, he goes from LM is scum, to no I was calling him null in that post, to me and onegu are saying the same thing, when I said scum LM wouldnt pick town yamto because he would ask is scum qt and they wouldnt let him, yet his post says he picked someone at random.

HE CANT KEEP HIS STORY STRAIGHT. Lynch with fire!!!
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 23 2013 18:06 GMT
#5856
Onegu

 I still cant believe a scum LM would mason a town yamato. He would ask his scum qt what he should do and they wouldnt let him do that, and yes he would ask, I have been on the same scum team with him twice and he always asks.


Holyflare
This is exactly what I said about LM and exactly what Onegu is calling me scummy for. LM would come back and ask for the towniest person to mason with = yamato




 His power got used on conveniently the most towny person at the start of the game without reading.... despite him knowing the playstyles of other people (both factions) whereas he only knows one playstyle of yamato's, his reason for doing it? He picked a random person on the player list....


I think you have misunderstood what I was saying with the entirety of my LM posts. I am not calling him scummy and I am not calling him town, he is a big fat null read.


There you go, hes 100% same as scum from hogwarts and he picked a random person, to I was saying he was a null read, to we are saying the same thing.

How am I misunderstanding?
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 23 2013 18:11 GMT
#5857
No no no LM never said it was random.

On November 15 2013 22:46 LoneMeow wrote:
Just to clear up why I masoned before posting:

I read my role and it said to send the PM "at the beginning of cycle". It already being quite a few hours since the cycle started when I woke up, I just looked at the player list and picked someone before reading the thread.


On November 15 2013 23:15 LoneMeow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 23:12 Koshi wrote:
rofl. Nha.
Why Yamato?


Because I got the impression that he's pretty solid player when he's town from LXII, so I want to know if he's town in this one, and I think I stand a better chance outside the thread.



Nice try though.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 23 2013 18:21 GMT
#5858
On November 24 2013 02:46 austinmcc wrote:
Onegu. Please read vayne. Please give thoughts.

HF. What's rayn's most convincing read from yesterday? Least convincing?



Believe his claim, with the multiple breadcrumbs. Dont think he was bussing so hard, and follows his town meta. Will look closer for you though.
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Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 25 2013 16:44 GMT
#6302
##VOTE RISEN

Supersofts read
I should have killed him last night, basicly it was my unvote that killed rayn

Also HF thinks risen is scum but doesnt vote for him, when he know a risen lynch will get rid alot of questions on BC wifom, in addition to kill scum.

Look here is how I feel right now I laid some stuff down on HF multiple times, I asked for thoughts and even HF called for people to tell me to stfu. Other than HF who I was talkong about, no one else said a word. If I was scum I would be so happy I could just atk someone and look like activity but no one pays attention, but as I am town its really fucking depressing. Im not rayn Im not going to repeatedly shove shit in the thread. But all I hear is HF is town and no one saying a damn thing to me. My post on koshi only thrawn responded. If you think I am wrong give me fucking reasons. Dont just ignore it, I know alot of shit is going on but some people comment on just about everything but my case or thoughts. Austin asks me questions but doesnt actually talk about what I say. He reads it and moves on. Im caught up on everything I have thoughts, they havent changed since yesterday.
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Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 25 2013 17:01 GMT
#6305
On November 26 2013 01:52 austinmcc wrote:
Onegu, I read your stuff, but, do you think that HF should be a lynch option today, or just that he is mafia and we gots ta watch him?

Also, HF, can you post the log between you and artanis, or...at the very least, relevant sections of the log where you discuss Artanis's target for the night?



No risen needs to be lynched today or there will always be questions about him that will dominate discussion, and since th think there is a greater than 70% chance he flips scum he is the lynch.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 25 2013 17:03 GMT
#6306
On November 26 2013 01:48 Koshi wrote:
You are wrong. Koshi is town. The reason is in the pudding.



I ate all the pudding.
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