EPTThe amount of information garnered on todays, and day 3s vote count will be worth it if he flips town. I think then we can just start ticking off the mafia by virtue of vote analogous
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Mr. Cheesecake
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The amount of information garnered on todays, and day 3s vote count will be worth it if he flips town. I think then we can just start ticking off the mafia by virtue of vote analogous | ||
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Mr. Cheesecake
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Onegu Koshi Coagulation Hopeless1der Grackaroni Pandain VayneAuthority austinmcc Risen Mr. Cheesecake Holyflare LoneMeow Alakaslam Oatsmaster I'm looking at this if Risen is indeed town. | ||
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On November 26 2013 11:00 Oatsmaster wrote: hey wtf CC, Im like the only one who hasnt tried to lynch you this game. Lol... I don't think I've had a vote on me this game. What are you even talking about? U scum bro? | ||
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Mr. Cheesecake
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On November 26 2013 11:00 Oatsmaster wrote: hey wtf CC, Im like the only one who hasnt tried to lynch you this game. Hmm I now think Oats might be scum. Fuck that previous townread, this comment is so much BS because I haven't seen a single person try to lynch me. Don't try to buddy up to me in hopes you'll ride out to lylo based on my initial townread of you. | ||
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Mr. Cheesecake
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On November 23 2013 08:56 thrawn2112 wrote: goddammit lol i'm not nearly scummy enough... plan failed AUUUSTINNNN you're like confm town to me wtf should I do? I don't want to vote Risen because since I've come back he's been posting nearly the entire time uninterrupted and has made sense throughout all of it. It looks completely unlike what a scum player would be able to do in the last few hours leading up to his lynch. With quotes like this in both thrawns and BCs filter, we need to lynch risen tomorrow. | ||
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Mr. Cheesecake
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both scum were voting for Pandain, and not risen. Risen had his vote tied up in Oats and rayn. Yeah, we're lynching Risen tomorrow 100% no shenannies. Except really no shenannies this time. | ||
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Mr. Cheesecake
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Mr. Cheesecake's Big List of What The Fuck to Do 1) Risen needs to be lynched tomorrow, cut and dry. If you are advocating against lynching Risen, you are not being pro-town. There is indisputable evidence that Risen is probably mafia. In the event he flips town, the game is all but won due to the information we possess via votecounts and flipped scum associations.
B) Evidence - Risen martyr's like a fool. I saw little attempt to direct town in the right direction if he had died. He Promises to make cases before the deadline! Look! + Show Spoiler + On November 25 2013 08:27 Risen wrote: 1) at the end of the day I will post actual cases on my top reads. Doing so sooner means you guys might move off of me. 2) the question you need to ask yourself mig, since you seem to have a hard time with this, is does town risen have that big an ego? The answer is yes. That's what scum risen would say, too, though. I thought people last game were wrong saying risen only gets away with this kind of thing because he's so bad but now I think they're right lol. I thought I did a really good job establishing myself as town the first couple days. Clearly, I did not. Risen is not caring about the town, and doesn't make good on his promises. Did you see any giant Risen case? He was about to die, very close. No cases. He was going to die silently. C) Evidence - Risen just isn't playing very pro-town in general. I can't exactly say much to this point, but it's true. What evidence is there that Risen is town? I can't find much in this regard. Lynch. 2) In the event Risen flips Town. Follow this List. I believe it to be correct. Mig ---> Claims 2-shot vigi, seems legit. Very plausible town. Coagulation ---> Voted Thrawn, if scum would have killed town Risen. Hopeless1der ---> Both BC and Mocsta were scummy on him. Voted Thrawn. Grackaroni ---> All 3 scum have pushed him super hard. Could be universal bussing, but likely town. Voted Thrawn. austinmcc ---> began Thrawn wagon of justice, leading lynch onto scum away from town. Mr. Cheesecake---> I'm town bitches. Holyflare ---> Voted Thrawn. Seemed townie to me early on. LoneMeow ---> Mason. 3 mafia masons? Voted Thrawn last hour when could have killed Risen ez. Alakaslam ---> Voted Thrawn. Called mafia by Thrawn I think. Least townie of town. Onegu ---> Voted Risen, ??? What has he done this game I don't remember. Koshi ---> Led lynch onto Town Rayn, leading away from Town Risen, no big deal. Didn't vote thrawn. Oatsmaster ---> Scummy in his own right. Declined to vote, not modkilled. Pandain --> Towniest of the reds. Both scum voted him end of D3. Bus tactics? didn't kill thrawn. was he the vet claim? VayneAuthority ---> Claims mad hatter, but no proofs of explody bombs. Didnt vote thrawn, but didnt vote Risen either. 3) In the event Risen flips Mafia. Only two mafia left! We gain a ton of information about the Day 4 and Day 3 lynches. Look at who were voting BC/Thrawn/Risen. Who was NOT voting these people and shying away from them. I think Koshi really fits the bill here, pulling the Risen lynch onto Rayn. For Day 4, mafia were probably bussing Risen because he was the unanimous lynch. Switching onto Thrawn last minute is a good way to gain towncred by swing voting a mafia (See: Nomination, I lead a lynch on scum away from scum VE, gain all the towncred, lose game cus can't kill people at night). In this case, the associations and voting patterns get a bit harder to decipher, as both candidates were mafia. I'd be looking at people who either didn't care about the lynch target, or were trying to actively call Risen town by virtue of Thrawn being mafia. This lynch gains scum Risen towncred and the ones who lynched Risen towncred. It's hazy, but we'll cross that bridge when we come to it. Scum has 1 KP. With daybreak, assuming 1 town dies, game will be at 3 v 11 (14 players left). Assuming Risen flips town + 1 more death, 3 v 9. Mislynch again. 3 v 7. mislynch AGAIN 3 v 5 lylo. This means that IF Risen flips town, we still have two lynches with ALL THAT INFORMATION. Still, a VERY good position for town! If he flips scum, we have more mislynches allotted, but with less direction. Can probably close out the game by being active, and when the first scum of the last two flips. Game's in the bag, folks. If anyone can dispute this strategy, do so now. Lynch Risen, win game. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler [Bussing Theory] + Okay, so who has pushed Grack this game? Mocsta, BC, Thrawn (All confirmed scum), and scummy people like Coag, and Risen to a certain degree. Problem is, none of these scummers (and potential scummers) have really tried to get him lynched. They've just flung shit at him left and right. Look at that opening D4 post by thrawn, he just says OMG GRACK SCUM. NOBODY in the thread thinks he is scum, why say this now as mafia? To distance yourself from a buddy. Thrawn had an intention behind calling grack scum, and I really can't figure it out other than bussing to make Grack look better if Thrawn flipped. Mocsta and BC both had Grack and scum, Posts on him etc, but never pushed their cases. I feel like everyone who has been calling grack scum hasn't had a good handle on the game from a townie mindset (I.E. they are mafia). There are also quotes in Gracks fitler about all the mafia being on him, and one in Coags filter about all the mafia bussing grack... If Coag / Risen are mafia I'd highly suggest lynching Grack because of this. In no circumstance do we lynch him before lylo. In addition, wtf has grack done this game?!?!!? | ||
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Mr. Cheesecake
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Rest are nullers =| | ||
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Mr. Cheesecake
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Kinda but not really. As I said, fuck my life. | ||
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Mr. Cheesecake
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On November 27 2013 01:22 Grackaroni wrote: lol my reads have been impeccable all game long. Mine are impeccable as scum too. I really don't think you are scum, but it's sitting in the back of my mind because that's how I play scum. Were you in Aperture 2? Only reason me and clarity were called scum, was because we were alive. Even though I bussed my entire team. | ||
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Mr. Cheesecake
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No we won convincingly, point is bussing = good tactic toi have. | ||
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Mr. Cheesecake
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Enough NK speculation. We will know soon enough. | ||
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