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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 17 2013 17:13 GMT
#2333
Austin Lets play a game read your own filter and tell me what is missing, maybe compare it to a type of food. Im thinking a marshmellow do you agree? All fluff, looks good, but nothing of substance. You give your first scum read on page 6 of your filter. My note go like this for you. Wow very good at attepting to get people involved with questions. Good back and forth with people. Very detailed thought process. Very active. Wait there are no scum reads. Only gives town reads. Doesnt call anyone scum. Only scumread a lurker and "Rayn could be scum, but I have had him more scummy in his other town games"
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 17 2013 17:14 GMT
#2334
People Rayn is town.... But he should have a scum read on me...
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 17 2013 17:25 GMT
#2337
I feel I should have more than only 4 page filter atm :/ ok need to be more active.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 17 2013 17:26 GMT
#2338
Anyway Im still finishing up my complete filter dives tonight, just finished austin.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 17 2013 17:28 GMT
#2339
On November 18 2013 02:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I can't have a scumread on you after the last game.
Well i can but as long as you are "helping me" i don't even care if you are scum.



And I feel I am playing this game better than witchcraft, which is why I feel people who have played with me often should have scum reads on me lol.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 17 2013 18:03 GMT
#2359
Koshi you dont think rayn actually believes HF is scum, like some of rayns points arent the best but I really think he thinks he found scum. And Im not the biggest fan of HF either but that is besides the point.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 17 2013 18:04 GMT
#2361
On November 18 2013 03:00 Koshi wrote:
There is too much angry in you rayn, you havent done enough work to justify that anger. The anger is nothing new btw. Started quite early in your filter.
PS: Nobody knows why you think Holyflare is scum.



See this makes rayn town....
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 17 2013 18:06 GMT
#2362
On November 18 2013 03:03 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 03:03 Onegu wrote:
Koshi you dont think rayn actually believes HF is scum, like some of rayns points arent the best but I really think he thinks he found scum. And Im not the biggest fan of HF either but that is besides the point.


Did you read what I wrote to you earlier by the way?



Yeah but I havent mulled over what it means yet, I plan on going back to it after I finish my filter reads.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 17 2013 18:22 GMT
#2368
On November 18 2013 03:08 Holyflare wrote:
huuuuuuh......? Onegu, let me just give you some food for thought re:rayn because your analysis of him isn't necessarily correct.

Here is his WHC mafia filter he's doing the exact same thing he did in that game. Tunneling onto me and not being entirely coherent on his cases. People didn't think they made sense, just like now. I was town, he was scum in that game.

What do you think now? I want to hear the reasons of your thinking rather than opinions.



Nah thats different imo, first in that game he makes the case on you, people question him on it and he defends it lightly not pushing it much and then unvotes you saying he might be wrong.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 17 2013 18:26 GMT
#2370
On November 18 2013 03:09 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 03:04 Onegu wrote:
On November 18 2013 03:00 Koshi wrote:
There is too much angry in you rayn, you havent done enough work to justify that anger. The anger is nothing new btw. Started quite early in your filter.
PS: Nobody knows why you think Holyflare is scum.

See this makes rayn town....

If rayn found scum, everybody knows why that person is scum. This game we dont know why Holyflare is scum in rayns mind even though rayn made posts about how his case is the best and how he doesnt have to repeat why Holyflare is scum.



Ask WoS if that is true. Town rayn tunnels him hardcore with reasons arent so solid in P4. And not everyone were convinced WoS was scum either. Rayn can make cases that not everyone follows as town or scum, its how he pushes those cases and what he does with them that make him scum or town.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 17 2013 18:30 GMT
#2373
Koshi can you comment on austin?
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Onegu
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United States9699 Posts
November 17 2013 18:52 GMT
#2394
On November 18 2013 03:49 Koshi wrote:
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On November 18 2013 03:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 18 2013 03:32 Koshi wrote:
On November 18 2013 03:30 Onegu wrote:
Koshi can you comment on austin?

Austin is town in my book.

Why?

He called me town multiple times and makes big posts.



Koshi did you read his filter his big posts have no substance and he has no scum reads until page 6 of his filter when his ONE scum read is a lurker.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 17 2013 18:53 GMT
#2398
On November 18 2013 03:49 Koshi wrote:
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On November 18 2013 03:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 18 2013 03:32 Koshi wrote:
On November 18 2013 03:30 Onegu wrote:
Koshi can you comment on austin?

Austin is town in my book.

Why?

He called me town multiple times and makes big posts.



And this is terrible and lazy....
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 17 2013 19:13 GMT
#2414
Rayn you are being a bit anal retentive of this one buddy, you can give him your read its ok, it wont hurt you. Rayn called pandain scum earlier.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 17 2013 19:31 GMT
#2432
Austin you see my post for you?
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 17 2013 20:13 GMT
#2451
On November 18 2013 05:09 StorrZerg wrote:
Mad Hatter

could die as well from this as well


i mean when does this become worth it to mafia?

to me it seems that if your mafia, and you make this call ss, you could possibly get BC (who may or may not have a role but is a strong player) Get 2 out of the other possible people who would come to bc that night. I honestly feel that it looks more like a 1 for 3 trade. Is BC life that worth? Or maybe this is a way to tie up docs on bc, allowing mafia to have free kp shots?


when i had left yesterday, i was leaning towards scum bc. I'll have to reread, but this whole speculation makes me feel very uncomfortable with you SS. I had read your filter ss, and was feeling pretty comfortable with you till this comment.

@SS why are you not more upset at VE for his lynch choice?



MadHatter has claimed and said who he has bombed...
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 17 2013 20:19 GMT
#2453
On November 18 2013 05:13 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 05:09 StorrZerg wrote:
Mad Hatter

could die as well from this as well


i mean when does this become worth it to mafia?

to me it seems that if your mafia, and you make this call ss, you could possibly get BC (who may or may not have a role but is a strong player) Get 2 out of the other possible people who would come to bc that night. I honestly feel that it looks more like a 1 for 3 trade. Is BC life that worth? Or maybe this is a way to tie up docs on bc, allowing mafia to have free kp shots?


when i had left yesterday, i was leaning towards scum bc. I'll have to reread, but this whole speculation makes me feel very uncomfortable with you SS. I had read your filter ss, and was feeling pretty comfortable with you till this comment.

@SS why are you not more upset at VE for his lynch choice?



MadHatter has claimed and said who he has bombed...



Oh just read OP he gets 2 bombs and he only claimed one bomb placememt so I guess its possible.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 17 2013 20:24 GMT
#2456
On November 18 2013 05:22 StorrZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 05:13 Onegu wrote:
On November 18 2013 05:09 StorrZerg wrote:
Mad Hatter

could die as well from this as well


i mean when does this become worth it to mafia?

to me it seems that if your mafia, and you make this call ss, you could possibly get BC (who may or may not have a role but is a strong player) Get 2 out of the other possible people who would come to bc that night. I honestly feel that it looks more like a 1 for 3 trade. Is BC life that worth? Or maybe this is a way to tie up docs on bc, allowing mafia to have free kp shots?


when i had left yesterday, i was leaning towards scum bc. I'll have to reread, but this whole speculation makes me feel very uncomfortable with you SS. I had read your filter ss, and was feeling pretty comfortable with you till this comment.

@SS why are you not more upset at VE for his lynch choice?



MadHatter has claimed and said who he has bombed...


still catching up obviously...


Ok no spoilers.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 18 2013 11:15 GMT
#3003
On November 18 2013 19:45 LoneMeow wrote:
BH seems like fine lunch right now.

##Vote: BlazingHand



Id prefer a burger and fries but if you like hand well done to each his own. Ok Im caught up. Im ok with a BH lynch but think it should be a double lynch so we can hit 2 scum today. I still havent finished my filter reads yet Im on HolyFlare now and I still think he is scum. I was way off on mocsta as I was catching up when he said he shot storrzerg I wrote "terrible shot but most likely makes him town" And was also wrong on sharrant. Anyway I will finish my filters and reread grack tonight, not sure he should be completely taken off the table as town, dont like that I am agreeing with BH here but WIFOM.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 18 2013 11:37 GMT
#3006
On November 16 2013 14:13 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 13:45 yamato77 wrote:
On November 16 2013 13:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 16 2013 13:37 yamato77 wrote:
On November 16 2013 13:35 VisceraEyes wrote:
Yamato reveal the secrets your masonry keeps hidden from the rest of us. TELL ME WHAT I WANT TO KNOW ABOUT LONEMEOW!!!

he wants to know what I think about rayn

i haven't really invested much time paying attention to rayn

That usually pays out in the end man. Is that it? Like, just asking you about rayn? Do you think he's town or scum based on your interactions?

there's not much to base it off of

honestly, with how super and I talked about it earlier, I think LM is town and it's not worth fretting over



I honestly have no idea how this argument keeps getting used IN FAVOUR of LM. He's contributed jack shit, his only posts in the mason chat are asking what yamato thinks about rayn. This is 100% LM that I saw in hogwarts when he was scum. He comes into the QT, asks what he should do with his power and asks who he should focus on. His power got used on conveniently the most towny person at the start of the game without reading.... despite him knowing the playstyles of other people (both factions) whereas he only knows one playstyle of yamato's, his reason for doing it? He picked a random person on the player list.... His only participation in this thread is shock at storrzerg being new/not new. Congratulations, he's in the background again.

As far as this little gem that I've seen:

Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 12:49 Risen wrote:
On November 16 2013 12:48 yamato77 wrote:
On November 16 2013 08:58 Blazinghand wrote:
Hey so before we go all pant-head here I will upgrade to sock-head and push for an RNG lynch

So here's what happens

1) you elect me mayor

2) I will lynch the guy via RNG as determined by this post (the one you're reading right now)'s post count modulo 31. Since so many people are posting at once on TL it's impossible for us to know what's going down. I've done this before. It works.

For RNG, this post will be used for generating a random lynch. The # in the upper left corner can be right-clicked and used to access the absolute TL post # for this post. That number mod 9 is the random lynch. 1 =Oats, 2 = rayn, etc, all the way up to 8 = holyflare and 0 = sloosh.

The reason we use the absolute TL post number is that posts are constantly being made, so the number is truly random. We turn it into a number 1-9 by taking that number mod 9. What is mod? effectively, it's the remainder after division. For example. 10 mod 9 = 1. 11 mod 9 = 2. 18 mod 9 = 0. 19 mod 9 = 1. and so on.

Basically, this generates a random number 1 through 9. I am in favor of the random lynch (though am somewhat interested in a policy lynch today as well-- TL does not do this enough. I will start off by voting for the random lynched based on THIS POST.


In this case,
1 = BC
2 = Mattchew
3 = Sharrant
4 = VE

and so on

all the way up to...
30 = BH
0 = Oatsmaster

(since a multiple of 31 modulo 31 is 0, not 31).



Stopping here momentarily because I want to note just how awful this is as an entrance post over halway through d1

He made an equally "horrible" opening post in WHC. I'm not phased, and wondering why you are.


Risen, you quite clearly know that this wasn't the only post that BH did in WHC so why does it not phase you that his content thus far has been utterly appalling? BH in WHC was shaparoning, giving reads, solving things and eventually got us to lynch your scum partner. Does this really look like the same BH to you?







On November 17 2013 06:53 Holyflare wrote:
@risen + Show Spoiler +
On November 16 2013 15:06 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 14:13 Holyflare wrote:
On November 16 2013 13:45 yamato77 wrote:
On November 16 2013 13:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 16 2013 13:37 yamato77 wrote:
On November 16 2013 13:35 VisceraEyes wrote:
Yamato reveal the secrets your masonry keeps hidden from the rest of us. TELL ME WHAT I WANT TO KNOW ABOUT LONEMEOW!!!

he wants to know what I think about rayn

i haven't really invested much time paying attention to rayn

That usually pays out in the end man. Is that it? Like, just asking you about rayn? Do you think he's town or scum based on your interactions?

there's not much to base it off of

honestly, with how super and I talked about it earlier, I think LM is town and it's not worth fretting over



I honestly have no idea how this argument keeps getting used IN FAVOUR of LM. He's contributed jack shit, his only posts in the mason chat are asking what yamato thinks about rayn. This is 100% LM that I saw in hogwarts when he was scum. He comes into the QT, asks what he should do with his power and asks who he should focus on. His power got used on conveniently the most towny person at the start of the game without reading.... despite him knowing the playstyles of other people (both factions) whereas he only knows one playstyle of yamato's, his reason for doing it? He picked a random person on the player list.... His only participation in this thread is shock at storrzerg being new/not new. Congratulations, he's in the background again.

As far as this little gem that I've seen:

On November 16 2013 12:49 Risen wrote:
On November 16 2013 12:48 yamato77 wrote:
On November 16 2013 08:58 Blazinghand wrote:
Hey so before we go all pant-head here I will upgrade to sock-head and push for an RNG lynch

So here's what happens

1) you elect me mayor

2) I will lynch the guy via RNG as determined by this post (the one you're reading right now)'s post count modulo 31. Since so many people are posting at once on TL it's impossible for us to know what's going down. I've done this before. It works.

For RNG, this post will be used for generating a random lynch. The # in the upper left corner can be right-clicked and used to access the absolute TL post # for this post. That number mod 9 is the random lynch. 1 =Oats, 2 = rayn, etc, all the way up to 8 = holyflare and 0 = sloosh.

The reason we use the absolute TL post number is that posts are constantly being made, so the number is truly random. We turn it into a number 1-9 by taking that number mod 9. What is mod? effectively, it's the remainder after division. For example. 10 mod 9 = 1. 11 mod 9 = 2. 18 mod 9 = 0. 19 mod 9 = 1. and so on.

Basically, this generates a random number 1 through 9. I am in favor of the random lynch (though am somewhat interested in a policy lynch today as well-- TL does not do this enough. I will start off by voting for the random lynched based on THIS POST.


In this case,
1 = BC
2 = Mattchew
3 = Sharrant
4 = VE

and so on

all the way up to...
30 = BH
0 = Oatsmaster

(since a multiple of 31 modulo 31 is 0, not 31).



Stopping here momentarily because I want to note just how awful this is as an entrance post over halway through d1

He made an equally "horrible" opening post in WHC. I'm not phased, and wondering why you are.


Risen, you quite clearly know that this wasn't the only post that BH did in WHC so why does it not phase you that his content thus far has been utterly appalling? BH in WHC was shaparoning, giving reads, solving things and eventually got us to lynch your scum partner. Does this really look like the same BH to you?






Hmm, HF why are you misconstruing my post? I was referring to a single BH post there. It phased yamato, didn't phase me. Why are you indirectly defending yamato here? Do you know he's town? Are you scum?



Well I read through the thread and then through your filter and didn't realise you posted this before BH remained useless. Even so, have your thoughts on him devoloped since then? What I said still applies, a useless BH will always remain a useless BH. I'm just waiting tentatively for him to be the next target and then claim a role that must make us "save" him just like hogwarts (he was scum).



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@Onegu + Show Spoiler +
On November 17 2013 01:04 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 14:13 Holyflare wrote:
On November 16 2013 13:45 yamato77 wrote:
On November 16 2013 13:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 16 2013 13:37 yamato77 wrote:
On November 16 2013 13:35 VisceraEyes wrote:
Yamato reveal the secrets your masonry keeps hidden from the rest of us. TELL ME WHAT I WANT TO KNOW ABOUT LONEMEOW!!!

he wants to know what I think about rayn

i haven't really invested much time paying attention to rayn

That usually pays out in the end man. Is that it? Like, just asking you about rayn? Do you think he's town or scum based on your interactions?

there's not much to base it off of

honestly, with how super and I talked about it earlier, I think LM is town and it's not worth fretting over



I honestly have no idea how this argument keeps getting used IN FAVOUR of LM. He's contributed jack shit, his only posts in the mason chat are asking what yamato thinks about rayn. This is 100% LM that I saw in hogwarts when he was scum. He comes into the QT, asks what he should do with his power and asks who he should focus on. His power got used on conveniently the most towny person at the start of the game without reading.... despite him knowing the playstyles of other people (both factions) whereas he only knows one playstyle of yamato's, his reason for doing it? He picked a random person on the player list.... His only participation in this thread is shock at storrzerg being new/not new. Congratulations, he's in the background again.

As far as this little gem that I've seen:

On November 16 2013 12:49 Risen wrote:
On November 16 2013 12:48 yamato77 wrote:
On November 16 2013 08:58 Blazinghand wrote:
Hey so before we go all pant-head here I will upgrade to sock-head and push for an RNG lynch

So here's what happens

1) you elect me mayor

2) I will lynch the guy via RNG as determined by this post (the one you're reading right now)'s post count modulo 31. Since so many people are posting at once on TL it's impossible for us to know what's going down. I've done this before. It works.

For RNG, this post will be used for generating a random lynch. The # in the upper left corner can be right-clicked and used to access the absolute TL post # for this post. That number mod 9 is the random lynch. 1 =Oats, 2 = rayn, etc, all the way up to 8 = holyflare and 0 = sloosh.

The reason we use the absolute TL post number is that posts are constantly being made, so the number is truly random. We turn it into a number 1-9 by taking that number mod 9. What is mod? effectively, it's the remainder after division. For example. 10 mod 9 = 1. 11 mod 9 = 2. 18 mod 9 = 0. 19 mod 9 = 1. and so on.

Basically, this generates a random number 1 through 9. I am in favor of the random lynch (though am somewhat interested in a policy lynch today as well-- TL does not do this enough. I will start off by voting for the random lynched based on THIS POST.


In this case,
1 = BC
2 = Mattchew
3 = Sharrant
4 = VE

and so on

all the way up to...
30 = BH
0 = Oatsmaster

(since a multiple of 31 modulo 31 is 0, not 31).



Stopping here momentarily because I want to note just how awful this is as an entrance post over halway through d1

He made an equally "horrible" opening post in WHC. I'm not phased, and wondering why you are.


Risen, you quite clearly know that this wasn't the only post that BH did in WHC so why does it not phase you that his content thus far has been utterly appalling? BH in WHC was shaparoning, giving reads, solving things and eventually got us to lynch your scum partner. Does this really look like the same BH to you?








Im going to address two things here first my take on LM and second HF take on LM and his condridiction of his own words.

First you say LM has contributed jackshit, and while this is true it is not alignment indicative of LM, he lurks and doesnt do much as either alignment. Second you say what he did in hogwarts scum qt, so why in this game do you think he wouldnt do the same thing? Or do you think he did the same thing and his scummates told him to mason yamato one of the better scumhunters on the site? Also LM doesnt say he rng, he picked a person without haveing a read on them so he picked someone he knew, this is all townie things to do.

HF how can you call LM scummy for this, but in your own post say LM asks his scummates what he should do with his powers.


The only way I could even slightly see this as being from a scum LM, is if LM and Yamato are scum together and this is a play for towncred. But this is very unlikely. And from your post I dont think that is how you see this. You are just trying to make LM look bad.



I think you have misunderstood what I was saying with the entirety of my LM posts. I am not calling him scummy and I am not calling him town, he is a big fat null read. The sentiment on the thread, especially being repeated by yamato over and over again when people bring up LM's name was that he was town purely because of the way he had masoned. This was making me sick because that flat out rules out the alternative - the stuff that he did last game.

People may not have seen hogwarts and don't know what happened and thus blindly accepted what yamato says as logical and probably truthful when in actual fact what I said can also apply and thusly LM should not be a town read to ANYONE at all.

You have misconstrued and misread many of the things I have said all game, which I will be happy to detail my thought process on if you need me to. In regards to mattchew, I'm not sure you did read my filter properly. I was scouring through the game - rereading like I said - and his posts struck me as non-mattchewesque. So I dug a little deeper and made a case on him. As his database games are older ones I therefore asked if anyone knows how he plays scum, and questioned people that were present at the time of that post. I still think he is scummy disregarding any meta at all but he is also a lurker and therefore my attention to him became wasted and so I ended the discussion till he returned - which he actively did not.



______________________________________________________________________________________

Sorry had this lying here for ages, I am caught up though and i'm comfortable with VE being mayor or maybe even pardoner for now. Even if his targets are all lurkers I feel he will be more useful later in the game too and deserves the vest. Yamato I am not so sure about as pardoner though, I'd be more comfortable with someone else there until I re-read over his posts. I got the feel he was too brash about some of his town reads.



Im not quite sure how you are saying you had a null read on LM. It looks alot more like you say he is playing exactly like his scum game, which im my mind equates to you calling him scum. And I have already quoted all of the relevant mattchew posts, not sure how you say I am misrepresenting you. If you would like to point out IN DETAIL how I am doing so I am willing to reconsider. But now I am still confident in my scum read of you.

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