EPTRisen, given all this other discussion on the matter now, I'm still interested in what scumrisen does assuming that town chooses a mayor who clearly articulates his D1 lynch, and chooses to make the mayor's D1 lynch 2nd in votes, so as to off the pardoner.
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Risen, given all this other discussion on the matter now, I'm still interested in what scumrisen does assuming that town chooses a mayor who clearly articulates his D1 lynch, and chooses to make the mayor's D1 lynch 2nd in votes, so as to off the pardoner. | ||
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On November 15 2013 13:16 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Zees is why I ask him ze questions. We're in agreement here. I have a tentative read, but want to shore it up slightly.Austin I want to see sharrant post more before I make a judgement on him. | ||
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Let us play a game! (1) On November 16 2013 00:27 Onegu wrote: rayn has made and super duper duper pushed a case and suspicion on HolyFlare. He has been pestered about it, and pestered others about it.First off I disagree with this, a town and scum rayn both are this way, check out persona 4 mafia and rayns attack on WoS D1, he was town that game. The biggest dif imo for scum and town rayn is you can normally tell is rayn believes his case or not. You have to look at that, once he starts to tunnel onto someone you have to ask him questions and call him out and you should be able to get a read on him. I was thinking about why I started to tunnel him so hard in witchcraft and I figured out this was the reason. Also he isnt quite as active as scum, but this isnt as accurate. With regards to nothing but his bit on HolyFlare, how do you read rayn? (2) Why do HolyFlare's posts on Mattchew bother you? You say he asks the thread for opinions without providing any of his own, and he's pulling Mattchew's name out of the blue. I ... disagree with a good bit of that statement, and I want to figure out where we diverge. Specifically, you 100% don't feel HF gave thoughts on Mattchew when asking about Mattchew? Also, if I read your post right, someone coming to thread and bringing up a specific person who is NOT a current topic of discussion is a scummy thing? Could you explain why this is so, or why it's sometimes so? | ||
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YES. YES WE ARE. AND YOU ARE LYNCHED NOW, GOOD DAY. CONGRATULATIONS, YOUR MASTER PLAN HAS PAID OFF. <3 | ||
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Scummy, townie, things that make you draw connections, whatever two or three things really caught your eye and influenced a read. | ||
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On November 16 2013 10:08 VisceraEyes wrote: kaustinmcc I want you to stare deep and long into the filter of Pandain and tell me why I should NOT lynch him with the fury of a thousand suns. On November 16 2013 10:10 StorrZerg wrote: who is slam? Alakaslam | ||
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But I know you've written a decent bit about rayn. Could you talk a little more here? On November 16 2013 05:06 Koshi wrote: I like the point, and I get what you're saying, but is this just a gut feeling that he's talking about you but not with you? Or is this a specific thing that you have picked on in past scum games of his, a scumrayn indicator?ctrl + f "Koshi" in rayn his filter. I get mentioned too many times but he doesn't interact with me at all. Except for the "Koshi why do you play so weird". Also, I am not impressed by rayn at all. His case on Holyflare is bad and he is not convincing anybody that Holyflare is scum. Also, you sort of maybe half-jokingly called vayne scum for pointing out you and rayn fighting. But...I put less than zero credence in that point you mentioned. Do you have any actual thoughts on vayne's play so far this game? | ||
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On November 16 2013 10:15 StorrZerg wrote: storrzerg, do you believe that people who troll help town win the game? If so, how? Do you believe that trolling creates a legible and easy-to-follow thread? If so, how?This is also pretty convenient to not provide actual scum reads when running for mayor. And when your lynch flips town "well he was trolling so good lynch anyway" becomes acceptable. I can't agree with this Should you answer no to those two questions, why is a person who is trolling not a good lynch? | ||
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He halfway buddies you pretty hard early on. Defends you as dodgy, calls you a sexy beast, etc. etc. I have not played a D1 with Pandain I don't think, but at least from Magical Cop Sandwich mafia, I do not remember him really buddying up to any townies in that manner as scum. He doesn't appear to actually be winning points with you, nobody has actually been appointed mayor, and while you were vocal and semi-leaderish at the start of the thread, I don't see much cause for him to put that buddying in thread if he's scum. It's too obvious for my tastes? I think his mason claim is BS. Which is mildly mildly townie, as the real reason to fake claim would be to draw shots and be an asshat because you're going to screw up other mason claims and might encourage other masons to claim if they see Yamato's post and Pandain's post and think Pandain is srs. So apparently I find it mildly townie even though it doesn't actually help town at all and if Pandain wanted to draw shots he should be posting. There's not a boatload else there. I don't really care that his posts are grack-focused, it would have been EASIER to focus a very vocal target today like rayn/holyflare, and would have been much townier to really nitpick at someone way out of the spotlight (mebbe). The grack focus does nothing for me either way. On November 15 2013 10:06 Pandain wrote: What led you to find Sharrant's post scummy? What do you get off the rest of Sharrant's posts?You can think that's useless but I think this is more useless I think hopeless and this guy are scum so far. Early reads so don't hound me too much, but those are my thoughts. | ||
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On November 16 2013 10:28 StorrZerg wrote: Pretend you're not in this game. We just landed on the moon, and we're scooting about in our lunar rover. Also, it has racing stripes.Lynch people who you legitimately believe are scum. I also like lynching useless people who in no way can help town. ( i can see trolls being on that list from bc) Previous game i played was Majority lynch, so a big focus from town me was making sure we actually got a lynch off. I ended up pushing a town that i felt was useless and felt mafia. In a game where we have someone to be a mayor, i find those reasons very poor. Specially since a big reason we are going to vote for a mayor is because they are providing good reads and scum hunting. "not claiming to lynch trolls as their scum hunt" I turn to you and I ask, "Hey, remember that game called mafia? And remember how people trolled in it? Do you think trolling helped town win the game? Do you think trolls created a legible and easy-to-read thread?" We're on the moon, not in this game. You gotta give me truthful Moon Answers. | ||
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On November 16 2013 10:36 VisceraEyes wrote: I have never played with LoneMeow. This is the game where he was scum with Palmar and SnB, with the other scumteam of Solstice/Cheese/ChairMan Ray. COP SANDWICH MAFIA VE, come on.He hard defended LoneMeow in that game didn't he? Like, as we were stringing the dude up? What's even "mildly mildly" townie about him fakeclaiming mason? Even as a townie that's the most ridiculous thing ever, because it's a confirmable role. When he claimed that, people are gonna be like "Who did Pandain mason?" every day he lives until he comes clean = he's almost certainly a mason. The question is whether he's a town mason or a scum mason. We already have another semi-confirmed mason in LoneMeow. As you said, if he wanted to draw shots he could be posting. He's not doing anything. Apparently not even masoning because apparently he hasn't chosen anyone to mason yet. The mildly mildly townie thing comes from me thinking he's not really a mason. If he's actually a mason, then my reason for assigning mildly townie points (town has SLIGHT reason to fakeclaim mason EXCEPT THAT IT SCREWS OVER EVERYONE ELSE while scum have less/no reason (possibly draw out other claims, but...please dear god people don't be that stupid)). If you want MORE, or you want him to post on people named NOTGRACK, then coo. That's a good idea for him. But off just what he has, I'm not getting big hints of scumminess. | ||
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On November 16 2013 10:36 StorrZerg wrote: No. You told me what criteria should be used for lynches, what happened in a past game and how you acted, and upon what a mayor should base his mayoral lynch. (HAHA. NOT GONNA END THAT SENTENCE WITH A PREPOSITION. CAUGHT IT!)i answered your question previously about trolls and where i feel they fit into this game... so yes i find your question regarding trolls and moons pointless. and now we are just cluttering the thread up with more useless crap. Whereas my questions weren't game-specific. I was asking about trolling in general, and whether you find it to help town or help create a legible thread, and if so, why. I don't care what other people think or how anyone has played in any game, I care what the little storrzerg deep deep down in your heart of hearts thinks about trolls in mafia games. For reference, here were the answers you gave: + Show Spoiler + On November 16 2013 10:28 StorrZerg wrote: Lynch people who you legitimately believe are scum. I also like lynching useless people who in no way can help town. ( i can see trolls being on that list from bc) Previous game i played was Majority lynch, so a big focus from town me was making sure we actually got a lynch off. I ended up pushing a town that i felt was useless and felt mafia. In a game where we have someone to be a mayor, i find those reasons very poor. Specially since a big reason we are going to vote for a mayor is because they are providing good reads and scum hunting. "not claiming to lynch trolls as their scum hunt" | ||
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On November 16 2013 10:45 Alakaslam wrote: Yes! That is the other name for it. I now have it in my head as Cop Sandwich Mafia, and will probably keep referring to it as variants of that name.When you say "cop sandwich mafia" do you mean thug life austin | ||
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On November 16 2013 10:36 Koshi wrote: Okeedoke, thanks. You had them as their correct alignments in Sandwich Cops in the 21st Century Mafia so I wanted to ask about your reads on them here. Plox to say if they do anything super curious and nobody else sees it.It comes down to this. He gave me a slight townread early on and then out of nowhere he goes "Koshi why are you playing so weird" after I made a case on supersoft I think. While we love to scumhunt together and he went from town to scum on me without even trying to talk to me and check me out. I am pretty sure that the easiest way for him to read me is to interact with me. But he refuses to do it except a bit earlier in which he calls me scum... Nha, rayn is scum for me. Vayne tried to be cute so I was cute as well. | ||
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On November 16 2013 10:46 VisceraEyes wrote: I prefer not to think about the third claimer that game.Triple Cop Claim Caper VE, in late exchange for my Pandain thoughts, I would ask you to look at these two points, within the context of when they were written, and tell me if you think anything neat about Onegu just based on these. On November 16 2013 01:31 Onegu wrote: I disagree with this post all the way. A calm relaxed town is much better than a rattled unhappy town as it interfers with thier ability to think rational thoughts and posts. For super to use this as a reson for his attitude feels scummy, if he just said this is how I play deal with it, I would feel better about him. + Show Spoiler + On November 16 2013 02:12 Onegu wrote: Also rayn I dont like how HF doesnt give many hard raeds on his own, but asks people for thier thoughts on them. Here he makes a very small point on hopelesses first post. And that his contributions are useless. Then he tells Mattchew he should look into hopeless because he has played with him in Hogwarts He doesnt add anything. At this point Hopeless filter is very short and no where near a hot button topic so why have mattchew take a closer look at him. Then out of no where comes HF asking the thread about mattchew when HF hasnt talked about mattchew yet. Then again he asks Mattchew for his thoughts on hopeless which he only talked about one time, and rayn. He hasnt added anything to the discussion but continues to just ask peoples opinion. Without adding anything to the discussion he tries to look active by just asking questions. | ||
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I guess...how you feel about those posts? Does either scream either alignment to you? They just do very different things for me, and I want to poke at him about it, but also see if anyone else gets anything from them. | ||
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On November 16 2013 11:08 Alakaslam wrote: My interest isNow gimme those pandain thoughts. Heheh Well I will say ONEGU is the very first SVENGALI so I will not read him as of yet. Now no more assery. I am interested, does anyone have any interest in the Blazinghand proposal for mayor, coupled with VayneAuthority's response? I have listed my thoughts and I am not sure whether I think either is scum. NO That's where I am right now. I don't think I'm going to move from that being my opinion. BH has not done anything to make me want him as mayor over anyone else that's decent this game, and so even if people want to keep touting the idea of a RNG lynch, the better option is to choose a non-BH mayor and have them do it, even if the person is just going to lynch VA. | ||
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