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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9695 Posts
November 15 2013 17:20 GMT
#1020
On November 16 2013 02:16 Grackaroni wrote:
Also I tried to be polite earlier but anybody treating Storrzerg as a veteran is a fool.



I agree but defending for being a noob is almost the same damn thing.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9695 Posts
November 16 2013 05:58 GMT
#1428
Go to sleep wake up and ready to play, and Im 20 pages behind. Ok Im reading now.
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Profile Blog Joined May 2010
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November 16 2013 10:25 GMT
#1474
I went to the mall and watched enders game, I am reading now while my wife shops for clothes. Also if you want to know the reason skanjabs is scum, its because I rolled town this game.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9695 Posts
November 16 2013 10:31 GMT
#1477
I went to the mall and watched enders game, I am reading now while my wife shops for clothes. Also if you want to know the reason skanjabs is scum, its because I rolled town this game.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9695 Posts
November 16 2013 11:10 GMT
#1496
On November 16 2013 07:19 Risen wrote:
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On November 15 2013 23:48 Onegu wrote:
Ok Im on page 31 had to play with my son in between reading. First impressions of things that have so far stuck out to me.


I miss the old alakaslam :/ he just like a regular player now... Maybe thats a good thing. The whole VE thing I dont have good grip on the situation but I think people are overblowing his thoughts. Supersoft is who I am more concerned with while reading. I have been paying attention to rayns posts and nothing is sticking out as scum to me, but that was the same day one in witchcraft, I then saw something day two and his responses are what made me jump on him that game. Yamato is looking fairly townie at the moment. I was ok ish with HF mayor post, seeing it was prewritten makes me feel nothing one way or the other. Still reading if I see anything else I will respond. Again I go by feel with my reads.

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On November 16 2013 00:05 Onegu wrote:
Oh and slam is town, unless while he was gone he was playing on another site. I dont see a scum slam comeing in here and being all legible and open like he is. Second I dont like grack and his defense of storrzerg. First storrzerg doesnt need it and the way grack is doing it saying he is just out of newbie games is giving off warning bells to me.

Huh?



Its the same thing...

Slam was a uber spammer who posted 30 youtube videos and random MS paints, or pics of his dinner. Then he requested a ban and this is his firat game back. And this game he came in with thought and reason and not just spam, because of this I gave him a town read.
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Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9695 Posts
November 16 2013 11:40 GMT
#1500
On November 16 2013 09:56 austinmcc wrote:
Onegu
Let us play a game!

(1)
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On November 16 2013 00:27 Onegu wrote:
On November 15 2013 19:11 OOHCHILD wrote:
The question was What makes rayne scummy imo?

For me it's mostly it's that his tone fits with his scum meta. It's aggressive and mean.
His town play from what I've seen is also very characteristic and I'm not seeing it here.

Last game I played he was scum. He also did the very quick reads without reason thing he did this game "ve is town, oats is dumb"
Yea I'm on my phone and I can't quote.

He said he was ignoring risen. I don't see town rayne doing that. Town rayne is constantly struggling to figure out everyone's alignments.



First off I disagree with this, a town and scum rayn both are this way, check out persona 4 mafia and rayns attack on WoS D1, he was town that game. The biggest dif imo for scum and town rayn is you can normally tell is rayn believes his case or not. You have to look at that, once he starts to tunnel onto someone you have to ask him questions and call him out and you should be able to get a read on him. I was thinking about why I started to tunnel him so hard in witchcraft and I figured out this was the reason. Also he isnt quite as active as scum, but this isnt as accurate.
rayn has made and super duper duper pushed a case and suspicion on HolyFlare. He has been pestered about it, and pestered others about it.

With regards to nothing but his bit on HolyFlare, how do you read rayn?

(2) Why do HolyFlare's posts on Mattchew bother you? You say he asks the thread for opinions without providing any of his own, and he's pulling Mattchew's name out of the blue. I ... disagree with a good bit of that statement, and I want to figure out where we diverge. Specifically, you 100% don't feel HF gave thoughts on Mattchew when asking about Mattchew? Also, if I read your post right, someone coming to thread and bringing up a specific person who is NOT a current topic of discussion is a scummy thing? Could you explain why this is so, or why it's sometimes so?



Ok lets play, first on rayn. From his tunnel here on HF I think he feels he found scum and isnt just messing around, therefor he is town.

Second give me a moment to pull up relevant posts.
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Onegu
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United States9695 Posts
November 16 2013 12:05 GMT
#1501
On November 15 2013 12:54 Holyflare wrote:
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On November 15 2013 12:54 Mattchew wrote:
VE who shoudl i look at?


Hopeless. You played with him in hogwarts. What is your take on him this game?



Here is the first time he mentions or talks to mattchew.


On November 15 2013 14:13 Holyflare wrote:
Can someone give me their take on mattchew please? I'm having a hard time untangling his posts.

Like.... it's all crap, he even asked on who he should look into and didn't end up doing that but also posts something like:

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On November 15 2013 12:47 Mattchew wrote:
Yam and mocsta are town but i dont agree with Mocsta's case on Storr. I saw his conclusion, read storrs filter for myself, then read his case, and reconsidered but was not swayed into putting storr anywhere but neutral. Storr is going to play different, because he comes from a different type of mafia. Mocsta sometimes equivocates different to scum
.

Mattchew, what is your take on hopeless and rayn? I know you've now played with both because of hogwarts so what is your view on them at this present time?

________________________________________________________

For everyone else, much like grack, mattchew came out of the woodwork to post a point relating to mocsta/storr and apart from that has really added nothing. His other "content" is just calling people town etc. He makes the effort to "read" the filter of one player but has no evidence of that for any other player, despite many being mentioned in the game. Would you be comfortable lynching this way, because I would.



Followed 2 posts later by this. He cannot get a good read on him and all his posts are crap. And then gives a dumb reason for wanting to lynch him, when mattchew wasnt the only person doing this.

Then he links 2 town games and a scum game adds very little meta reads while asking what does a scum matt look like.

And then again.

On November 15 2013 14:37 Holyflare wrote:
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On November 15 2013 14:35 Alakaslam wrote:

he has taken up the position as the leader of RNG lynches ever since the downfall of Palmar. Now quit changing the subject you silly Alaskan lamb; where can we find this scum remover and can you be more flexible on price?

You can get it from deep CHUPAZI, I am not sure what they would charge

I troll no further albeit tempting

Not actually sure if I can deliver on that promise



Your take on mattchew please? Also I want to hear more opinions on rayn, don't want to let him pass unchecked.



Asking for more thoughts.

On November 15 2013 14:47 Holyflare wrote:
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On November 15 2013 14:42 Grackaroni wrote:
On November 15 2013 14:37 Holyflare wrote:
On November 15 2013 14:35 Alakaslam wrote:

he has taken up the position as the leader of RNG lynches ever since the downfall of Palmar. Now quit changing the subject you silly Alaskan lamb; where can we find this scum remover and can you be more flexible on price?

You can get it from deep CHUPAZI, I am not sure what they would charge

I troll no further albeit tempting

Not actually sure if I can deliver on that promise



Your take on mattchew please? Also I want to hear more opinions on rayn, don't want to let him pass unchecked.

The games you quoted are both over a year old; Play styles can change a lot over time. His recent play in Hogwarts also did not match either of the town games you listed as meta, yet he was town in that game.



I disagree with you:

here is his filter for hogwarts: click me!

while yes, there are singular lines, there is also hefty content at parts just like the town games I linked, albeit this game is still early so it's justifiable for the near future, I want to hear more from him because right now I think it falls more in line with his scum game (even if it is old)


Either way he is not around to defend himself and so I'll move elsewhere for now.


He gets a response and this is his reply. I have a few problems with this post also.

First he doesnt add any substance, he adds more meta and then he even says the meta he adds is old. There are zero recent scum games for HF to compare, so there is no way HF should be going after Mattchew with OLD meta reasons.

So HF barely mentions mattchew, then he asks for others opinions. Gives a small reason of matt is posting one liners and giveing out town reads so he should be lynched. Then asking more people for mattchew thoughts, posting outdated meta arguements. Holyflare never actually makes a case on mattchew other than what I have said, but is ok with mattchew being lynched. Then HF never mentions Mattchew again. Although he dis have his hands full with rayn.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9695 Posts
November 16 2013 12:12 GMT
#1502
Im still walking around the mall and posting as I see things in thread.

Also I am serious you guys should vote me for mayor. That way the assassians bullets cant hit me.


Just jokeing about the assassian thing, or am I !?!? But serious about the vote for me part.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9695 Posts
November 16 2013 12:30 GMT
#1506
On November 16 2013 10:29 austinmcc wrote:
VE, assorted Pandain thoughts.

He halfway buddies you pretty hard early on. Defends you as dodgy, calls you a sexy beast, etc. etc. I have not played a D1 with Pandain I don't think, but at least from Magical Cop Sandwich mafia, I do not remember him really buddying up to any townies in that manner as scum. He doesn't appear to actually be winning points with you, nobody has actually been appointed mayor, and while you were vocal and semi-leaderish at the start of the thread, I don't see much cause for him to put that buddying in thread if he's scum. It's too obvious for my tastes?

I think his mason claim is BS. Which is mildly mildly townie, as the real reason to fake claim would be to draw shots and be an asshat because you're going to screw up other mason claims and might encourage other masons to claim if they see Yamato's post and Pandain's post and think Pandain is srs. So apparently I find it mildly townie even though it doesn't actually help town at all and if Pandain wanted to draw shots he should be posting.

There's not a boatload else there. I don't really care that his posts are grack-focused, it would have been EASIER to focus a very vocal target today like rayn/holyflare, and would have been much townier to really nitpick at someone way out of the spotlight (mebbe). The grack focus does nothing for me either way.


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On November 15 2013 10:06 Pandain wrote:
You can think that's useless but I think this is more useless

On November 15 2013 09:01 Sharrant wrote:
While it would be very, very entertaining to elect Kush as the mayor, that's definitely a no.

Not comfortable with Yamato as mayor.

Of the people who have posted I would vote VE, aside from him the only other two people I would think about voting at this point haven't posted (Supersoft and BC).

On November 15 2013 08:43 Coagulation wrote:
when I won mayor as scum even after I lynched a scum mate to try and cover my ass VE raped me in the butt . he penetrated deep. I still walk funny to this day and have an irrational fear of political power.


I could die right now, and I would still consider this a great game because of this post.



I think hopeless and this guy are scum so far. Early reads so don't hound me too much, but those are my thoughts.
What led you to find Sharrant's post scummy? What do you get off the rest of Sharrant's posts?





Ok before pandains claim most people put a town read on LM, with pandains claim does that change the read on LM in others peoples eye. To be honest depending on pandains read on LM is how alignmemt dependent his claim is. And since we dont know pandains read on LM then his claim should be neautral, but I could see it comeing more from scum than town tbh if the claim is real. First for town there is no reason to claim before chooseing your mason partner. If the claim is fakw then I can see it being slightly townie to have people look closer at LM.


Tldr;

Real: null to slight scum

Fake: null to slight town
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9695 Posts
November 16 2013 12:32 GMT
#1507
On November 16 2013 21:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
My nickname is not Artanix[Xp]


Is it Art?
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9695 Posts
November 16 2013 12:39 GMT
#1512
On November 16 2013 21:33 marvellosity wrote:
There are 23 townies, 6 mafia, and 2 assassins.




I R Dissapoint in UR rng, I wrote pre game I was to roll scum.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9695 Posts
November 16 2013 12:45 GMT
#1513
On November 16 2013 21:34 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
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On November 16 2013 21:32 Onegu wrote:
On November 16 2013 21:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
My nickname is not Artanix[Xp]


Is it Art?

It's Artanis the sexy handsome amazing good looking hero of towniness.
What do you make of BC?



I am still catching up on the thread slowly Mr. Artanis the sexy handsome amazing good looking hero of towniness, but first impressions were slightly town. But tbh I plan on filter diving all the "vets" when I am back home and can sit down and try to get a good idea on all of them.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9695 Posts
November 16 2013 12:46 GMT
#1514
And will give all my reads in detail when Im back home also.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9695 Posts
November 16 2013 12:50 GMT
#1515
On November 16 2013 10:31 austinmcc wrote:
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On November 16 2013 10:28 StorrZerg wrote:
On November 16 2013 10:21 austinmcc wrote:
VE, pandain stuff coming.

On November 16 2013 10:15 StorrZerg wrote:
On November 16 2013 02:09 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On November 16 2013 02:05 Skanjab1s wrote:
On November 16 2013 02:02 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On November 16 2013 02:01 Skanjab1s wrote:
On November 16 2013 01:46 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On November 16 2013 01:43 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
BC would you like to be mayor?

Also what do you think of Skan?

Skan atm is a null read for me but he has said some really dumbass shit. Its not alignment indicative but if he keeps it up he will shift from null to red.

He is leaning scum on two of my strongest town reads currently for no real reason on either.


You should find better townreads then.


or you should be less bad? See how this game is played. How about you give me some real scum reads now rather than terrible ones.


Says the guy who took a whole page to say that Grack likes to troll.


Go read my old games. You will notice my hatred of trolls is well founded, but I still read their posts as they tend to actually slip up. Trolling is never acceptable and the way he is doing it actively hurts the town. Trolling can still be done in a way that while annoying as shit benefits the town. He has done nothing that is good and all that is bad. Look at the way he does his trolling compared to the positive ways he could and you will notice my read is pretty well founded.


This is also pretty convenient to not provide actual scum reads when running for mayor. And when your lynch flips town "well he was trolling so good lynch anyway" becomes acceptable.

I can't agree with this

storrzerg, do you believe that people who troll help town win the game? If so, how? Do you believe that trolling creates a legible and easy-to-follow thread? If so, how?

Should you answer no to those two questions, why is a person who is trolling not a good lynch?


Lynch people who you legitimately believe are scum. I also like lynching useless people who in no way can help town. ( i can see trolls being on that list from bc)

Previous game i played was Majority lynch, so a big focus from town me was making sure we actually got a lynch off. I ended up pushing a town that i felt was useless and felt mafia.

In a game where we have someone to be a mayor, i find those reasons very poor. Specially since a big reason we are going to vote for a mayor is because they are providing good reads and scum hunting. "not claiming to lynch trolls as their scum hunt"
Pretend you're not in this game. We just landed on the moon, and we're scooting about in our lunar rover. Also, it has racing stripes.

I turn to you and I ask, "Hey, remember that game called mafia? And remember how people trolled in it? Do you think trolling helped town win the game? Do you think trolls created a legible and easy-to-read thread?"

We're on the moon, not in this game. You gotta give me truthful Moon Answers.



This post R teh WiN
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9695 Posts
November 16 2013 12:55 GMT
#1517
On November 16 2013 10:35 Alakaslam wrote:
It's amazing how many pages two players duking it out creates.

PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF CAREERS LIMIT ATTACKS AND DEFENSES TO 3 POSTS OR SPOILER YOUR CONFRONTATIONS. THEY REALLY MEAN NOTHING UNTIL WE FEEL LIKE CHECKING IT OUT. FILTER FILTER FILTER! ENOUGH BS INTIMIDATING LAZY TOWN, THIS IS A BIG GAME DONT BE SELFISH SOB OR @SCUM, HAHA I TROLL U BACK STFU NOW

I do this because almost page 100 day one

Here is an example for all the hotheads, press quote and read to see the formatting:

Show nested quote +

@Storrzerg
+ Show Spoiler +
Attack bs

Show nested quote +

@Bloodycobbler
+ Show Spoiler +
Defense bs



Yeah sorry slam since I am posting always from a tablet Im to lazy to do the work this entails so you will have to deal with it.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9695 Posts
November 16 2013 13:06 GMT
#1521
On November 16 2013 11:13 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 11:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 16 2013 11:06 austinmcc wrote:
Nah. They're so different in subject that I don't see one to the other as dropping supersoft.

I guess...how you feel about those posts? Does either scream either alignment to you? They just do very different things for me, and I want to poke at him about it, but also see if anyone else gets anything from them.

Well they both follow a similar theme of going with the flow. Like, people were coming out against supersoft's gruff aggression right? So he spoke up against that. Then rayn made a big post about HF and people were starting to get onboard with that, and he adds a couple of points to Rayn's post.

Ultimately though I'm not left with a good sense of what Onegu actually thinks about either one of them because of a lack of follow up on either of them.
Okay, that'll work. I asked some Qs to onegu but he hasn't come back, poke at him or remind me to poke at him about this stuff when he's on.



I plan on getting back to SS also, but it was really that one post that stuck out to me and him useing that as the reason to justify his actions didnt sit well with me.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9695 Posts
November 16 2013 13:13 GMT
#1523
Im all out of battery be back when Im home, im on page 66 now.
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Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9695 Posts
November 16 2013 13:15 GMT
#1524
On November 16 2013 22:10 Spaghetticus wrote:
Oh and, while I'm busy consolidating evidence, if people are free, could you please look into VE with a critical eye? I've concluded I don't want him for mayor.

@all people running for mayor
I intend on tearing VE down. I don't want yamato mayor if he's going to kill BC. While the election may seem fairly one-sided, I want to mix it up. If I am successful, this will provide you with opportunity to re-enter the running. Think about getting your shit together.



UNCORRUPTABLE FOR MAYOR LXIII
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Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9695 Posts
November 16 2013 14:08 GMT
#1544
On November 16 2013 23:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If Pandain does not mason me he is scum.


Lol <3 rayn
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Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9695 Posts
November 16 2013 14:19 GMT
#1551
I also dont like BH much this game, a trolling BH =Scum BH. And his rng lynch and just not doing much is reminding me of hogwarts.
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