• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 17:38
CET 23:38
KST 07:38
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview11Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info3herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational14SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview5RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jan 19-25): Bunny, Trigger, MaxPax win3Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win0BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion8Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets4$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)39
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft 2 Not at the Esports World Cup 2026 HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview Weekly Cups (Jan 19-25): Bunny, Trigger, MaxPax win Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational
Tourneys
$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) HomeStory Cup 28 KSL Week 85 OSC Season 13 World Championship $70 Prize Pool Ladder Legends Academy Weekly Open!
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
[A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 511 Temple of Rebirth The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 510 Safety Violation Mutation # 509 Doomsday Report
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Liquipedia.net NEEDS editors for Brood War Can someone share very abbreviated BW cliffnotes? BW General Discussion [ASL21] Potential Map Candidates
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 Azhi's Colosseum - Season 2 [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10
Strategy
Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Mobile Legends: Bang Bang Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Let's Get Creative–Video Gam…
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2263 users

TL Mafia LXIII: Time to Die - Page 2

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next All
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 18 2013 04:31 GMT
#2836
i dont know what my read of you is yet, but its leaning scum right now from how evasive you are being. A bunch of trackers flip and you can't be bothered to rethink whether BH is faking shit. I ask about information HE says he left with YOU and you're all, nah bro dont worry about it. dafuq
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 18 2013 04:35 GMT
#2838
@BC
SS' case on Oats looks good. SS reads like he might be drunk, but the conclusion still follows that Oats is suspicious.
I'd would have said Koshi looks bad pre-flips but thats changed on reread.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 18 2013 04:39 GMT
#2840
I'm awaiting his return to find out what his "track" results were.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 18 2013 04:47 GMT
#2843
Oats + someone I have yet to decide. I'm looking through VE's filter atm because I think a bunch of nk's were in his scumreads.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 18 2013 04:50 GMT
#2846
who the fuck said I'm being lazy right now? Yeah I dont have massive cases or solved the game but i've been more active in the past hour than the 72 preceding it.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 18 2013 04:52 GMT
#2852
On November 18 2013 13:50 Oatsmaster wrote:
Ok I can post for the next 4 hours or so.

VE cant play this good as scum.

I dont know what SS wants me to post. but thats basically how I play every game. Good job SS, you managed to show that I play consistently with my other games.

Also I like how nobody mentioned me until SS and suddenly Im everyones top scumread. Namely Pandain and Hopeless. Hopeless is the most scum.

wat
On November 18 2013 13:51 Oatsmaster wrote:
hopeless is scum 100%

Do tell.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 18 2013 04:57 GMT
#2859
On November 18 2013 13:55 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 13:33 thrawn2112 wrote:
BC you spent a lot of time digging into moc's filter and came away with basically only town reads. Is your conclusion that scum are probably people he didn't talk about?

And what do you make of this conversation between myself and hopeless? Idk wtf he is trying to accomplish


Very likely yes. He engages austin in personality 2 twice in very non confrontational posts then promptly ignores him for a few days. Anyone in the filter he partially interacted with and stress interacted with could potentially be red but it isn't a strong possibility.

I think hopeless needs to honestly step up and honestly contribute something of value. His response to me of 2 days worth of reading summarized on 3 people in two sentences is god fucking awful.

you'll recall i scummily cited "internet problems" and "the weekend" for inactivity excuses. I'm sorry I havent been furiously typing away making the be-all-end-all case of the century. Oats is full of shit and I wouldnt mind seeing thrawn flip atm. But thats rage and indignation talking, not a real scumread. I'm going back to filters.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 18 2013 04:58 GMT
#2860
EBWOP: rage and indignation at thrawn. Oats is scum. See SS' case for details.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 18 2013 05:02 GMT
#2866
On November 18 2013 14:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
Im sorry what hopeless? Why am I scum? Can you put it in your own words? A few sentences? And say how you are different from me.

I dont understand how Im full of shit. Explain that too.

Why am I scum? Explain that first please.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 18 2013 05:16 GMT
#2872
On November 18 2013 13:45 thrawn2112 wrote:
##unvote
##vote:hopeless1der



Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 18 2013 05:19 GMT
#2875
On November 18 2013 14:16 Oatsmaster wrote:
Actually hopeless, you ask VE for 'credentials' then immediately vote him after he says something like 'he has been mayor before and lynched scum'. What made you vote for VE?

I voted VE for the sake of voting someone and possibly drawing attention to get discussion. I wasnt planning to be afk the next day and it didnt really matter, because now is the first I've seen anyone mention it.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 18 2013 05:35 GMT
#2883
Oats the short version is you have so much filter and so little content. You don't seem to care.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 18 2013 16:12 GMT
#3137
On November 18 2013 16:19 Blazinghand wrote:
like i'm kind of amazed people took that seriously. I didn't get RBed or shot so clearly scum didn't believe me so I guess I fucked up that chance to be cool but like come on man you aren't telling me you actually thought that crumb made sense? ._.

Track results? I guess no one cares, and since BH still hasnt posted them I have to assume he doesn't have them.
##Vote: Blazinghand

@Austin if BH ends up claiming your actions correctly, you're the only one that can stop us from mislynching.

Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 18 2013 16:16 GMT
#3142
On November 19 2013 01:10 Oatsmaster wrote:
Isnt BC calling Grack town?

based on what precisely? The part where he continues to say Grack is scum? Or the part where people want to lynch BC for saying Grack is scum?

At any rate, I don't know BC's propensity to tunnel. I certainly don't know mocsta's meta, but assuming its true I come away thinking BC is town. He's also wrong about Grack, but I'd still say he's town.

Rayn, I'm not following how gaming the setup reveals scum.This better be good, I had you as town for trying to take control of the thread but now I feel you're pissing it away.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 18 2013 16:18 GMT
#3145
On November 19 2013 01:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 16:19 Blazinghand wrote:
like i'm kind of amazed people took that seriously. I didn't get RBed or shot so clearly scum didn't believe me so I guess I fucked up that chance to be cool but like come on man you aren't telling me you actually thought that crumb made sense? ._.

Actually this post makes no sense because BH here retracts from his tracker claim and in that case he can't possibly know if he was roleblocked or not. Soooo..

/dunked

Oh...okay yeah/ I thought he was saying "I have track results" but wouldnt give them.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 18 2013 16:57 GMT
#3180
On November 19 2013 01:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2013 01:54 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On November 19 2013 01:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So BC does not want mafia outed. check.


Explain how it outs mafia please.

Id agree that sure there are likely scum within the masons however we have

what? 7 or 8 at this point running around/confirmed by death?

How can you confirm that with 2 more names to the pool you have guarenteed mafia?

If VE gives me a certain name there is a pool of 3 people where there is 2 scum guaranteed. Of course this is not certain as i can't know what name he gives me but given what has been going on in this game i am pretty sure he will give just that name.

are these names magic? This is a normal game, how can you guarantee scum based on setup? Rayne this is ludicrous and needs to stop.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 18 2013 18:45 GMT
#3254
rayn....you know that spiderman cancer meme? Yeah, that.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 18 2013 19:15 GMT
#3265
Mig, is that just an errant thought or do you think VE is scummy for it? Look how many of his initial scumlist flipped town from this post:
+ Show Spoiler +
On November 16 2013 05:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
Random Musings: The Bus-Ride to Work

1) I envision a town in which I'm the mayor and Yamato is my Pardoner. Why? Because we get all the benefits of VE lynching scum on D1, in all likelihood getting shot N1 and all that jazz, and none of the pitfalls of having scum in the office of either Mayor OR Pardoner.

I know what you're thinking: "But VE! Surely you jest! Yamato has made it abundantly clear that he's not afraid of using the Pardoner role - he's clearly the worst candidate for it by far!"

I'll go on the record here (again) and explain my stance on the Pardoner role (again). The Pardoner mechanic is just another mechanic that town has at its disposal to get information and that scum has at its disposal to confound town. And while it's generally accepted logic that preventing a lynch, ANY lynch is a bad idea, I hesitate to say that the role is, strictly speaking, anti-town. Like, if you believe that Yamato is town then you have to believe that IF he uses the role, it will be for a reason that he has deemed pro-town. Maybe he's wrong, maybe he's right, maybe he's scum lying to your face - but you get just as much information from that action out of Yamato as you get from the flip of a player. It's not info you can take to the bank and lynch people over, but it's certainly info that you can use to help solve the game.

I'm not immediately repulsed by Yamato saying he's not afraid to use the power, and it gives me warm fuzzies about his alignment that he said it at all. I don't think he'll use the power all willy-nilly and I'm totally fine with him having it.

2) I will not be stating my lynch choice outright. I will give an array of candidates and will lynch into this list, but my actual target will remain unknown. I feel like in this way scum will be less inclined to help me along if my lynch choice is bad or oppose me if my lynch choice is good. It takes actionable info away from scum, but still allows town to get a feel for where I stand so they can choose to vote me or not. Right now (before catching up) that list is this:

Grackaroni, StorrZerg, Sharrant, and Skanjab1s

3) I'm reading over the thread after this post: I haven't caught up from when I left last night and a lot has happened. If I miss a question directed at me or something just bear with me and ask it again.

4) There was a limited amount of venom and hatred in the thread at the time I left. There was a lot of aggravation and frustration but that's to be expected, but a fairly small amount of actual general poor behavior. I liked that and I hope that it continues through my readthrough of the thread and beyond.

[/muse]

Actual content to follow. Stay tuned.



The NK's make VE look so bad, there is no way hes scum to me.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 18 2013 19:32 GMT
#3273
HF being afk gives me pause, but I'm one to talk about inactivty, right? Your case isnt the greatest on him rayne. My read hasnt really changed, I have HF as town right now.
Super is town atm. For stupid reasons that will get me laughed at. Everyone is yelling that he's too mean, and all of a sudden his posts are full of smilies and shit. I read his Oats case and was like wtf is he drunk?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 19 2013 18:54 GMT
#3688
I see rayne just put up a case on Pandain...I've also got one, so I'll just spoiler it because its long, and likely full of confirmation bias.
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
HomeStory Cup
12:00
Day 3
Clem vs ShoWTimE
TaKeTV4771
ComeBackTV 1803
IndyStarCraft 405
TaKeSeN 334
CosmosSc2 114
EnkiAlexander 78
Rex77
3DClanTV 64
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
IndyStarCraft 425
ProTech122
CosmosSc2 114
Rex 77
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 1921
EffOrt 331
Mini 295
Shuttle 205
Dewaltoss 87
ggaemo 82
NaDa 14
Dota 2
Gorgc8668
febbydoto18
canceldota16
League of Legends
JimRising 428
Counter-Strike
byalli818
minikerr5
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor408
Other Games
tarik_tv14222
gofns10434
FrodaN6496
Grubby3451
Liquid`RaSZi2462
B2W.Neo860
Mlord668
Liquid`Hasu231
KnowMe161
Livibee86
ToD63
ArmadaUGS42
Organizations
Other Games
EGCTV1509
gamesdonequick1298
BasetradeTV62
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 20 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 65
• Hupsaiya 36
• Response 1
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Migwel
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 25
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21021
• WagamamaTV462
League of Legends
• Doublelift5151
• imaqtpie2840
• TFBlade1286
Other Games
• Shiphtur227
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
1h 23m
Replay Cast
1d 1h
Wardi Open
1d 13h
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
The PondCast
3 days
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-01-31
OSC Championship Season 13
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Acropolis #4 - TS4
Rongyi Cup S3
HSC XXVIII
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W7
Escore Tournament S1: W8
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.