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Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 26 2013 17:19 GMT
#6617
On November 27 2013 02:18 Koshi wrote:
What I said made perfect sense.

It sure did, because I'm town and I'm going to flip town.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 26 2013 17:23 GMT
#6620
Yeah, just like I wanted to lynch Mocsta for his. In case you hadn't noticed making TL towns better is kind of a priority for me. I'll believe nothing was there after Pandain flips. Until then I see someone openly calling another person a liar in thread knowing it could get them lynched. I don't even remember voting for slam.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 26 2013 17:24 GMT
#6621
On November 27 2013 02:21 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2013 02:19 Risen wrote:
On November 27 2013 02:18 Koshi wrote:
What I said made perfect sense.

It sure did, because I'm town and I'm going to flip town.

You do realize I said the same thing about you flipping mafia right?

You said if risen flips scum and then when risen flips town. Big difference there.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 26 2013 17:39 GMT
#6625
On November 27 2013 02:29 Mig wrote:
Huge difference just like hunting for scum or hunting scum. Lynch Koshi.

But to be serious jumping on scum slips is obviously lazy and poor play and something mafia often times does so they don't have to actually try and figure out why their target is scummy. The slips are usually just a poor choice of words, if you want me to believe koshi is scum then make a case showing why.


Fair enough.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 26 2013 19:12 GMT
#6638
I hated Chrono Trigger :/
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 26 2013 20:06 GMT
#6650
Yeah that slip by koshi will look a lot worse once I flip. I'm a little confused as to why I'm like the 100% lynch here, but I can dig the must remove wifom bomb argument. It just feels weird to get lynched solely off that (and some really weird reasoning from two days ago during the double lynch) when someone like Koshi can know my alignment and then offer a half assed justification for the slip.

Then again that's what I'd say as scum. I think the difference between town and scum risen is that scum risen is much better at finding scum than town risen.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 26 2013 20:06 GMT
#6651
On November 27 2013 05:03 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2013 04:54 Holyflare wrote:
On November 27 2013 04:38 Koshi wrote:
Holyflare. Only mafia is mad atm.


I'm not gonna let this run like WHC where we just afk lynched for 3 days straight and ended up losing because everyone thought we had scum. If we're wrong about people then mafia just has this in the bag....

I shall make cases tomorrow. Big ones. To confirm town and shizzle.
We all should. But I shall.

Add a "knows he'll be alive tomorrow" nitpick.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 26 2013 22:31 GMT
#6660
Haha Koshi I'll do the one for one with you and I'll even volunteer to go first! How does that sound?

[image loading]
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 26 2013 22:37 GMT
#6661
Pro-tip: I'm getting lynched anyways it's a poisonous offer
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 26 2013 23:38 GMT
#6668
"I volunteer as tribute" sorry about the confusion thought it had text on it when I grabbed it lol
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 27 2013 01:17 GMT
#6698
Killed him because it makes me look the worst. Anywho, let's get this out of the way

##vote: risen

Time to discuss what happens when I flip town.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 27 2013 04:32 GMT
#6748
On November 27 2013 13:11 Grackaroni wrote:
Screw the chrono trigger! I think we should all discuss how scummy Risen is again

I'd be down for this happening.

I think I can sum up the case against me, tell me if I did well

1) doesn't care about the game
2) martyr
3) avoided BC lynch
4) AFK'd yesterday when he was in the lead in votes and didn't support the Thrawn lynch
5) wifom bomb needs to be removed
6) promised cases and didn't deliver them... twice?
7) ^wow that's super scummy
8) 360noscopelynch

Did I miss anything? All of it points to town Risen, imo... which is sad and I should probably work on that.

Anywho, why was Koshi shot? Couldn't be just to troll me. Scum knows I'm just waiting to get lynched so I can focus 100% on PYP, so why? Couldn't be to make me look worse, I already look bad. So my guess is it was to throw people off. I say just ignore it. I say focus on the people who defended me as town and changed somehow due to my not posting.

I'm saying let's discuss austinmcc and VayneAuthority ((and whoever else I missed))
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 27 2013 04:37 GMT
#6749
Dang, what happened to my play after day 1? Oh...

+ Show Spoiler +

On November 21 2013 13:54 Risen wrote:
Gonna go get laid, fellow nerds. Try to learn how to play the game while I'm out. If you don't I won't be bothered/surprised. I'm town this game so... yeah. PEACE

Also, I think I might be the only VT in this game with all the power flying around me.


On November 21 2013 18:40 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 14:49 austinmcc wrote:
On November 21 2013 14:45 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On November 21 2013 14:39 Holyflare wrote:
On November 20 2013 08:03 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On November 20 2013 07:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 20 2013 07:55 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On November 20 2013 07:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
BC would you lynch Austin next?


He looks terrible. If he doesn't pull out anything by day 3, then yes, Id be inclined to lynch him. However, im willing to give him the benefit of the doubt until then. Hes not at the top of my list of scum.

Hmm.. Who exactly are on top of your list?
Those people you brought up in your big post?
I disagree with at least Hopeless for what i just said. Maybe on Grack too depending what BH flips. If BH is not scum then i could consider Grack but i think his interactions with Mocsta make him look better than most other players. For example i have no idea what supersoft is doing atm? I can't remember him trying to do anything at all tbh..



Top? Mattchew, Grack, Holy.

Hopeless looks terrible as well. He would be 4th on my list.


He killed your top scum read BC, yet your first response is: WHY DO WE BELIEVE MIGS CLAIM OMG HE IS SCUM? I don't think so.



No those are my top 3. Anyone all game would realize ive pushed grack since day 1 and is obviously my #1 on my list. Nice try tho scum.
HolyFlare seems too delighted every time he finds a little quote or slip or something to be scum.

mig is trying to refute your arguments
risen is trying to show how much he's not trying
oats is doing something
i'm occasionally tossing you questions

HolyFlare is actively digging back through your filter and into mason chats (ss/pandain), digging up little things and running to thread with them going LOOK LOOK LOOK LOOK. I mean that in a good way, I just like that metaphor. I don't buy him for scum at all right now. Again, he appears to be reading, then ACTIVELY FOLLOWING UP ON STUFF, and moving forward with it. Dat ain't da scum way.

The thing that makes HF appear town to you is pretty blatantly scummy. Scum try to find little things and blow them up and will hound people for small mistakes and the like, or even things that aren't scummy under the guise of scum hunting. Also Oats is being fucking retarded and needs to learn how to read. That's not "doing something".

Also, in case you guys were wondering.

+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]



Shit...
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 27 2013 04:59 GMT
#6751
On November 27 2013 13:50 Holyflare wrote:
hahaha your point on me was so shit, I called out the SS/pandain thing and you jumped all over it AND BLEW IT UP, isn't that what you self clasify as scummy???

It's not just that, look at what I did with Koshi over the night rofl
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 27 2013 05:00 GMT
#6752
EBWOP: Like I think at this point just about everyone can agree that I'm probably town but need to be lynched for the greater good. It's hilarious to me. The issue at hand is that everyone left in the game has so many varying scum reads and then there's me on everyone's radar. As I'm the only one that could possibly get a consensus going, I'm going to be the one lynched.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 27 2013 06:01 GMT
#6760
On November 27 2013 14:53 Oatsmaster wrote:
So Risen, why did you change your mind about going to your death quietly?

Initially because Koshi was totally scum in my mind and I wanted to make sure he got lynched after me. Now... lol. Besides, what HF said yesterday still holds a bit of weight. Now that scum KP has been reduced to 1, though, might as well remove the WIFOM bomb. Sways the argument HF/I had over what was more logical a little more my way I think. Doesn't mean you guys should stop discussion, though.

I'm really quite serious when I say start discussing as if this was tomorrow and I've flipped town. Some will say "Scum Risen wants us to do that all day so any discussion is ruined". But I disagree with that. I still think people's play can be analyzed in the event I flip scum (I won't, but you guys don't know that). In the event I flip town (I will, but you guys don't know that), you're a day ahead and already deciding upon who will be lynched!

I must admit there is a small amount of self-serving going on here. What if one of you find something super convincing and we actually lynch scum today instead of me like we did yesterday (not that I helped with that)?
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 27 2013 06:04 GMT
#6761
EBWOP: And in the event it is decided that Coag will be tomorrow's lynch look even farther into the future! We're in a unique position here with today's lynch being nearly 100% decided upon, why not take advantage of that before more townies die to lynches/night kills?

Like, I have no problem answering questions, so ask away and get the thoughts of someone who is going to be dead at the end of the day! I'm just too lazy to sum up my feelings into a case. It's too much work and not fun unless I'm trying to deceive people. I need to work on this and I'll probably try to in PYP. I really can't have my town meta be "doesn't care about the game"
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 27 2013 06:16 GMT
#6766
Going to just answer this quote since slam asked about someone in it.

On November 27 2013 15:10 Oatsmaster wrote:
Well Risen, if you didnt martyr and you played like you wanted to lynch scum and win the game, you probably wouldnt be in this position.

What do you think about Hopeless and Onegu?
There are like 3-4 people that I would lynch after Coag and thats way too many.


You are correct, but it's too late to change the past and I can't be trusted to not be faking this to fool town right now.

Hopeless is a lurker who barely ever enters my mind. I don't even know who he is in this game and know nothing about him. I don't think someone alive at this point should be null like that. A lot of me saying people are scummy comes because I'm a little too paranoid about people, so lurking is probably a good strategy against town me.

Onegu I found scummy earlier for reasons I can't remember. I think I posted them and I think I pointed out some stuff he did I found scummy. I think he developed his reads in a very poor manner or something.

Once I'm gone Coag seems like an out of left field lynch. I don't understand lynching him over someone like austin or VA. I feel like one of them has to be scum. Don't know why, though.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 27 2013 06:17 GMT
#6767
On November 27 2013 15:12 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2013 15:04 Risen wrote:
EBWOP: And in the event it is decided that Coag will be tomorrow's lynch look even farther into the future! We're in a unique position here with today's lynch being nearly 100% decided upon, why not take advantage of that before more townies die to lynches/night kills?

Like, I have no problem answering questions, so ask away and get the thoughts of someone who is going to be dead at the end of the day! I'm just too lazy to sum up my feelings into a case. It's too much work and not fun unless I'm trying to deceive people. I need to work on this and I'll probably try to in PYP. I really can't have my town meta be "doesn't care about the game"

Well

We are of one blood, ye and I. I shall ask, ye shall answer, and, ask, and I shall answer.

What is your opinion on Onegu?

EBWOP: Nitpick. How do you know we are of one blood? I'm assuming you mean both town. I get really annoyed when people call me town regardless of alignment.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 27 2013 06:18 GMT
#6768
Double EBWOP: I think austin and VA bug me the most b/c they both had town reads on me and changed them to scum reads for something I consider quite small. VA comes out the scummier of the two for having a town read on thrawn that he never explained. ((unless he explained it and I'm just not remembering, which to me says he didn't explain it well enough. I really have read every page of this game, I just don't have a good memory))
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
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