I was looking before the night post. Either way I still want this answer from other people.

And fuck off, I said don't vote july you voted him. Now make it worthwhile.

JonnyLaw

United States3482 Posts

November 01 2013 01:17 GMT

#661

Obzy, if you really think attacking multiple players to get them in the game and defending the mislynch is scum go for it bro. Go for it.

You guys ignore what I say and go on tangents without explaining them. "july scummy"
Look at my posts. WHY WHY WHY.

JonnyLaw

United States3482 Posts

November 01 2013 01:23 GMT

#663

I want people to answer that question so I can see where people stand individually instead of with someone as a shield for them. Is is that hard to see?

It's easy to say let's lynch odin, oh no obzy is right let's lynch july. Where do the rest of the july lynch train stand on the next lynch?

It's a simple question. I appreciate your answer and sorry I missed it.

JonnyLaw

United States3482 Posts

November 01 2013 04:28 GMT

#685

@obzy I think Odin was 100% worth a day one lynch and YOU, no one else are responsible for not letting it happen.

I asked you specifically what we need to do in order to lynch Odin and you didn't respond. You're town and you messed up. I don't know if he's worth pursuing beyond day one. We'll see soon. Day one we have a 25% chance of not killing a town player, 33% if you're counting in an SK. That's exactly why I said he's a detriment alive and he's a detriment dead. I explained this and you used it as a counter argument against my case and you lynched july.

If you guys want to waste time evaluating me, then do it. Say something so we can move on. No one else has brought a case against a player then entire game except "he's not saying a lot." Do something.

JonnyLaw

United States3482 Posts

November 01 2013 04:30 GMT

#686

ebwobWell, my last paragraph is wrong now.

JonnyLaw

United States3482 Posts

November 01 2013 21:33 GMT

#756

Hey guys, I don't have a lot of time right now but I'll be off work soon. I read through the posts briefly since last night.

Whoever said I was frustrated last night by the July lynch was correct. July's play was transparent and just plain bad. He said whatever he wanted when pressured and his best defense was "fuck off I'm town." Ehh...he didn't come off as stupid so that defense wasn't in line with him being scum. Oh well, what's done is done.

When I get home I'll check the filters again. Particularly intrigued to see when and how people placed their votes. No one has addressed this issue and it's really the best reads we can get from that lynch.

We need look at who joined the July lynch party and when. Examine these facts in relationship to their other posts and we can start to form a picture of the web that got July lynched and we can come up with a better lynch target for day2. If it happens to be me that you decide on after actual fact analysis, so be it. I'll look for myself soon and see what I can ocme up with here.

In regards to cakeman. I don't know if he's scum or town but since the day 1 pressure that came from a couple shitty posts he's been improving his play and acts as though he's genuinely trying to catch scum. I'll check that filter along with the rest.

JonnyLaw

United States3482 Posts

November 02 2013 02:03 GMT

#786

@Vonthin What the fuck are you talking about? I said july was a bad lynch when he had 3 votes and odin had ONE. I said that the entirety of the lynching process. I said he was maybe the third best option we had at one point and changed my mind from even that before he was lynched.

@obzy You didn't like my comment that Odin was our best lynch even if he was town because he doesn't contribute. There's a 25% chance we lynch scum day 1. On july I felt it was closer to 10% chance and on Odin closer to 50%. July's play made no sense from a mafia perspective. I don't know what you're missing here.

@Van's post. His analysis is terrible. If you want to pressure a pair of people it's much easier to link them together and see what the reaction is in order to not create as much of a defensive vibe. Going straight and saying you're scum makes them consider their actions before posting much more than they would otherwise. I don't get how you guys cannot see this.

Honestly, I'm getting tired of everyone here. No one makes an analytic read of the voting process at all. Do you guys even try to win? I gave some people in this thread of the benefit of the doubt. But, apparently I'm dumb enough to snipe someone who's calling me out. Oh well, I'm gonna read the filters and compare times. I'll post more later.

By the way, Obzy you're awful at this game.

JonnyLaw

United States3482 Posts

November 02 2013 02:08 GMT

#787

@storr Read my posts for the entire game. I've said I'm willing to vote for whatever the majority is if needed. I didn't want to f5 the thread nonstop for the last two minutes to ensure that it was indeed a majority lynch. Someone, even town, could switch off at the end with good intentions. Lynching someone is better than no one in most cases. Even if no one is using ANY of the info we gained from that lynch.

@obzy Oh yeah, why do you say that it's scummy for me to want E00e before July? E00e called out odin hard and fast. If he's scum odin isn't. It's simple. Sure I think Odin is scummy but again it's not 100% certain especially on day 1. At least there's easy info to be gained. They were both just clearly superior lynches and you were the deciding factor in getting july lynched.

JonnyLaw

United States3482 Posts

November 02 2013 02:11 GMT

#789

Last comment until I read further in the voting.

You realize you're just taking the bait by trying to vote me scum. If you're scum, who better to kill than a guy who's making aggressive posts about other town players. I mean I have no problem being accused of scum you'd be silly not to consider all options. But, you're being misled by a simple play from the mafia players.

JonnyLaw

United States3482 Posts

November 02 2013 02:14 GMT

#790

I'm having a piss poor attitude because I take time, evaluate the game, read filters and get zero responses because the town is lazy. If we lose because of my frustration at the lack of effort from other players I will not feel guilty in the slightest.

JonnyLaw

United States3482 Posts

November 02 2013 02:27 GMT

#794

@vonthin My case on Odin was simple. He came into the thread, was disruptive and tossed out scum accusations at players without knowledge of the entire game. By doing so he creates chaos among the town. After he did that he lied about reading the thread. Chaos + Lying = scum or terrible town.

@storr Yeah, you're right. It's been a long week and my tolerance for people is very low at the moment. I'm not helping anyone by being so abrasive. Honestly I think Obzy's mad I said I told you so! I'm acting like an entitled twelve year old. I'll crack down and get something accomplished.

JonnyLaw

United States3482 Posts

November 02 2013 02:50 GMT

#797

On November 01 2013 02:42 cakemanofdoom wrote:
##Unvote Tehpoofter
##Vote: July617

I'm feeling that July's the one most people have their eyes on. Aside from maybe E00e, who I think has posted better than July.

Remember he is the second player to vote for July. He's convincing us that people feel that way about July.

This post feels wrong. I reread the thread three pages before this one. Balla wants to vote for me. I said I'd rather vote E00e, poofter or odin and also asked July to post something of substance. Obzy said he'd be "okay" with a july vote. Other than that and storr's vote there's not a lot of talk about July as a potential lynch candidate yet.

Cakeman what made you think that more people were okay with the July lynch? You knew you had at least two other votes up your sleeve or what?

JonnyLaw

United States3482 Posts

November 02 2013 02:52 GMT

#798

On November 01 2013 04:53 E00e wrote:
As I said I will be around for now and I already said who I would like to lynch the most so I dont feel like my vote is important right now, but here it is:
##vote: OdinOfPergo

That was five hours after Odin's first post in the thread.

JonnyLaw

United States3482 Posts

November 02 2013 02:53 GMT

#799

ebwob How is voting him and calling him out soon after his appearance a light accusation?

JonnyLaw

United States3482 Posts

November 02 2013 03:01 GMT

#801

Why would he propose to start a lynch train on Odin when no one else had if they're scum partners? That's all I'm saying man. It's a much easier read than what we gained from lynching July which is almost nothing at this point. I'm trying to dig through and see who pushed to lynch July at convenient times.

Also, I think everyone in this game has called me scum at some point. I've been active and aggressive.

JonnyLaw

United States3482 Posts

November 02 2013 19:12 GMT

#859

Storr why do you want to lynch nyx? I mean he's not contributing anything so it's not a terrible plan but it feels like another crap shoot.

He calls me town after I waste everyone's time and clog up the thread for multiple pages arguing with obzy and balla. I don't like this at all.

He says he's bad at the game and goes on a feeling voting for you. That seems very sloppy if it's mafia play. Some people do not express themselves eloquently. I mean, there's just not much to go on with this read.

He's not the worst candidate for lynching. I'm going to reread a bit and see if someone stands out as a better choice.

JonnyLaw

United States3482 Posts

November 02 2013 20:01 GMT

#870

I dunno Balla, you're playing the same game you did in the last two games.

Posting actively, pointing attention at players that are not yourself. Actually, your behavior is nearly identical.

Last game you said bereft played the same town as he did in his first game. He was scum, so were you. When I brought up Odin, you said he played the same game he did last game where he was town and you were scum.

Identical arguments.

You said we get information when july flips scum. What's that information?

JonnyLaw

United States3482 Posts

November 02 2013 20:05 GMT

#871

There isn't necessarily a mafia role blocker, correct?

JonnyLaw

United States3482 Posts

November 02 2013 20:56 GMT

#892

I'm just asking a question. I'm not angry. Why should anybody be taken at face value in this game? You should understand that as well as anyone. There's a lot of time until we need to decide on our lynch.

My point is if there is no mafia roleblocker then claiming to be role blocked as mafia makes a lot of sense.

Why did you tell us you were roleblocked? What information does that add to help the town? From what I see it doesn't help us but that could just be a mistake. This is a serious question and I don't know why you're getting so defensive about it.