EPTthat clears that up. As I said I actually believe that it may have just been an honest misread by cake as I said in my post. Apparently he wasn't the only one who misread it and getting nyx to talk more I think is good because I don't like his play thus far.
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that clears that up. As I said I actually believe that it may have just been an honest misread by cake as I said in my post. Apparently he wasn't the only one who misread it and getting nyx to talk more I think is good because I don't like his play thus far. | ||
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I have to say that my read on Johnny is a bit conflicted in that I think the way that he makes his accusations and his pressure and his wordings have been good and done in a town measure. The problem is I don't agree with most of them ex: his read on Van last night and him saying I ask too many questions. For now I have him as on the fence leaning more scummy. I think there are better lynches atm. What do you think of him Balla? | ||
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I said that I wouldn't be comfortable voting that early. I guess from the reactions confirming I won't or will be in a thread is read as scummy? idk I feel like the town knowing that I'm not just out there lurking. My point on cake being discussed was that several people had talked about her being scummy I had brought up the point about her not talking to balla already as well and nothing new had come since my last post on it so rehashing the same thing and being redundant isnt helpful. I made the balla read and was the only one so I don't see how you can say I'm only taking up on others ideas even then. And as town if I see someone say something that I agree with you can bet I'm going to voice my agreement about it which I have been doing throughout the day and I don't think thats scummy at all since I'm bringing up my own points as well and asking questions on my own. | ||
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I agree with Johnny don't sign up if you don't have time. IF you're going to post infrequently I hope you have some really good insight to the game thus far. I'd like to hear who your circle of town/mafia is and who you want to hear more from and about what. @Vonthin I'd like to hear the same from you please give us something to go on share with us your knowledge so we can kill some scum. | ||
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On October 31 2013 15:36 cakemanofdoom wrote: As I admitted, I made bad posts. Nothing about what I've done will flat out clear me, and it's perfectly reasonable to keep an eye on me. Tehpoofter started by jumping on me. Reasonable. But the reasoning he provided, about me not directly addressing Balla, feels like a way to seem productive rather than an actual contribution. I think he talks about outside matters too much for my taste; it just isn't helpful and I think that the only game-relevant effect is as an excuse for lurking. From then on, he's been continuing to attack me or explaining himself. His explanations are pretty logical to me, but he's also not being helpful. I still think there's a good chance he's scum. At this point I'm feeling a poofter lynch. July confuses me more than anything. He looks bad, but I don't see how his posts help mafia. I'm waiting on Storr's actual analyses, but with his lack of content I'd settle for lynching him. poofter being useless after being called out several times is what I think makes him look worse than owb, but if owb doesn't contribute more I'd be fine with lynching him too. I don't like your logic train at all, I haven't all game it started with your post early on which even you agree is reasonable for me to suspect. Then you misread a couple things and your go to accusation has been to come after me for going on you, which I think its reasonable to defend yourself but your comments are the same that I talk about outside influences too much and that my post lack content. So basically laying it out 1.) You think your posts are bad and nothing you have done would clear you 2.) You agree me coming on you was reasonable. 3.) You think that I talk about outside influences too much for an excuse of lurking 4.) You think that my post are logical Out of those 4 number 3 I did on the first night say "i was doing x this is why i haven't post" otherwise the other 2 times I mentioned rl things I was saying I won't be around for a bit because of x or y. and the last time I did this was this morning and have sense made more than half my post without bringing it up so out of my 2 pages of filter 3 have been on outside things which for you is too much I guess. So your end claim is that you think I'm scummy and am a reasonable lynch because I'm being logical, and pointing out your admittedly bad posts and I have talked about rl things early on. I think that line of logic I can't agree with. I really want to vote for you to be lynched because I think you're harping on old information in lue of bringing up new info (until your last post where you brought up July whom I have suspicion on as well but I can't ignore what you say) Now the only reason I'm not currently voting for you is because I agree with the point storr was bringing up that we need to all focus in on making sure we get a lynch tonight because sleeping night 1 is only a win for mafia. With that said unless there are more people that end up agreeing with me and don't just sheep on to you I will be leaving you alone for the remainder of the day unless something comes up. More to come on who I think we should lynch. | ||
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My two cents on these votes: Cake: if you read my above post you can see the case I made for cake but I have a feeling I'm not going to get much support and I don't want to miss a lynch just because I'm tunnel visioning. July: I don't like his attitude in his posts he seems overly defensive and hasnt brought up any pertinent information and seems to just give a couple things and then just lay off. Storr: I don't know what to think of these two votes because they're done by the confirmed town and my #1/2 town read in Balla. I however totally disagree and feel like storr would be an easy vote to get pushed through because he is frankly the only name I recognize and having seen him play mafia before I respect his game as I'm sure others have done and do before. This seems like if Storr has a couple votes going into the end of tomorrow could be easy for mafia to hop on and get out a good player who has done nothing to show me he is scummy and has made pro town plays thus far in wanting to organize our votes most importantly. E00e: I at first liked what he was saying because he was agreeing with me but looking back at his filter to see why he is getting votes and reading the reasonings I'm seeing he is sheeping in half his posts and the other half are just instant question deflections this reads scummy to me I didn't notice at first cause he was agreeing with me which was something I shouldn't do (write someone off because we have different opinions). I feel like his post count is super low as well and his content not very town beneficial. I don't have much more to go on at this point because he hasn't given me more to read from. @E00e I would love for some more reads from you throughout the day that you're coming up with and good logic. As for now I'm throwing my vote your way because you're not helping town. ##Vote E00e I think the most important thing for town to do going into the last night is make sure we get a lynch and the majority lynch as has been brought up before is the key. We must come together as town and weed out the scum. | ||
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On November 01 2013 05:26 July617 wrote: Cake i picked him because he's inactive and I though lynching inactive was a priority|? I have easily double the amount of posts than you with defenses, questions, summations, accusations and discussion. Your posts have been very short (excluding the post you made to unvote where I think not voting is an awful idea and don't agree with) and all over the place. This to me either reads as very sloppy town play or confusion based mafia play. We have basically 3 people who had a decent amount of votes when you voted for me and at the time I had none point being not that it was on me but because it goes against getting a majority lynch which is the goal of today. However, your accusation on me is silly as I have clearly been posting a lot it seems like you just looked back and saw the person who hadn't posted in the longest amount of time and picked them. Also even if people think I haven't been active who said lynching inactive was priority? Its more of a if we can't get a scum read we go with an inactive that could be scum first. Catching scum is priority over someone who doesn't talk. (Which I have been.) I also would like to point out that your post right before was: Where you referenced a circle which rereading the post I'm not 100% sure on who you were even claiming in your circle if you're going to make an accusation put it down, dropping hints like that is scummy and only causes confusion. Make your reads clear. But, from what I gather of the possibilities of circles from the post you quoted I was not in any of them So why in your very next post would you suddenly switch your vote to me? It doesn't make sense. I have more to say about E00e's defense and I will explain that in my next post but don't want a large wall of text cause I know this is already pretty big. ##Unvote ##Vote July617 | ||
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On November 01 2013 04:43 E00e wrote: At this point I feel like I will get lynched because I got the initial votes nearing the dead line and people signing off with them. If you are going to vote for me because you just want to have somebody lynched Id like to remind you that a few people could be the target of this vote and the votes on me really started with the accusations on me that I disproved (at least no one said otherwise after I posted my statements about them). I believe other players could still get lynched and if you vote you should conscious of the fact that is just a "bad feeling". I got back and saw this voting pattern and honestly didn't like it either. This is why I'm switching off you it seemed like it was going to be.... for lack of a better word... "too easy" to get votes to go onto you which reads as town to me. I think your posts today were the best you've done so far I really liked the way you addressed your accusations in your posts especially how you have felt on July which I have to agree with. Early when I was talking to you about sheeping I still believe that you were doing that in the early day and I hope that in the days to follow we get to see some more solid reads from that aren't just sheeps for now I'm on the fence for you. | ||
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On November 01 2013 06:27 Balla24 wrote: Ugh worst time for maintenance ~~~~~ ahahha Agreed. | ||
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@July I really don't like your reasoning you gave on the end of page 26.... Like you wanted a safe vote??? How can you think that is a pro town move to not vote? You're on the chopping block bro convince us you're not the best lynch. Giving up and being defeated doesn't help town at all. | ||
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On November 01 2013 08:16 July617 wrote: Yeah , i've got nothing . Sorry for being a shitty town guys , I really wish you would give us something. :/ | ||
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On November 01 2013 13:23 Vanesco wrote: ...He has seemed to lost his cakeman accusation which he had for more than half the game and seems to be fine on sitting on the easy votes at that time, E00e and then July. He also votes on July after July had voted on him, maybe a revenge vote by poofter. Currently I am curious why his scum read of cake all game long went away and turned to E00e as soon as some votes and accusations of E00e were in. This is the exert about why I was not voting on/talking about cake the rest of the day yesterday. On October 31 2013 18:17 Tehpoofter wrote: I really want to vote for you to be lynched because I think you're harping on old information in lue of bringing up new info (until your last post where you brought up July whom I have suspicion on as well but I can't ignore what you say) Now the only reason I'm not currently voting for you is because I agree with the point storr was bringing up that we need to all focus in on making sure we get a lynch tonight because sleeping night 1 is only a win for mafia. With that said unless there are more people that end up agreeing with me and don't just sheep on to you I will be leaving you alone for the remainder of the day unless something comes up. More to come on who I think we should lynch. I didn't think I could get enough votes on cake yesterday and I think a no lynch is a town mistake day 1. I went on to in my next post give my reads on the current vote getters and where I stood on each. I then put my vote in for E00e saying he needed to talk more and that his responses up until that point had seemed very sheepy or redirect oriented as oppossed to new information and poking. That is why I changed from cake to E00e, then E00e came on and made a couple of good posts even about July. July at the same time made some, what I thought were very anti town posts, about not voting and then called me out as inactive. I then gave a case on july and also saying that I had at that point gotten away from E00e because of his posts which I addressed in my next post (feel free to check out my filter for a clearer picture) That clear up my vote changing? | ||
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I don't usually like meta posts but I think this one is pretty important. If you are being lynched as town defend yourself, speak up! Let us know what you can do to help the town and why you our town, going quietly into the night doesn't help us at all!! RIP July. | ||
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On November 01 2013 13:04 cakemanofdoom wrote: He talks more about real life than anyone else, as far as I can tell. I don't know why he felt that need, and I think such posts do little but excuse lurking. I have addressed before and am definitely not the only person to have let others know when I wasn't going to be here for rl reasons(despite not doing it in the past two days) I think this is just rehashing the same thing against me over and over and I read that as scummy. I will be compiling a case again as I think cake is a good person to be looking at day 2 as scum. @Johnny I think he tunnels entirely too hard onto people. I didn't like the way Odin was posting either format wise and his accusations the first time he posted seemed to be off. But the way johnny harped on the one point over and over repeatedly really reads as scummy to me, honestly if this had been after a night phase I would think he had a read on him as scum or something and was trying to soft claim but since this was day 1 it just seemed like he was going HAM on one thing that I will agree was off but not worth the multiple posts made on it. These two Cake and Johnny are my biggest scum reads atm. Town reads to follow. | ||
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I also have a town read on Van. I have liked the arguments he has made even when he made some points on me I thought that his points were logical and his activity has been very good. I think that the way he responded to Johnny's early accusations was on point and I agreed with his most recent case on Johnny being scummy. I didn't like his post where he broke down the 3 way argument between Balla Odin and Johnny I like that he is trying to draw conclusions from something like that but I don't agree that much ended up coming out of it from my perspective. Conclusion: Town in order of strongest read Obyz(confirmed), Balla then Van Everyone I haven't listen I'm not leaning heavily one way or the other as of yet. Goodnight everyone I hope we can weed out some scum tomorrow hopefully we will get more insight into what we are facing tonight be it just mafia or mafia + SK or whatever. | ||
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As for Balla being role blocked I think it was really good he came out cause I highly doubt anyone read her as anything but town, although apparently Johnny was curious how this information can help town in one of his posts. I think that Balla coming out so early about being roleblocked and the fact we don't have a counter claim does lead to two possibilities 1.)Mafia RBd him (again weird because although he read town to I think a lot of people I personally didn't get a blue vibe from his posts) or 2.) Its mafia fake claiming a roleblock. I'm going to go back and read the other game to look at his play style as was brought up but from what I've seen in this game so far balla has been prodding and poking lots of people and reading as town to me as I said in my read from earlier. Although I will say I didn't like this post: + Show Spoiler + On November 03 2013 05:24 Balla24 wrote: WTF............................. Are you guys serious right now? Why aren't you believing me? This is unreal... Storr this is super scummy to me.... if I even come close to a lynch and i WAS town RB'ed then you will get the town RB to come out. If i was MAFIA RB'ed then nobody will claim and I will get lynched. You even suggesting lynching me is so so so ridiculously weird.... It seems super defensive for not much reasoning, everyone should be under suspicion. Even though I had you as my biggest town read I can't rule you out. I'm still inclined to believe that you're town who over reacted, as one scummy thing doesn't lead me to a scum tell more of a pattern of scummy things does. | ||
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On November 03 2013 05:50 StorrZerg wrote: @tehpoofter why did you go on july, when Cake had all ready cast his vote on july? If you think cake is scum did you think it was a bus? I know its hard to answer that question after the fact when it is clear that july was town. How come you didn't' express your concern more about cake while voting on july? I gave my case on cake and concluded that I didn't think enough people agreed with me to get a lynch yesterday and I wanted to make sure of a lynch so I basically said I was going to table that thought until tomorrow. I then went on E00e who at the time I thought was most scummy of the vote getters then later in the day after July had made his no lynch posts plus his "safe lynch" on me I changed to July tbh I didn't really notice that cake had moved his vote to July at the time something that would have made me way more hesitant. | ||
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