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Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
October 30 2013 05:16 GMT
#159
I'm curious where thepoofter went... he was quick to discredit cakeman and state his activity periods and then no opinions on anything else. Apparently he should be active now...
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
October 30 2013 05:16 GMT
#160
On October 30 2013 14:15 Obzy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2013 13:48 JonnyLaw wrote:
@cake Nah, I'm keeping that opinion to myself for a while. I'm not telling anyone how to play on day one.

Nyxnyxnyx is active in lol subforum. I expect to see him post in the next few hours. It's an awkward time for him.

@storr If you've played or obs'd newb games you'd understand his concern. This thread looks active and that's an oddity from what i've seen in the last two games.


Does this thread seriously look active? =l


unfortunately this is "active" for newbie games.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
October 30 2013 05:22 GMT
#163
If he has nothing to add then he has nothing to add... what could town possibly gain from that besides the fact that he's not putting an effort in... we already know that by him not posting.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
October 30 2013 05:32 GMT
#166
July's activity level last game was freaking abysmal and he was sk. We know he's been around too since he recently confirmed. Definitely should not let him slide by posting once or twice a day like town did last time.

But yeah, I agree with Storr.. i'm gonna go to bed and hopefully wake up to the rest of the crowd's posts (OdinOfPergo will probably have tons of rambling... lol)
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
October 30 2013 15:07 GMT
#188
@Jonnylaw, why are you saying it's a bandwagon? It was literally only him at the beginning, other people were uncomfortable enough to pressure cake but nothing much else. Not saying I disagree on the read though, just find it odd you're calling it a bandwagon.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
October 30 2013 15:12 GMT
#189
On October 30 2013 17:14 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
asians always get shafted wrt times ):

so as promised, i'll try to make some reads this time rather than just not posting. so far i'm liking either Vanesco or cakeman for a day 1 lynch. cakeman constantly questioning himself is questionable (c wut i did thar?) and Vanesco's points are iterated nicely by Jonny above ^, although some parts are a stretch. barring any other sort of information so early on, i would think apologetic-ness / questiony-ness is suspicious to me.


Which one is stronger read for you? Which parts are a stretch?

Can you find anything in his posts where there is possibly use of information bias as scum, or lack of information bias? Particularly in this post:

On October 30 2013 11:46 Vanesco wrote:
@Obzy
In my mind I play by thinking everybody is potential mafia at the start(except for me and you). Maybe defending was a wrong word to use, instead maybe redirecting would be better. If Balla and cakeman are mafia together, then it seems like cakeman is trying to redirect off of Balla by saying that there is no concrete evidence (like I have said many times before, there shouldnt be on page 1 of day 1). It just seems very scummy since the only way to get people to talk at the start of the day is to put a bit of pressure and he is trying to take it off Balla.

Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
October 30 2013 15:36 GMT
#190
On October 30 2013 15:28 Tehpoofter wrote:
@Van
I don't have anything too strong but I do like the way you have been approaching things from multiple angles as opposed to just tunnel visioning on one person or thing I feel like that is a pro town move. My other read thus far is on Balla I liked that she was calling me out for not posting for awhile when I had previously given some input that seems pro town to me posting more is always better!

Also I'd like to know what you(van) think about the July vote from store/obzy? Too soon? I'm new so the timing may be fairly typical but seems early too me I'm just starting to build up some reads here not sure I feel comfortable voting yet.


What are the multiple angles that Van is approaching? I don't see that at all. I feel that's kind of sloppy reading from you as I was actually going to bring up the fact that he was considering only 1 option as a scummy trait. He seemed to tunnel vision on a cake/me fast as cake deflecting off of me.

+ Show Spoiler [response to jonnylaw's rant] +
It's bAlla... and I'm a he, not a she. -_- Every game ^_^
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
October 30 2013 15:52 GMT
#193
I mean, just cause we discussed it doesn't mean i'm just gonna not consider it. Previously I was trying to get you to see other options... now I'm considering whether you are suspicious or not.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
October 30 2013 15:53 GMT
#194
Also... I was directly refuting what someone else was saying about you. Do you really think you've been approaching the game from multiple angles? I completely disagree with that.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
October 30 2013 16:02 GMT
#198
@Vanesco... good. I'm not going to disagree with that. I just find what tehpoofter said odd is all.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
October 30 2013 16:10 GMT
#204
@OWB what do you think about Vanesco? At this point OWB you're also a lurker. You've barely said anything about any cases. Cmon dude.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
October 30 2013 16:25 GMT
#208
I have to agree about Jonnylaw's case. It's very contrived with very specific things. In the previous game he was much more careful with his scum read, and it was more of a feeling. Feels weird that he picks on small things here. On top of that, he claims thepoofter/vanesco is a scum pair but doesn't make a similar case on poofter...Not making the case makes it easier to not have to push poofter when vanesco inevitably flips town (looking at it as Jonnylaw trying to get a townie lynched).

However, I strongly believe it's not a strong scum play to put suspicion on someone right away for little things like that. It just makes it easier for town to narrow down on you, since you got a townie lynched for weak suspicion.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
October 30 2013 16:26 GMT
#209
On October 31 2013 01:22 July617 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2013 17:14 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
asians always get shafted wrt times ):

so as promised, i'll try to make some reads this time rather than just not posting. so far i'm liking either Vanesco or cakeman for a day 1 lynch. cakeman constantly questioning himself is questionable (c wut i did thar?) and Vanesco's points are iterated nicely by Jonny above ^, although some parts are a stretch. barring any other sort of information so early on, i would think apologetic-ness / questiony-ness is suspicious to me.



If apologetic-ness/ questiony-ness is suspicious, then doesn't your post sound like a bit of an apology? "You're going to "try" and make reads (Often times mafia "try" to make reads to look like they're contributing ) , and you also agree with Jonny's points but you still question parts of it because they sound like a stretch ?
I dunno, maybe i'm reading too into it or maybe i'm not but that's my town post for now .


not enough. give more. this is the epitomy of a lurker post. and it's exactly how you posted last game.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
October 30 2013 16:38 GMT
#211
I also don't understand why Jonnylaw is hiding stuff about cake... yet goes all out on Vanesco...
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
October 30 2013 16:55 GMT
#216
Unfortunately, I'm also purposefully leaving reads off the table because a lot of the lurkers we have this game are REALLY BAD at sheeping onto other people's reads, so I want them to form their own opinions and get them to play the game before I let it all out. Particularly Nyx and July were VERY sheepy last game.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
October 30 2013 16:56 GMT
#219
ebwop: "REALLY BAD at" -> "known for"
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
October 30 2013 17:05 GMT
#220
On October 31 2013 01:55 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 01:46 StorrZerg wrote:
id perfer if people not explain why they are inactive becuase of x reason irl. we all have a life outside of this game. so next time someone says rl as an exuse for not posting content or lack of posts ill just call bs now.

i still think we have a few who have yet to post. plz post.

july's post was ok, but if this is your style of play, 1 post evey 12 hours. your really gonna have to make those 4 posts count to not get lynched.

That seems...very aggro. I don't think there's anything wrong with giving people a heads up if you're going to be MIA. I mean I guess scum could hide behind those sort of posts, but just just putting a blanket out there that all MIA warnings are scummy seems weird to be.


Why is that weird...? What is that accomplishing from both a town perspective and a scum perspective? Doesn't seem weird to me at all and I think he's just fed up with that kind of thing already.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
October 30 2013 17:08 GMT
#222
Yeah, me too... but like why do you think it's relevant to point out that you guys differ in that subject... you keep pointing out and poking really odd things this game so far.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
October 30 2013 17:10 GMT
#225
I just find it annoying how you're doing that, and not giving anything else. You're just poking irrelevant topics and then not sharing anything else. It seems like you're not thinking about the plays that people are making like you normally do, and you're calling out lurkers yet you're basically a lurker yourself, don't you think? Look at your filter..
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
October 30 2013 17:10 GMT
#226
EBWOP: woahh @onlywonderboy haha, lots of posts in between
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