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Vanesco
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JonnyLaw
United States3482 Posts
On October 31 2013 09:02 Balla24 wrote: You mean as lurker lynch targets JonnyLaw? Or is there another reason you'd be ok with lynching them? Exactly Balla, they're hardly active and are certainly not contributing to the town at this point regardless of their alignment. I think going through their filters it's possible to make an educated guess and hope for the best. As I said there's 24 hours to go so we have some time to see improvement out of their play. | ||
onlywonderboy
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Obzy
United States525 Posts
Atm I'm thinking balla, van, and jonny are pretty solidly town right now - not really gonna bother linking/finding exact sources, but the way that balla has played all game has seemed townie to me (actively questioning people with good questions, answering questions using logic that I would have applied, so on and so forth). I was significantly nuller on Van yesterday, which is why when I saw jonny's minicase this morning, I liked parts of it, although I didn't have time to really gauge van's response. Throughout the day though, the way that Van has been applying pressure has indeed been consistent and he's had a wide range of targets, which is consistent with the way he has liked to play. Also, his thoughts on scummy people have been things I've largely agreed with. Yesterday, I thought Van was scummier than not mostly due to pointing out how he treats everybody as potential mafia at the beginning (a reasonable sentiment, whatever) - but immediately tunneled on cake (which was also fine) - while siding with Storr, who I thought he should've been more suspicious of. Jonny's mini-case that I saw this morning basically poked at exactly that; that and a combination of recent activity is what makes me lean fairly town on him as well. Those three are probably my strongest reads at this point. So there's one thing that really sort of bothered me - (and it was indeed because I was referenced for no reason) - July entered with, in my opinion, a restatement of what I had already said, and then proceeded to make a few mostly pointless posts, particularly here. In the linked post, he blatantly misread - and was promptly shot down, of course - but then somehow decided to keep talking about it after Van responded? He hasn't said anything of value, and for that I'd happily vote him; but this is all just buildup- oh wait nvm okay so I was thinking that Storr's post here On October 31 2013 01:50 StorrZerg wrote: cake might be town i know he has had a lot of pressue, but he doesnt scream scum to me yet. @obzy push something else. no reason to sheep onto july yet. made no sense, because I hadn't thought there was anything to sheep... Completely forgot that I had voted him yesterday before unvoting this morning, and that Storr had actually already voted him. I had sort of been wondering what it meant that my suspicions of July's bad posting somehow caused Storr to tell me to not sheep onto July yet, but it was just my reading fail. W/e ^_^;;; I think cake is probably more town than not, he seems like a very typical "be scummy while acting townie" to me. I don't feel comfortable voting him today, his recent posting has been solid, and his initial posting didn't really seem bad, although that's just my interpretation. Regarding E00e, Vonthin, nyxnyxnyx, and onlywonderboy - I don't really have solid reads on any of them. Owb's recent post where he actually says some things isn't too bad though, so I don't really know if he should be in this grouping. ^^ The fact that it isn't too bad just means he's not useless lurky... I'll address it in a sec blah blah i wanna finish this first read dump crap pile. basically balla van jonny town cake looks townish dunno about storr or owb e00e von nyx and odin are lurking/forgettable/haven't posted july looks scummy to me and I literally haven't read anything about poofter in depth to form an opinion because I'm lazy. I'll do that now. | ||
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Obzy
United States525 Posts
owb, why do you think that July should be pardoned for the way he's currently playing? On October 31 2013 03:07 onlywonderboy wrote: July - He played a very aggro game last time too so none of his comments seem out of character. He was SK last game, but that didn't stop him from playing in a way that didn't preserve his well being. I want to see how his posts develop but his current comments might not seem as scum as a lot of people are making them out to be The way that you say that, I would actually draw the opposite interpretation- "Because he is playing in a similar manner, and his posts can be seen as scum inherently, if we were to use meta, it means he's likely to be scum" instead of "Because he's playing similarly, and he's scummy, it means people shouldn't worry so much." What do you think of Storr? | ||
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Obzy
United States525 Posts
I don't like the way Storr has been posting. He seemed okay yesterday because 'he was being targeted by the only potentially aggressive play by cake for a largely meaningless comment, He dodged my question about Van yesterday when I was sort of suspicious of him[Van], and honestly hasn't said anything of value since then other something along the lines of "well i guess cake might be town", as sentiment began falling off. I also think his telling me not to sheep the July vote was ridiculous and bothered me (even though it was my own misinterpretation), since it was very obviously voting on a nonposter to attempt to illicit some sort of reaction, and telling me to go push something else when he himself had not pushed July at all, in addition to then following up this hard work by not pushing anybody, but only trying to discredit and discourage people from making availability known to the thread, is holy crap this sentence got long. I feel more comfortable voting Storr right now than nyxnyxnyx by a considerable amount, although I'm amenable to a July vote. I definitely think that our candidates for the vote should be drawn from the two of them, plus the lurkers. ##Unvote ##Vote: StorrZerg If anybody has any comments (or just wants to make fun of how wrong I am), lemme know - I've basically composed posts for 30 minutes straight now and nobody's said a word ^^; | ||
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
In regards to July, I guess we just disagree on a fundamental level about past game meta. I expect July to play a pretty similar style of game no matter his allegiance. I'm by no means saying not to worry about him, but that early mafia reads might just be a result of his combative nature which would be present regardless of whether he's town, SK, or mafia. | ||
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Balla24
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##Vote: StorrZerg | ||
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onlywonderboy
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JonnyLaw
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Until we're closer to the deadline I'm not voting storrzerg. He has time to contribute as do the other lurkers. If nothing by then I'll listen to any and all arguments for the four players who have not contributed a lot. For now, lets stick to discussing active players please. | ||
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JonnyLaw
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Vanesco
United States105 Posts
I do not like your vote at the moment you made it. It's like you are saying you will look into it but vote before doing so, as if it doesn't matter if storr has posted something useful or not. | ||
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Vanesco
United States105 Posts
I am at the moment just waiting until poofter shows up again. I would rather wait for him to respond before giving an opinion I have on him. | ||
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Obzy
United States525 Posts
although they totally may not be correct conclusions Understood and largely agreed, owb - which is why my vote isn't currently resting on him, although he's probably objectively the scummiest person. If he continues to play in a combative, noncommittal way, it won't be difficult to properly identify it. If he stops entirely, then that's also not useful - and if he shapes up and becomes a bastion of towniness, then the issues are resolved. Jonny, although I agree that the first 2/3 of poofter's filter is basically meaningless, I think that can be said about more than one person, and the remainder is enough to make me not primarily worried about him at the moment. | ||
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Balla24
2322 Posts
I do agree on the fact that he's contradicting himself by saying he doesn't want to clog up the thread but then does just that, but I chalk that up to him actually wanting to make us aware that he would be MIA. | ||
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Balla24
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On October 31 2013 10:19 Vanesco wrote: @Balla I do not like your vote at the moment you made it. It's like you are saying you will look into it but vote before doing so, as if it doesn't matter if storr has posted something useful or not. Because it doesn't. Think about what I'm doing for a sec. There's 24hrsish before deadline. | ||
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Vanesco
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Balla24
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On October 31 2013 10:44 Vanesco wrote: Balla you mentioned before that you are holding off your reads because of lurkers. Now that most of us have said something, may I ask what reads you have, especially since you keep asking people on their opinions on others. It seems to me like you should have some info that could be useful to town since we are starting to get into early votes. I've already stopped holding back. I was particularly worried about nyxnyx sheeping. Right now my scum reads are July and Storrzerg. I'm neutral on Jonnylaw still. | ||
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Vanesco
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Balla24
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