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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 01 2013 03:01 GMT
#239
Odinofpergo is completely ignoring this game while playing the newbie so I really don't think that is a good sign.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 01 2013 03:14 GMT
#241
On November 01 2013 12:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
He hasnt posted anything though. Of the people we can actually discuss, who do you think is scum?

I'm really not sure. Lots of nulls.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 01 2013 03:30 GMT
#244
On November 01 2013 12:22 Oatsmaster wrote:
Actually can you expand on why you think Im scum?

I see JJD as very likely town. I see you jumping on lynch bait because JJD said that thing about others also supporting a hzflank lynch. I think it makes you scummy. That's about as far as it goes for me right now. maybe Pandain can elaborate on whatever he was saying.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 01 2013 03:41 GMT
#249
On November 01 2013 12:40 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 12:30 Grackaroni wrote:
On November 01 2013 12:22 Oatsmaster wrote:
Actually can you expand on why you think Im scum?

I see JJD as very likely town. I see you jumping on lynch bait because JJD said that thing about others also supporting a hzflank lynch. I think it makes you scummy. That's about as far as it goes for me right now. maybe Pandain can elaborate on whatever he was saying.

yeah you see, I dont like this reason. This is that Oats is bad. And him being bad means hes scum. Except I often am actually bad as town and want to lynch obvious town.

Oooh can you provide some examples of this?

Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 01 2013 04:02 GMT
#250
I was kind of serious ^_^ I wanted to hear more about that.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 01 2013 04:47 GMT
#252
Do you think I'm scummy for pushing you?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 01 2013 04:50 GMT
#253
You said earlier you didn't like my reasoning.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 01 2013 04:51 GMT
#255
On November 01 2013 13:50 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 13:47 Grackaroni wrote:
Do you think I'm scummy for pushing you?

I thought you were scummy, now Im not so sure. Currently Im not gonna lynch you day 1.

can you elaborate?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 01 2013 04:55 GMT
#257
what does that mean? I accused you of jumping on lynch bait; that's hardly worthy of being a mafia god. That actually would make you a rather noobish mafia.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 01 2013 05:07 GMT
#260
I read through your filter in Heavyweight Championship and it is ringing some alarm bells
On October 04 2013 01:14 Blazinghand wrote:
Man I'm just gonna throw this out there but we don't have a cop or a vigi this game right? How good are you gonna be with that oats read Marv? cause, well, as you, me, rayne, and clarity know, towns have been burned before for letting Oats live to lylo.

On October 04 2013 02:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
Hey I only fucked up like 1 lylo game.

Other people fucked up the other ones.
I saved one lylo game too. So im like 1 for 1.

Fuck you too BH. I hope you bump on the edge of a doorway and get a small bruise.

You don't normally think of yourself as bad...
On October 02 2013 13:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 13:31 Blazinghand wrote:
Look, Oats, you have to admit, it IS pretty weird that Risen hasn't been trying to convince me, right? Like, even drawing some weird unflipped associative tell shit you can't just go and say "I'm not going to try to convince BH, who's literally in the thread right now and rather influential as a town player, that HF is scum". You also have to admit, do you not, that given that holyflare IS LITERALLY A NEWBIE, it's possible he doesn't get what playing the newb card means? It's possible that yes, the reaction should be suspicion, but also an attempt to draw him into conversation? That not doing that is sub-optimal, and therefore scummy?

Literally a newbie doesnt mean you play the noob card unless you think it helps you. I only remember playing the noob card in my first few scumgames but none of my towngames because it served no purpose.
Why do you think Holyflare is a complete and total idiot that is bad at mafia?

Only when it is serves a purpose to do it.

On October 03 2013 21:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
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On October 03 2013 21:18 Clarity_nl wrote:
On October 03 2013 21:17 Oatsmaster wrote:
BH's vote is still on me, which is a good thing for him


Like, why do I have to quote this post and ask you what you mean.
Why can't you just say what you mean, instead.

What do you mean?

Townies always want to lynch townOats

On October 03 2013 21:27 Oatsmaster wrote:
yeah I dont mean townies always want to lynch me, I mean ONLY townies want to lynch Townoats

This is also strange considering your original reaction to me/Pandain. I was hoping you would continue your OMGUS on me so that I could be more sure of my read but I'm still reasonably convinced.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 01 2013 05:12 GMT
#263
On November 01 2013 12:40 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 12:30 Grackaroni wrote:
On November 01 2013 12:22 Oatsmaster wrote:
Actually can you expand on why you think Im scum?

I see JJD as very likely town. I see you jumping on lynch bait because JJD said that thing about others also supporting a hzflank lynch. I think it makes you scummy. That's about as far as it goes for me right now. maybe Pandain can elaborate on whatever he was saying.

yeah you see, I dont like this reason. This is that Oats is bad. And him being bad means hes scum. Except I often am actually bad as town and want to lynch obvious town.

Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 01 2013 05:18 GMT
#265
On November 01 2013 14:17 Oatsmaster wrote:
Hm?

you said you were bad. You weren't saying earlier "not good"
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 01 2013 05:20 GMT
#266
I want to know why you are calling yourself bad and making it out as if my reasoning is shitty when you don't actually view yourself as a bad player.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 01 2013 05:22 GMT
#268
On November 01 2013 14:20 Oatsmaster wrote:
And you think they mean different things?

On November 01 2013 14:11 Oatsmaster wrote:
Dude Im not bad. Im just not GOOD. You see. And you are calling me scum because you think Im good as town. RIGHT?
Thats inaccurate.

You certainly do.

Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 01 2013 05:24 GMT
#270
I've seen town Oats. Town Oats would be arguing with me in all caps right now.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 01 2013 05:39 GMT
#272
How is my read bad exactly Oatsmaster? You eventually agreed scum would be more likely to attack JJD so that point must be valid. And rather than being honest you lied about being bad in order to discredit my case. Also discrediting me since you were calling me scum for saying JJD was town.

It also doesn't help that because one scum targeted you last game you OMGUS the two people to accuse you and throw out all of your previous notion on how scum players would interact with you.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 01 2013 05:58 GMT
#276
On November 01 2013 14:47 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 14:39 Grackaroni wrote:
How is my read bad exactly Oatsmaster? You eventually agreed scum would be more likely to attack JJD so that point must be valid. And rather than being honest you lied about being bad in order to discredit my case. Also discrediting me since you were calling me scum for saying JJD was town.

It also doesn't help that because one scum targeted you last game you OMGUS the two people to accuse you and throw out all of your previous notion on how scum players would interact with you.

Reallly Grack? You think my vote is based on the fact that Pandain voted for me? Nope. Its based on the fact that he only voted and did NOTHING ELSE. NOTHING. Fucking bullshit.


Your read is bad because it has a few preconceptions.
1. That Oatsmaster is good enough to see between lynchbait and scum.
2. That JJD is town at that time.
Isnt your read the opposite of OMGUS yourself Grack?

It has like nothing to do with me being 'scummy'. Its not even meta, its worse than meta.
I lied where exactly?

Also if you checked properly, you will notice that most of the time, I will call the dude who called me scum, scummier because of that read, it just ends up that the dude is town.

Yeah ok Grack is scum now. This is like the one thing you could do to change my mind.

1) I do think you are good enough to know that JJD is unlikely to be scum.
2) I think so and you seemed to think so as well when you said it was true that scum would be more likely to attack JJD than to hard defend him.

You lied about being bad to fit your own agenda. (defend yourself/discredit case + Grack) You don't actually view yourself as a bad player. That much is clear from your previous game and from this game.


On November 01 2013 14:11 Oatsmaster wrote:
Dude Im not bad. Im just not GOOD. You see. And you are calling me scum because you think Im good as town. RIGHT?
Thats inaccurate.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 01 2013 06:02 GMT
#277
On November 01 2013 14:53 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 14:24 Grackaroni wrote:
I've seen town Oats. Town Oats would be arguing with me in all caps right now.


Just saw this but I don't think that's a good rule to follow lol grackapack

meh you read through his filter and you tell me.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 01 2013 06:25 GMT
#279
On November 01 2013 15:12 Oatsmaster wrote:
Yeah I thought JJD was town LATER but not at that time. And my comment about the scumteam is LATER and not at that time.

I exaggerate a lot so bad = not so bad and good = very very good. I really dont know why you call me scum because I choose different words from what you expect.

I know you said it later but you were explaining currently why my read was bad and that's not a current reason for it being bad unless you changed your mind on JarJar?

It's intentional. You explain it best in what I quoted.

On October 02 2013 13:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 13:31 Blazinghand wrote:
Look, Oats, you have to admit, it IS pretty weird that Risen hasn't been trying to convince me, right? Like, even drawing some weird unflipped associative tell shit you can't just go and say "I'm not going to try to convince BH, who's literally in the thread right now and rather influential as a town player, that HF is scum". You also have to admit, do you not, that given that holyflare IS LITERALLY A NEWBIE, it's possible he doesn't get what playing the newb card means? It's possible that yes, the reaction should be suspicion, but also an attempt to draw him into conversation? That not doing that is sub-optimal, and therefore scummy?

Literally a newbie doesnt mean you play the noob card unless you think it helps you. I only remember playing the noob card in my first few scumgames but none of my towngames because it served no purpose.
Why do you think Holyflare is a complete and total idiot that is bad at mafia?

You don't think of yourself as bad yet you say you are. You are making yourself out to be bad in order to serve a purpose.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 01 2013 06:34 GMT
#282
On November 01 2013 13:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
But seriously, anyone who has played one game knows that Im not even near marv/Palmar level of goodness so lynching me for being bad is not what scum would do. Because its blatently untrue. Scum would probably jump on JJD actually, not defend him hardcorely. I feel.

you used bad here as well. I'll let others comment and sleep on it. Definitely want to hear some opinion from the Panda.
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