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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
November 02 2013 23:03 GMT
#724
Yea unquestionably we need to be lynching into the non fuba voters group on day2.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
November 02 2013 23:15 GMT
#727
Oats - 0 scum hunting, votes for pandain never pushes him and goes afk and he has continued to be useless during the night.
Asinine - obvious reasons
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
November 02 2013 23:23 GMT
#729
Asinine I agree with. For LJ I would like to see more from him, I was ok with most of his posts leading up to the hz lynch.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
November 02 2013 23:23 GMT
#730
On November 03 2013 08:22 hzflank wrote:
In 40 minutes we will know for sure whether Grack is scum. If Oats dies, lynch Grack.


Why?
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
November 03 2013 00:02 GMT
#739
Awesome
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
November 03 2013 00:07 GMT
#746
Pandain any thoughts on Oats pushing for Asinine during the night? Mafia gave up on him and decided to try to bus or what?
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
November 03 2013 13:38 GMT
#790
Where is Stutters? He has been AWOL for quite awhile now.

What are your reasons for voting Bereft LJ?

I am on board with the idea that most of the mafia team are probably lurkers. Mafia has been incredibly demotivated the entire game. Reading mkfuba's basterd game he at least put some effort in as mafia, this game he didn't try whatsoever and just let himself die without putting up a fight. Oats also did absolutely nothing all game. It makes sense that they wouldn't be motivated to try if their teammates were afk/about to be replaced.

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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
November 03 2013 21:50 GMT
#825
I am good with a bereft lynch.

Over-explaining what is just a pressure vote.
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On November 01 2013 01:32 Bereft wrote:
given that activity is low, it generates discussion by putting someone in the hot seat, forcing them to defend themselves while at the same time forcing the rest of town to interact with said individual. in this game it's worth at least some consideration since not only are there more scum but the set up discourages bussing to an extent. I'm not advocating a blind lynch - it's not a 31% chance that we lynch scum but a 31% chance that we pressure scum day 1.

##Vote: Pandain


Soft defending Oats a bit
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On October 31 2013 11:37 Bereft wrote:
why oatsmaster? do you like picking individuals who aren't around to defend themselves, mr. grackaroni?


I initially had a pretty town read on grack considering he was the only one who seemed to care about the game fof the first 12 hours or so, but now I find it incongruous that he suddenly tunnels on oats for pushing easy lynch bait, when going back to reread the filters, I find like a 1 liner from oats on the subject, and a much harder push from laughing jack. while I would agree the "I make mistakes as town" defense is weak, this post in particular seemed a bit like he was grasping to me

two waaay different contexts. in one oats is blatantly being told he sucks balls, which would raise anyone's hackes.


Low activity and multiple excuses for low activity

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On November 02 2013 03:16 Bereft wrote:
hey guys sorry for the afk. got too caught up with halloween festivities and now hungover at work.

fwiw (which i know is not much) i had no intention of actually leaving my vote on pandain - thought i'd have time to come back before the deadline . am aware of what a total cop out afk vote it looks like and i understand the suspicion.


All this combined with the fact that bereft left a vote on Pandain and then went afk.

1 final random thing I noticed. In one of Oats final posts he refers to bereft as a she.
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On November 03 2013 03:19 Oatsmaster wrote:

Bereft hasnt posted much of anything so lurker but depending on what she posts, I could totally be up to lynch her. Lets see.


I looked through their history's and they have never played in the same game before and I don't see anything in bereft's recent posts that indicates she's female. However, usually people who roll mafia together will add each other on skype and that would be an easy way to learn she is female. This could be nothing tho (Oats could have found out some other way etc) just wanted to add it to see what others thought.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
November 03 2013 21:54 GMT
#826
One thing we should consider tho is if Bereft is mafia then that would make Asinine very likely town. Bereft immediately jumps on the Asinine wagon and votes him. Seems really unlikely they could both be mafia in that case since Asinine's lynch ends the game.

Asinine can you post your thoughts on Bereft?
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
November 03 2013 23:04 GMT
#832
Ah yea checking back through voice mafia found this
game they both played. So ignore that point.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
November 04 2013 00:11 GMT
#834
Hopeless what are your thought on berett? How about LJ? Why are you voting Asinine?
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
November 04 2013 00:29 GMT
#836
You realize Pandain isn't even voting for asinine now right.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
November 04 2013 02:37 GMT
#860
If we look at the trio of asinine/hopeless/bereft it is almost impossible for asinine + hopless or asinine + bereft to be the mafia combos, if they stuck with the current votes. At least if they aren't idiots. Just because they would be dangerously close to ending their own game.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
November 04 2013 02:50 GMT
#867
If asinine is mafia then who is his scummate? tehpoofter/hopeless/bereft/LJ all voting for him.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
November 04 2013 03:21 GMT
#871
I am getting nervous about stutters not posting in so long but not only did Oats mess with stutters he was also one of the first guys to target fuba with this post

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On November 02 2013 01:13 Stutters695 wrote:
Well I was hoping Fuba/Hz would have posted by now since I want to see what they say, but I want to get this out there sooner rather than later so other people can give their input also.

Fuba usually is a low post, high analysis player. That analysis is non-existent in his vote on Hz. If memory serves he usually has no problem saying he doesn't know until he is certain someone is scum. I'm at work, phone posting, so I can't check past games. This does remind me far too much of Basterd Mini where he struggled to push anyone (as scum) who wasn't actually scum because he struggles finding reasons. Consequently, he lurked a lot d1 until he had stuff to weigh in on during massive posts.

The only reason I'm not pushing him 100% right now is if he is really busy he wouldn't have a lot of time and I can't remember any games off the top of my head on how he played in one where he was limited on time.

Anyone experienced with him want to weigh in on that?


He did still vote for HZ at first but he eventually switched and hammered fuba. If he was bussing fuba for town cred wouldn't he have just voted fuba after making this post instead of making himself look worse by voting HZ first?
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
November 04 2013 03:29 GMT
#872
I am nervous when all the most suspicious people in the town are voting for asinine.

Maybe JarJar is mafia with asinine and he just randomly decided he couldn't leave his vote on Pandain and it would be too suspicious to be the last vote on hz so he was forced to bus fuba.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
November 04 2013 03:41 GMT
#874
Hopeless you have no problem with bereft voting pandain for "pressure" then disappearing while there was a contested lynch between a mafia and town?
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
November 04 2013 03:54 GMT
#879
I see, would you have said the same thing about oat's vote on pandain?

Any reservations about Oats targeting asinine before he died?
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
November 04 2013 04:15 GMT
#883
Obviously Oat's vote isn't the exact same but the fact that he put an early vote on Pandain then disappeared for the rest of the day is what I was referring to.

Anyway, so assuming asinine is mafia who do you think his mafia buddy is?
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
November 04 2013 04:17 GMT
#884
It would be great if tehpoofter could answer that also.
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