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Laughing Jack
Profile Joined September 2012
Finland50 Posts
November 01 2013 10:51 GMT
#330
On November 01 2013 19:48 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 19:46 Laughing Jack wrote:
On November 01 2013 19:39 Grackaroni wrote:
Yeah I'm ok with getting rid of Laughing Jack.

This might be difficult for you but try to use your head.
I'd love to hear what kind of backwards logic makes you want to lynch me.

You can be useless or an ass but you just can't be both.

I'm not being an ass, I just don't have the patience to babytalk people who refuse to use their heads.
But is that the reason you want to lynch me? Because then I think you just promoted yourself to worst player in the game.
Laughing Jack
Profile Joined September 2012
Finland50 Posts
November 01 2013 11:00 GMT
#333
On November 01 2013 19:47 Oatsmaster wrote:
ohhhh I thought you were asking those to Grack.

On November 01 2013 16:12 Laughing Jack wrote:
Your sacrifice is noted,
What do you two think about the current votes?

I can understand how you would think that since this is clearly directed to Grackaroni alone

But even if you missed it it doesn't matter too much to my point, because even if I hadn't asked you that question, you still didn't take the opportunity to do anything pro-town by yourself. And you're not a newbie so you know well that's what's pro-town to do, and that's what I expected from you when I made Grack back of.

There could had been reasons for why you didn't.
Like you were tired of the game after the Spamfest with Grack and didn't feel like inquiring.
or
That you busy doing something else.
But if that was the case I don't understand why you wouldn't had just said so which makes the conclusion that you were here but had no motive to further the town.
Laughing Jack
Profile Joined September 2012
Finland50 Posts
November 01 2013 11:06 GMT
#336
On November 01 2013 19:53 Grackaroni wrote:
Consider it an useless ass policy lynch. Trust me, that's going to be a thing!

You can call me an ass which might be true to some extent but if you think I'm useless your brain isn't working for you.

also it's kind of hypocritical to talk about others policy lynching when you're a candidate for one-line spam policy-lynch.
Which unlike being an ass, is actually detrimental to town. I really hope you don't plan to keep one-liner posting all through the game. You will make the game near unreadable at some point.
Laughing Jack
Profile Joined September 2012
Finland50 Posts
November 01 2013 11:12 GMT
#339
On November 01 2013 20:04 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 20:00 Laughing Jack wrote:
On November 01 2013 19:47 Oatsmaster wrote:
ohhhh I thought you were asking those to Grack.

On November 01 2013 16:12 Laughing Jack wrote:
Your sacrifice is noted,
What do you two think about the current votes?

I can understand how you would think that since this is clearly directed to Grackaroni alone

But even if you missed it it doesn't matter too much to my point, because even if I hadn't asked you that question, you still didn't take the opportunity to do anything pro-town by yourself. And you're not a newbie so you know well that's what's pro-town to do, and that's what I expected from you when I made Grack back of.

There could had been reasons for why you didn't.
Like you were tired of the game after the Spamfest with Grack and didn't feel like inquiring.
or
That you busy doing something else.
But if that was the case I don't understand why you wouldn't had just said so which makes the conclusion that you were here but had no motive to further the town.

Did I post after you called Grack off me? Like one post maybe. Yeah maybe I couldnt post. Huh. Think about that.

You're probably syllo.

Even in your defence you're not even saying that you couldn't post, you're just wifoming that you might not had been able to post without actually claiming that you couldn't post? Seriously.

And yeah, you posted, (there was about a one hour gap (which is not a lot of time) and since then you've been around regularly.
Laughing Jack
Profile Joined September 2012
Finland50 Posts
November 01 2013 11:30 GMT
#343
On November 01 2013 20:16 Oatsmaster wrote:
So LJ, who do you MOST want to die today?

If the deadline was right now, Hzflanks or you Oatsmaster. They are the flips who right now would give us information whom I'd feel comfortable lynching.

But it's hard to say who I want dead tonight since half the players in the game have barely participated and I hate lurkers. There is hopefully an increase in activity before tonight.
Laughing Jack
Profile Joined September 2012
Finland50 Posts
November 01 2013 12:02 GMT
#350
On November 01 2013 20:35 Oatsmaster wrote:
Grack, none of those reasons make Jack scum, they may make him an asshole and bad but not SCUM. You have to say why he is scum because he does all these things.

Jack, can you elaborate on your Hzflank read cause I think he is leaning town for me.

I picked him because his flip would generate most information and discussion.
I'm interested why you have a green read on him.
Laughing Jack
Profile Joined September 2012
Finland50 Posts
November 01 2013 13:17 GMT
#356
On November 01 2013 21:02 Laughing Jack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 20:35 Oatsmaster wrote:
Grack, none of those reasons make Jack scum, they may make him an asshole and bad but not SCUM. You have to say why he is scum because he does all these things.

Jack, can you elaborate on your Hzflank read cause I think he is leaning town for me.

I picked him because his flip would generate most information and discussion.
I'm interested why you have a green read on him.

To elaborate.
hzflank hasn't done enough to make me lean town or scum on him. Early on cases are generally weak and when the majority of the players gives very little to go on it's better to lynch the person who will give us most information going into day2.
Laughing Jack
Profile Joined September 2012
Finland50 Posts
November 01 2013 13:30 GMT
#359
On November 01 2013 21:36 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 20:30 Laughing Jack wrote:
On November 01 2013 20:16 Oatsmaster wrote:
So LJ, who do you MOST want to die today?

If the deadline was right now, Hzflanks or you Oatsmaster. They are the flips who right now would give us information whom I'd feel comfortable lynching.

But it's hard to say who I want dead tonight since half the players in the game have barely participated and I hate lurkers. There is hopefully an increase in activity before tonight.
Dude, ur all over the place. Do you not have a scumread on me anymore? Did grack change your mind?

I think trying to claim false towncred is suspicious. It's not something I come around about. However I reconsidered lynching you today since you might just be newbie-town and you're at least somewhat active.
Laughing Jack
Profile Joined September 2012
Finland50 Posts
November 01 2013 13:42 GMT
#360
On November 01 2013 22:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
So how would lynching hzflank and him flipping town give us information and lynch scum day 2?. So far nobody that wants to lynch for information has ever given me a good answer.

He can flip scum too, which obviously is better then a townflip. It's hard to get information day 2 from a townflip since anything a townie can do technically a scum can also do but over time it usually becomes more apparent who has an agenda.
And if you have to lynch for information it's better to lynch someone many have interacted with then someone few have interacted with.

If there is a scum case I agree with of course I would rather lynch that scum. But now there wasn't
Laughing Jack
Profile Joined September 2012
Finland50 Posts
November 01 2013 14:06 GMT
#363
On November 01 2013 22:47 Oatsmaster wrote:
So are you lynching him because he is scum, or are you lynching him because regardless of the flip, he will provide info. Info that I have no idea about. That so far you have adequately explain.

I'll try to break it down as simply as I can.

If you lynch a scummy player you have a higher chance to lynch mafia then if you lynch a nonscummy player.

If you lynch a player many players have interacted with, knowing his alignment gives generate more information then knowing the alignmentof a player few have interacted with.

This can very roughly give you these scenarios
[image loading]

what you do then is compare the factors.
(A) How much higher chance does 'wherebugsgo' have to flip mafia then 'marvellosity'
and
(B)How much more information will lynching 'wherebugsgo' provide compared to lynching 'marvellosity'

if the difference in (A) is marginal and the difference in (B) is significant it's better to lynch the person that will generate most information from (B).
Laughing Jack
Profile Joined September 2012
Finland50 Posts
November 01 2013 19:04 GMT
#411
I took a break from the thread and I'll be unexpectedly going to a party tonight, I'll try to find some corner and read up on the thread and vote later tonight. I probably want to lynch into the first three quarters of of the day lurkers, but not 1-posters.
Laughing Jack
Profile Joined September 2012
Finland50 Posts
November 01 2013 22:57 GMT
#473
##Unvote:
##Vote: hzflank
Laughing Jack
Profile Joined September 2012
Finland50 Posts
November 02 2013 10:40 GMT
#606
I voted hzflank over fuba because of all the lurkers coming back and bandwagoning fuba felt really strange and scum-driven. I really did not expect mkfuba to flip scum after seeing that. I'm glad he did though.
Laughing Jack
Profile Joined September 2012
Finland50 Posts
November 03 2013 10:22 GMT
#787
Mafia played a really weak day 1 and it would not surprise me if both remaining mafia were amongst the early lurkers.
I'll be reading some filters and be back with who I want to lynch.
Laughing Jack
Profile Joined September 2012
Finland50 Posts
November 03 2013 10:34 GMT
#788
Okay, I want to lynch bereft today, thoughts people?
Laughing Jack
Profile Joined September 2012
Finland50 Posts
November 03 2013 10:35 GMT
#789
##Vote: Bereft
Laughing Jack
Profile Joined September 2012
Finland50 Posts
November 03 2013 14:30 GMT
#792
On November 03 2013 23:15 JarJarDrinks wrote:
##Vote Laughing Jack

I've been saying all game that his posts have no consistency. Totally abonding his scumread on me for what seemed like no reason. Speaking of which:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2013 04:04 Laughing Jack wrote:
I took a break from the thread and I'll be unexpectedly going to a party tonight, I'll try to find some corner and read up on the thread and vote later tonight. I probably want to lynch into the first three quarters of of the day lurkers, but not 1-posters.
OK, this post was after he already said that he didn't want to lynch me anymore. He had already posted his diagram and had said that he wanted to lynch HZ or oats.

So when I read that he's going to a party and will try to find some corner to read and vote, doesn't that sound like there's a chance he wont make it back to the thread? So why wouldn't he move his vote off of me and on to someone he does want to lynch just incase?

I think that if fuba wasn't threatened, we would have never seen LJ again last night. It's not a coincidence that he managed to find time to vote right when Fuba pulled into a tie w/ HZ.

And that doesn't even mention the fact that he said he wanted to vote a lurker in that post and voted the super active guy.

You're absolutely atrocious, read Oats filter and tell me I'm his scumbuddy.
Laughing Jack
Profile Joined September 2012
Finland50 Posts
November 03 2013 14:52 GMT
#793
On November 03 2013 22:38 Mig wrote:
Where is Stutters? He has been AWOL for quite awhile now.

What are your reasons for voting Bereft LJ?

I am on board with the idea that most of the mafia team are probably lurkers. Mafia has been incredibly demotivated the entire game. Reading mkfuba's basterd game he at least put some effort in as mafia, this game he didn't try whatsoever and just let himself die without putting up a fight. Oats also did absolutely nothing all game. It makes sense that they wouldn't be motivated to try if their teammates were afk/about to be replaced.


I went over nearly everyone l don't lean townie on and with Bereft I couldn't find the slightest thing to make me feel he's town.
Laughing Jack
Profile Joined September 2012
Finland50 Posts
November 03 2013 16:01 GMT
#794
On November 03 2013 23:52 Laughing Jack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2013 22:38 Mig wrote:
Where is Stutters? He has been AWOL for quite awhile now.

What are your reasons for voting Bereft LJ?

I am on board with the idea that most of the mafia team are probably lurkers. Mafia has been incredibly demotivated the entire game. Reading mkfuba's basterd game he at least put some effort in as mafia, this game he didn't try whatsoever and just let himself die without putting up a fight. Oats also did absolutely nothing all game. It makes sense that they wouldn't be motivated to try if their teammates were afk/about to be replaced.


I went over nearly everyone l don't lean townie on and with Bereft I couldn't find the slightest thing to make me feel he's town.

If it's a bit unclear. Bereft is the only one without a single townie looking post.
Laughing Jack
Profile Joined September 2012
Finland50 Posts
November 03 2013 17:56 GMT
#796
Pandain, what do you think about Bereft?
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