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##update Koshi did i do it right? | ||
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##Update Koshi you now have 1 follower! | ||
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On October 28 2013 06:37 marvellosity wrote: I have certain abilities at night that I can use based on how many people ##Twerk for me during the day. I think I'd rather deal with it a bit later in the day though, although I'm not going to stop anyone doing it if they want to. alright well ill see how you're playing day 1 and we can take it from there, I don't mind giving you powers. I kinda regret giving koshi power now if thats how it works for everyone but I guess it will help us discern his alignment. | ||
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@oats/prom what do you guys make of raynpelikoneet and koshi willingly powering sentinel's one time power so easily? I personally have a scum read on sentinel so far and I worry for what is about to happen. I have a feeling a town member was duped into helping two scum members or am I wrong here? | ||
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On October 28 2013 12:20 Oatsmaster wrote: Lol cottonCandy. Scum dont want town to have powers. Lol. So if marv is town, Prome's post makes perfect sense for scum to post. Rayn and koshi arent scum together. Probably. If sent is scum, then yeah rayn and koshi arent scum together If sent is town, its more likely that Rayn and koshi are both town. But its pure speculation at this point. I don't agree, I really doubt town has like what 6-7 power roles? that doesn't make any sense to me. So it doesn't look like Promethelax is trying to stop town from getting all their powers while scum is just useless. That would be a stupid game don't you think? There is scum for sure in some of these power roles. Right now im leaning towards sentinel and rayn but need to see what their powers do i guess. | ||
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On October 28 2013 12:26 Oatsmaster wrote: What? I only see 2 people, me and marv that need charging. Other than sent s which has already been completed. So if me and marv are town, scum really doesnt want us to get charged. Right COTTONCANDY?? from what I surmised koshi also has a charging ability because he wants everyone to update him (only person I have activated so far and regret it now that I know what's going on) so do you think that you, marv, koshi, and sent are all town? I don't. You and marv look town to me, null on koshi, scum on sent. I think he is the scum charger. | ||
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On October 28 2013 12:31 Promethelax wrote: Do you have any reason to believe that Marv is or isn't town? You've tried to attack me because he is town but haven't managed to say that he is town. Oats, now. On October 28 2013 06:42 marvellosity wrote: There's a somewhat subtle aspect to it that makes me want to leave it until later in the day, because in part it relies on my reads on players. this is the post that has me leaning town on him for now. I don't see any reason to divulge that this early if you are scum, or wait until you get reads on players since, well, you are scum. I would be interested to hear oats read on him though. | ||
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On October 28 2013 12:42 Promethelax wrote: Which is why I asked oats and not you numbnuts. Let Jared answer for himself In The future, he is a big boy. The game is slow so far and I just want to type anyways could you do a read through of sentinel's filter for me and see if you recognize why I think he is scum? that would be great. | ||
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On October 28 2013 12:51 Promethelax wrote: Because sent's only goal this whole game has been to power himself up and hasn't cared about anyone's alignment at all or tried to do anything but get his power from the hosts? that's a good point but I don't know his playstyle so I don't hold that against him this early. I was more referring to the fact that On October 28 2013 06:50 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Yeah sure why not. I do like to twerk, and I'd rather cater to marv than koshi, who seems to have disappeared. ##Twerk marvellosity Anyways. I have a power that I would like some people to help me charge up. ##15 Here's the gameplan. To charge up my power, someone, anyone, posts ##14, then someone else does ##13 and so on. When we get to ##1 the power is charged and ready to use :D. You can post multiple numbers in the countdown but not consecutive ones. So you can do 14 and 12, but not 14 and 13. This is a blatant contradiction. If you go back and read the timestamps koshi was still very clearly in the thread. He had no problem buddying up with marv (a strong player) but requests compensation from Koshi and makes up an excuse that is clearly incorrect. On October 28 2013 07:02 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: KOSHI DIDN'T ANSWER WHAT UPDATE DOES. marv at least left it ambiguously pleasant. rolefishing here. On October 28 2013 07:05 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: I meant what I get out of it -__- my bad again. On October 28 2013 07:10 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Well as the old saying goes, if you tickle my scrotum I shall tickle yours in return. ##Update Koshi did not get an answer to what it did yet now has no problem powering him up despite nothing changing except completely his objective. This is a scum state of mind because now that you are in a position of power you don't give a shit what other people can do, you hold the cards. it could even be as simple as two scum powering eachother up. After he gets his power he promptly leaves the thread without doing any scumhunting or posting anything really. | ||
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On October 28 2013 12:55 Promethelax wrote: Seuss, no more role fishing without purpose. What do you think about oats and why? Rayn, I'll take you at your word that your power usage isn't alignment indicative at the moment. I'm sure you can figure out what I was getting at. I still like pandain for the moment based on his try Harding. I do t have meta on him so I get to read him on his play, a nice early try hard adds so e green points for now. Cotton candy, if you are so anxious to type why not say something useful. Early reads? I thought my reads have been pretty straightforward so far. You/Oats/Marv = town. Pandain/Koshi/Rayn = Null Sentinel = Scum Everything else = no comment atm | ||
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On October 28 2013 13:03 raynpelikoneet wrote: Hey Candyman, do you think Sent is telling truth about his power being one-shot? I don't plan on leaving it up to chance so don't really care. Unless he does something seriously amazing for town or starts playing beastly I plan to see what his role is by night. | ||
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If it's not convincing enough then I just need to try harder to find scum. | ||
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On October 28 2013 13:19 Promethelax wrote: Is not that, it's the casual manner he seemed to approach things in. There doesn't seem like that underplaying worry and over-shoulder-watching that you get with scum. I dunno, it's all feels. Understandable and I respect people that can do that. I only know the way of the blade, dissecting posts and taking actions at face value to find out who doesn't belong in this town. | ||
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##Yolo Promethelax ##Refudiate Oatsmaster ##Twerk So does anyone disagree with my sentinel case at this point? He came back to the thread and just apologized and says he waiting on his power? Gotta pressure this guy. ##Vote: Sentinel | ||
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On October 29 2013 01:08 marvellosity wrote: I really just wanna see what this power of his is :x Why you twerk when I say not to twerk yet :< You said that a day ago, and I really wanted to get this stuff out of the way so we can just play the game. (not bitter or anything) | ||
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On October 29 2013 01:14 marvellosity wrote: It was like 16 hours ago, and we're not even halfway through Day 1 yet. I also said I had reasons for wanting to delay it, based on my developing reads. The fact you ignored this makes me pretty sad, when I think you've been generally attentive to other stuff so far. That's fine, I let a minor annoyance affect my play and it will cost me. Moving on and I assume we will be pals again later. I guess what I'm getting at here with the clarity thing is: Look at how StrongandBig re-entered the thread and compare it to how clarity_nl entered the thread, it is essentially almost identical but people are praising strongandbig and shunning clarity. Seems like a case of double standards here that I would like to pursue. | ||
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On October 29 2013 01:22 marvellosity wrote: It's simple from my perspective - I don't think Clarity should be believing what he wrote as town, whereas I have no such issue with s&b. So it is based on their metas then correct? I would like to hear from other people why snb = town clarity = bad all the same. Any questions for me before I go get lunch? | ||
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I don't really have a problem with cleaning out the rifraff either and I'll gladly vote for OOHCHILD. it's essentially a random lynch with a bias towards someone being intentionally useless and I have no qualms about that. sadface to koshi's list, pretty contentless bar a few people like WaveofShadow and Seuss. Decent enough I guess. @Pandain I have a hard time believing you could make cases and write in detail yesterday while on meds. Seems like a strange excuse but whatever. Not here to judge on that kind of stuff but if it comes down to the wire it certainly wont help you. | ||
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On October 29 2013 09:09 VayneAuthority wrote: It could simply be one of those cases where a certain playstyle irks you the wrong way and you always find them scummy regardless. I went back and read that filter at your discretion and that is what it felt like to me more. Clarity_nl simply despises Oatsmaster's playstyle and it seems will always find him scummy regardless of what he does. I am not ready to vote for him based on another game. for filter | ||
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On October 29 2013 09:15 marvellosity wrote: HotCottonCandy, now you're exposed, would you mind telling us why you decided to smurf? to get away from meta and such and just play the game. probably won't be as fun now! | ||
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On October 29 2013 09:22 Pandain wrote: I could see OOChild/Clarity being scum/3P (not sure in which order). Not sure that town could successfully be on the track of two scums, however. Doesn't seem that crazy considering the potential town prowess we have in this game. Scum are probably struggling to keep up. | ||
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On October 29 2013 23:15 marvellosity wrote: This is still giving me the heebie jeebies Yea I brought this up earlier in the game and is part of the reason I have been pushing sentinel. Gaming the set-up in small games like this is actually extremely powerful even if others find it lame. I highly doubt town just has 5 charging powers running around in thread in a 13 man game. Sentinel looks by far the worst on this list. Could be Koshi but his recent posting is way better, so I still feel really good about a sentinel lynch today. As far as clarity and OOHChild go This OOHChild fellow seems to be doing bad things to all my strongest townreads (I doubt shun is something good) and is kinda just refusing to find scum besides making a weak case on marv(lol why?) That is the only thing that makes me believe he could possibly be town. If he's a smurf and making a case on marv day 1 to save himself then he is town. If he's just a new player then could go either way. this is where it helps to know these things. Since I blew my cover ill say this about clarity: Martyring is my least favorite thing in mafia, With that said, On October 29 2013 23:07 Clarity_nl wrote: Welp, I think marv is town, sadly. So if marv says I should then I should. Don't have a read on you and oats atm, He has done one thing offensively this game and it consisted of attacking oats. To forget about the only thing you have done in this entire game I have to imagine he is being genuine. So i ask people to switch back to sentinel or I will be voting for OOHChild as my second choice. | ||
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On October 30 2013 00:33 marvellosity wrote: I've no real reason to disbelieve his story that he's played mafia before but not on this site. Im in a position where I want to dispose of him simply due to bad scum teams winning constantly with minimal effort. I would feel pretty good with a scum or town lynch of him lol. But at the same time I know what it is like to be policy voted so I would simply be a hypocrite. I think if we have any town KP power that is the best way to take care of this. | ||
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On October 30 2013 00:35 marvellosity wrote: I guess after all I want to lynch into WoS/Pandain today. What is the cases on them? Pandain has looked flaky but nothing too serious to warrant a lynch. WoS randomly boosted Seuss who I haven't looked into at all but that seems incredibly weird. I guess that's worth pursuing. | ||
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##Unvote ##vote Waveofshadow when's deadline tho? | ||
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On October 30 2013 00:52 marvellosity wrote: rayn what does Koshi forgetting Pandain mean? means either him or sentinel is the scum charger if that wasn't already obvious. Sucks for them that the other 3 are pretty clearly town unless Oats is a scum god now | ||
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The fake power thing seems especially out of place considering how much WoS hates people faking roles as town. zzz | ||
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On October 30 2013 01:55 Oatsmaster wrote: Why is no one wanting to lynch SnB?? I dont understand. same reason no one wants to lynch sentinel, nobody cares about our reads ^^ | ||
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##unvote ##vote:pandain feel pretty good about this in the end. | ||
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On October 30 2013 02:23 raynpelikoneet wrote: Also CandymanAuthority why are you voting for Pandain? Case please if you think he is scum. It's not based on what he is doing but rather what the thread is doing. Go through and count how many times he has been mentioned randomly for pretty much no reason when there isn't even a discussion on him! There is so much light suspicion on him but nobody is pushing him or doing anything about it, it's just oh yea he's scummy maybe idk. This is usually scum when this happens because they are just skating by in thread and their buddies try to make him look bad but not too bad so he blends in. even though he is not playing to his scum meta here I think he has a good chance of flipping scum for other reasons in a nutshell. | ||
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On October 30 2013 02:29 Pandain wrote: This is awful assumption-based reasoning. Perhaps it's that I'm town? You think I'm scum based on how others are reacting to me. yes is that a problem 0o? I can't make a good case on you but I still feel good about it. | ||
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On October 30 2013 02:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: I do not think this is a good reasoning for thinking someone is scum. It just means people are unsure of his alignment, including townies for sure. There is evidence that says - even if scum are casting light suspicion on him without pushing - that townies are doing that aswell. Therefore that cannot possibly tell anything about Pandain's alignment. you are thinking about it the wrong way imo Townies casting suspicion on pandain = led to others doing it to blend in ---> turned into all pandain suspicion getting buried in the mess = suspicious ---> leads me to believe that he was soft pushed by teammates ---> not stupid logic | ||
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On October 30 2013 02:34 marvellosity wrote: HotCottonCandy - do you have a role? Don't want to know what, just whether you do or not. No. | ||
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On October 30 2013 02:49 marvellosity wrote: Alright, so we have this post: Seuss's vote is on Wave at this point, presumably because he believes he's mafia. Why then does he want to make a plan to test the voting powers? You're right Seuss' play really makes no sense here, need an expalanation ASAP. | ||
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On October 30 2013 02:58 marvellosity wrote: Sorry, could you explain what you mean? that is to say he is both making cases AND answering our questions at a very quick pace. He isn't taking forever to think of some bullshit he's just giving us what is going through his mind. Seems very natural. | ||
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On October 30 2013 03:02 Seuss wrote: I think there's a distinct possibility [UoN]Sentinel is scum and a worthy lynch target, with the bonus that we don't murder someone with a potentially important power like Wave before we confirm it actually works. scummy post | ||
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On October 30 2013 03:05 Seuss wrote: Because before Pandain came up again all I saw were two similar powers and I thought it weird to have a straight +1 power and an alternative +1/-1 power. Once Pandain came into the picture I realized my error, and if I'd remembered him sooner I'd have approached everything differently. could you give us something more concrete though? Ignoring the powers of WoS and Pandain what makes WoS scummier then pandain to you? | ||
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On October 30 2013 09:57 Pandain wrote: It seems anti-town he didn't tell us what his power was until it was already activated But does he have any motive for not telling us this as scum? We are going to all find out anyway. There's a difference between being secretive for your own gain and being secretive. For example, I find rayn's "accident" inherently scummier then sentinel not telling us what his power did. How do you use an ability that strong without double checking what you are doing? Doesn't make any sense to me. Akin to this would be sentinel telling us we are all going to get nukes but then only the people that helped countdown get the nukes. Oops! my bad guys! | ||
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On October 30 2013 10:02 WaveofShadow wrote: VA can I ask you something? You might be the only person I have ever heard of who considers forgetting about something someone did earlier a towntell. And I agree with it. You also said in this post that you hate martyring, yet it was apparently not the reason you voted for me (and then later removed it). What are you actual thoughts on me either now or earlier D1, because you haven't said much on the matter and it was a rather large chunk of the day. And what are your current thoughts on OOHCHILD? I voted you for a short time since nobody wanted to kill sentinel and I honestly didn't really have much else so I was just sheeping pretty much. You can even see it in my voting post, I don't vote you for any reason at all. I could see you flipping either way honestly, you didn't pull anything too dick-ish just said you didn't have time during the day which I recognize and know to be true. Just keep up your posting/analysis and I will be able to decipher which alignment you are. Also, nuke somebody. OOHCHILD I thought at first was too brash to be scum but he is quickly approaching Chezinu level. Like just doing crazy shit because he can and seeing if anyone will call his bluff. Probably going to flip scum. | ||
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##Nuke strongandbig Doesn't mention me the entire game then randomly nukes me, hurpadurpa. | ||
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Sentinel threatened to do something if he nuked him so he went with me, the safest option. If SnB does indeed flip scum, please look at Seuss. Because I don't see any reason for the nuke on me over him. | ||
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On October 30 2013 12:08 Pandain wrote: Yeah, so they'll nuke someone suspicious or not nuke at all It isn't going to be alignment indicative unless a townie nukes a scum. No that's too simple look at what I just posted. Things like that are unexplainable. SnB has not mentioned me or Seuss the entire game, and in the leftover pool of players he could "potentially" nuke he chose me over Seuss with barely any justification. These are the kinds of things that lead to scum connections. You could also say that sentinel and SnB planned to do the whole thing where sentinel "threatens" him and he backs off, but seems less likely. Although SnB did do the whole bussing palmar thing so I don't really know if its within his capabilities. | ||
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On October 30 2013 12:09 Pandain wrote: I don't see what you're honestly hoping to gain from this HCC. Only more information through deaths, but that also means we're closer to lylo and normally we would have that amount of deaths with MORE INFORMATION ON A LATER DAY You don't see the gain in the entire bottom-feeding section of the town being eradicated? It's only bad if 2 of the scum are in marv, prom, rayn and I don't think so at this point in the game. | ||
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On October 30 2013 12:17 Pandain wrote: I think, regardless if the the nukes are real or not, you're over-evaluating the information we will have at the end. If I die to Koshi, what will you make of it? I think SnB is scum and so did you two, but we'd have already killed him and like I said would be the only real results. And would help certify we are town. But that's really the only way. SnB nuking you is more suspicious because he fundamentally is showing a disregard of concern, but I wasn't fully fully convinced he was scum; it's the policy nuke that pushed me over the edge and what I am so angry about. I understand, in the end, we will get information. I just think it's better to consolidate on SnB rather then potentially nuke townies for information. Well I still think one of Koshi or Sentinel is the power-upper that is scum and honestly sentinel's ability is weird to be from scum but who knows. If SnB does indeed flip scum im looking at something like SnB/Seuss/(koshi/sentinel) looks like a 3 scum 1 3rd party setup to me so then it would be up to you guys to find the 3rd party player assuming I die. | ||
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Power up roles - Sentinel, Koshi, marv, prom, and oats vote changers - pandain, WoS, Seuss Unknown/etc - OOHCHILD, rayn, SnB Gonna go ahead and game the setup here and say there is 1 scum in each of these lists. Clarity flipped the same role that I am so I'm pretty sure there is 1 more VT. SnB is town from this deduction. OOHCHILD - Now that I know it's kush this doesnt look like his recent townplay at all. He hasn't made any cases or deduced anything worth reading like has recently been the case, he has only been throwing suspicion on random people and then nuking completely different targets. His play is erratic and doesn't make sense. With that said, I don't think he would play this reckless as scum because in an experimental game it's just asking to get shot in the face in some way. Rayn - Not as aggressive as you would like him to be, although I think it's more of him changing his playstyle then anything. He played like this more in Thug Life and Noire and he was town and scum respectively so it's a bit of a null tell there. On the other hand, he isn't actually pushing anything and has been absent for large chunks of the game where I would expect him to otherwise be. The fact that nobody really has any strong opinions in the game about him yet lead me to believe he is most likely the scum from this list. -------------------- Pandain - What exactly has he done this game? Honestly nothing sticks out in my mind. WoS - Glad we let him live, 100% town. if you can't see that from his recent posting then go home. Seuss - From what I understand he is a newbie or close to it and he is simply playing like an earnest one. I don't see any malice in his play he just struggles to not be wishy-washy, probably nervous. By process of elimination, pandain is the scum from this list. Sentinel - gave everyone nukes but he is immune to them. 3rd party anyone? Makes quite a bit of sense is how blase he is this game, doesn't really care to weigh in on anything and just sorta drifting away in his own world. The role and his play lead me to believe 3rd party at this point. Koshi - Similar to pandain, I honestly can't think of what he has done this game. Nuked Pandain though so if im going with my list he isn't scum unless he is a fucking genius. Oats - Great day 1 play, it almost looked too good to be true for town oats. Recently has started slipping up more. Possibly scum here? Marv - Not scum as far as I'm aware. He's pretty easy to read, a less annoying yamato. Promethelax - This is the one I'm the least sure about. The last time I played with him he was 3rd party so I honestly have nothing to base anything off except his play here. Seems a bit too cocky to be scum but that's just a stupid heuristic. Keep an eye on this guy at lategame if we still haven't found the scum on this list by then. He has lapses of logic that just don't make sense at key points in the game. | ||
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Pandain half his filter is about getting angry at the nukes and the other half isn't particularly useful after the first page where he gives us his initial impressions. nothing after that. | ||
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On October 31 2013 03:26 Promethelax wrote: Vayne, did you just make semi arbitrary lists and POE each one individually? I seriously can't agree with any of your conclusions based on the way you went about getting them. Can you go back and read players based on their play and not on gaming the set up. kthx. well I apologize that you don't agree but that's the way I went about it. Instead of my theory tell me what exactly you disagree with because I don't think a pandain/rayn/oats scum team sounds that crazy do you? They are all contributing but at the same time aren't exactly without holes. And to your 2nd question, there is only 3 VTs in this game unless SnB is lying, which would make it only 2. Gonna use logistics here and deduce that a 3 man scum team with a goon here would be a heavily town favored setup. | ||
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On October 31 2013 03:36 Promethelax wrote: I doubt that pandain is scum based on the people who have spoken out about his past and a certain level of sincerity which feels pretty okay. Oats could be scum, his early game looked really good and that is what he does as scum. But I'm not terribly sure of him one way or the other. Rayn seems much likelier town to me than kush. He was in the thread being not retarded. So even if he is scum he wouldn't be the first for me to kill. I'm not saying that couldn't be the scum team. It wouldn't be totally out of left field but I wouldn't call it the most likely. well that's the fun in mafia especially in a mini of this calibre barring all the martyring/bad play day 1. The solution will never be the obvious one, or even the second choice. | ||
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On October 31 2013 06:05 marvellosity wrote: By the way, Wave may have been killed by a nuke, and the KP blocked/protected by other means. Why would only the kush nuke go off tho? Are you honestly saying that SnB was protected 3 times xD? I see no reason why kush's nuke would get preferential treatment over all the other ones, honestly I'm thinking it was just a giant ploy to see people's hard reads as I expected. | ||
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On October 31 2013 06:10 marvellosity wrote: Obviously the real nuke would be assigned randomly. Don't see why you're asking that. Because you specified that it was blocked/protected which I found strange. I just wanted to see your thought process. Idk ignoring this nuke thing for now until we have more info. | ||
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On October 31 2013 06:21 marvellosity wrote: What do you think he was right about? He put s&b back to null and he was being quite suspicious of rayn. probably rayn, im down with a rayn lynch today. He imploded after my list for no particular reason. Seemed weird. | ||
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On October 31 2013 06:53 Promethelax wrote: My scum read is based on that actually, you are being ignored and not doing anything about it. Like if people ignore me I write a few hundred posts and yell at people. You've been content to post you analysis and vanish. Look, I'm never going to convince you to vote for yourself so I'm not going to continue this conversation. Instead can we talk about your scum reads and who you'd like to lynch. Based on reads and not set up. I would lynch sentinel or rayn based solely on reads. | ||
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On October 31 2013 10:02 Pandain wrote: Yeah I think they would as long as they seem to contribute. This is his second game, correct? Makes sense to be wishy washy especially if he's carrying a persona. It's not about that though its more I think he doesn't care yet is seeming to. Like a more subtle version of SnB The latter is what I find scummy about him not the former. He gives these random big posts explaining reads when nobody really asks for it and has nothing to do with the thread. So he isn't really in touch with the thread. Look recently how he just wrote a big post on me and kush yet doesn't make any conclusions from it. Same with oats. I honestly don't know what to make of it but if you are going to push him you should mention these things not lame stuff like he's being wishy washy, which 3/4th of the game is doing including myself since its a difficult game. | ||
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I wasn't sure what you were referring to in particular, because you expanded on him being wishy washy which isn't specific to him in the slightest. But what is, is the fact that he is posting stuff that is decidedly not helping us find scum. | ||
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On October 31 2013 10:13 marvellosity wrote: I think you just can't read PMs very well. yea pandain you need to see what a cycle and phase is bro | ||
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I would go with doublestacking kush and lynching onegu. | ||
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On November 01 2013 01:08 marvellosity wrote: Excuse me? Last I heard you thought Seuss was a newbie playing without malice, and Pandain was the mafia vote alterer? Those aren't options from what I can see, he is asking specifically about kush and the replacement | ||
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On November 01 2013 01:12 marvellosity wrote: Then "we" lynch the other. Just giving up on your scumreads because Koshi and I talked about Seuss a little bit? nah I would still rather rayn or sentinel get lynched but it's not gonna happen. have to be reasonable here | ||
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On November 01 2013 01:07 Promethelax wrote: Would also be okay lynching you Vayne. Though I think you are better than a nuke. Congratulations. what does this mean btw? Scumread so strong you want a guaranteed kill? | ||
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On November 01 2013 01:13 marvellosity wrote: Nothing to do with being reasonable - the lynch today is so far away from being set in stone it's unbelievable, and you're not bothered about pushing your main scumsuspects? With my limited availability atm it's much closer for me. I'm here until lunch then I usually come online at night and then I won't be here tomorrow before the deadline. | ||
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On November 01 2013 01:16 marvellosity wrote: No, that's not what I mean. I mean that it's not totally obvious who we're lynching today, but you're already pathetically giving up on your mafia suspects because they "aren't going to happen". You've not even tried to make anything happen! Oh I see well that just isn't my style in any case, until I have power over the thread I don't usually hard push anything. So it's not like this is something new or crazy. So why don't you want to lynch rayn/sentinel at this point? | ||
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On November 01 2013 01:21 marvellosity wrote: You usually have mafia suspects and go "well let's lynch someone else because meh" 30 hours before lynchtime? Can rayn/Koshi confirm this is typical behaviour? I don't think meh is the correct word here, I honestly just don't want to deal with a replacement right now in this game I'm already struggling to keep tabs on the players. It's on some one ive flipped flopped back and forth all game, you don't see why I would be fine with getting rid of him? | ||
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On November 01 2013 01:32 marvellosity wrote: When you literally have 3 other mafia suspects and you've called the player in question most recently likely town, no, I don't see why you would be fine getting rid of him just like that. 4* I want oats gone too well that's life then I can't convince you otherwise. gotta ask again why you aren't cool with a rayn or sentinel lynch right now | ||
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On November 01 2013 01:37 marvellosity wrote: Well, people seemed to think I was overstating my points on rayn. Koshi doesn't seem *that* interested, I'd expect him to be more interested if I were on to something. He might still be mafia, but I'm not sure enough on him to push anything like that at the moment, I'd rather give him time to display his true colours. Sentinel does fit the 3p bill, also I think we'll have a lot more information on his alignment when the nukes get used today, if any of them land, so it doesn't seem to be wise to lynch him right now. strongandbig was bang on with his meta analysis of Sentinel as well, he was much more serious in Noir than he has been in this game. Have you ever thought that rayn and koshi might be scum together? Certainly possible. and yes I'm also interested in who rayn nukes or if he even uses it all. If he doesn't nuke anybody I would lynch him on the spot. I was in Noire but died early so I'll have to go look at that | ||
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On November 01 2013 01:39 Onegu wrote: Lol I just got a PM I have a nuke, I will most likely not use it and let it expire. Still reading I put my son to sleep and showered and now power reading. I mean look at this, the guy ninja'd the shit out of me. He seriously isn't gonna use his nuke and let us get any kind of read on him? and you guys wonder why im fine with this smh | ||
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On November 01 2013 02:01 Koshi wrote: You still stand by this HCC? Because if Seuss is town, he must have been extremely clueless this game. There was nothing in his filter about that, it was all "I am a mathematician and an analyst, I know precisely what I am doing". You think I am over thinking his actions in my cases on him? Like his behavior around Oats/Me, Sentinel/WoS? @Oats You didn't say anything about my cases on Seuss. At least Kush was honest. You don't have to spare my feelings. Yea I still think it's true but getting rid of null people isn't a worst case scenario, especially a replacement. If you guys want to change your mind and lynch anyone of sent/rayn/pandain/oats I would gladly do it tho. | ||
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On November 01 2013 07:48 raynpelikoneet wrote: ##Vote: HotCottonCandy I want the explanation for why WoS had a scumread on me and analysis on why i would hit him for it. scumread is an overstatement but he definitely was not impressed with your play this game. As far as why he was hit I don't particularly care this game as I'm not doing the whole night analysis thing this time around. Going back to basics. If you are implying that I think you are scum because WoS died then let me say here that is 0% contributing to my read of you. It has more to do with subtle things like "accidentally" using your power incorrectly and really having no control over the lynch day 1 or even today when that is usually your sole priority. | ||
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On November 01 2013 14:15 OOHCHILD wrote: inb4 vayne is asian that would suck. nah I look like justin bieber thuglyfe | ||
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rayn, sentinel, pandain, onegu sounds good | ||
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if im wrong about you pandain I feel good about onegu/oats/rayn team. sentinel 3rd party. I guess that would be my end game cred | ||
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On November 01 2013 14:46 Pandain wrote: You said this. What made you change, and what were you referring to? Also why is Koshi town, despite his post level I find his contributions pretty lackluster even considering what Koshi normally spams. Do you also have a post why Oats is scum? I was referring to when we were rapid firing questions at seuss (believe it was me and marv, dont recall the specifics) and he was answering them in very quick order. So didn't seem like bullshit. Koshi I don't really see a reason for him to be scum. Looks more like his town game where he kinda is just there and doin' stuff occasionally. as scum I feel like he has more thread presence. I don't have a post on why Oats is scum, it's more of a process of elimination and his recent weird play. Could be wrong but I feel like it's a solid gut read. If he is scum though then I'm wrong about rayn so idk all my reads are messed up. | ||
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On November 01 2013 15:13 Pandain wrote: That's how everyone used to do analysis at least a year ago. dunno how u guys fucked up, but spam has become way too common in TL mafia. don't remind me man, I was here 4-5 years ago I played in TL mafia 2 where you actually got clues in the day posts, and was how I got caught. My name was blindalbino and they made it so fucking obvious that my character was blind and an albino LOL | ||
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##vote: Sentinel I really have to go to bed soon and this is where my vote will be I suppose. If I do end up getting lynched look into the dudes I was talkin' about. | ||
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On November 01 2013 15:16 Pandain wrote: Vayne do you think there's any real chance he's town at this point? who? kush? yea I think he is town most likely tbh. Something is not right about this game I feel like scum has a lot of power over the thread. We are all town possibly. secret town meeting. | ||
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On November 02 2013 08:51 marvellosity wrote: I actually think how he talked about nukes is pretty consistent to how he started the game moaning about people outing their twitter powers. Yea but we now know that this moaning was coming from a scum perspective, so he was trying to look "townie" by rehashing stupid stuff that everybody knows which is the oldest trick in the book. He then goes a step further and fills up more content with the nukes. Is it a stretch to deduce that 1. Both of his partners pretty clearly have strong powers as well 2. association case to sentinel (not nearly as strong, but honestly he hasn't done anything to change my read on him) I admit to confirmation bias so I'm asking for other opinions here | ||
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On October 31 2013 01:45 Seuss wrote: I'm a mathematician and an analyst. I'm trained to support my conclusions with facts/probable cause/proven theorems etc. This whole "I will post one sentence that is my conclusion and then cause a long confusing debate where no one has any idea what anyone else is thinking" thing baffles me. But to reiterate what I said at the end of my post. I think OOHCHILD is scum, HotCottonCandy is probably scum, and Oats is looking pretty scummy as well. LOLZ three random trash reads that basically come out of nowhere unless you call summarizing the game analysis. Idk if I feel as good about lynching oats now. I would go with sentinel or rayn at this point. | ||
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On November 02 2013 09:03 marvellosity wrote: Sentinel looks ok to me. He just needs to post more and give reads and shit. That's all I want from him. I need something more from you then just his tone looks good. Either tell me I have confirmation bias or refute these connections he has to seuss because I cannot | ||
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Close to confirmed town due to interesting small details: Prom, Pandain, SnB plz be town: Koshi, marv scum from scummiest to least scummy: rayn, sentinel, oats, kush His recent posting is pretty bad tbh, he is reaching at people that are not even close to being up for lynch. doesn't make any sense. Rest of it should be self-explanatory but I can explain if needed. | ||
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Pretty much confirms to me that SnB is town, I doubt they would kill the guy tunneling him and bring that much attention to it what was the point of the RB btw marv? do you actually have a scumread on him or you just had nothing better to do with your power | ||
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at any rate looks like we can rule out SK now. None of the nukes were real just like I said, making sentinel's claim that he is immune to them look really stupid and look like something he posted out of fear. Idk why I'm the only one that thinks he is not town. | ||
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mafia lost their roleblocker and you guys can protect each other, so do we even need to do anything at this point? even if it got to kingmaker we auto win. | ||
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##vote: rayn time to go enjoy my sunday, pce | ||
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On November 04 2013 07:47 OOHCHILD wrote: hcc you didn't say it outright but you had some shit like... "there is more nefarious shit going on, like scum is in control of the thread" you said somethign like that, which implies marv is scum. why would that imply marv is scum when I've had him as town the entire game lol | ||
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On November 04 2013 07:49 OOHCHILD wrote: how is "scum in control of the thread" if marv is town and marv is clearly in control of the thread? why don't you answer my question first ty, because it doesn't make any sense | ||
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Oats could be scum obviously, I would rather lynch sentinel first but I don't have strong objection to lynching oats tomorrow. | ||
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On November 02 2013 08:48 HotCottonCandy wrote: anyone wanna tell me if im just being paranoid or not? Look at Seuss' filter and see how many times he mentions nukes and asking people every little small detail about the nukes. It's like he is trying his hardest to pretend like he doesn't know what's going on. On November 02 2013 08:54 HotCottonCandy wrote: Yea but we now know that this moaning was coming from a scum perspective, so he was trying to look "townie" by rehashing stupid stuff that everybody knows which is the oldest trick in the book. He then goes a step further and fills up more content with the nukes. Is it a stretch to deduce that 1. Both of his partners pretty clearly have strong powers as well 2. association case to sentinel (not nearly as strong, but honestly he hasn't done anything to change my read on him) I admit to confirmation bias so I'm asking for other opinions here On November 02 2013 08:57 HotCottonCandy wrote: Koshi that is what I dislike the most. He put light suspicion on a lot of people but the only person he ever thought to make a case on/vote for is sentinel KNOWING his vote/say has little meaning to this town. As a newbie scum, who is the easiest person to make a case on? yea that's what im hinting at. Of all the people the only person he could muster a solid scumread on was sentinel...not sketchy at all? On November 02 2013 09:01 HotCottonCandy wrote: and then later there is this post after big posts with zero content. he just summarizes the game you can read them for yourselves LOLZ three random trash reads that basically come out of nowhere unless you call summarizing the game analysis. Idk if I feel as good about lynching oats now. I would go with sentinel or rayn at this point. also shows why I don't feel good about oats lynch | ||
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On November 06 2013 06:11 Promethelax wrote: That does seem likely. But what? Never type ## in the thread? Power up everyone? Say yolo, twerk and something else fucking stupid without people hating them? So if game is not over after Oats flips scum you think we're looking for a fourth scum? Precisely. No sk = survivor or some weird role that we have no control over. Game should end after 3rd scum lynch unless there is 4. | ||
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On November 06 2013 06:29 marvellosity wrote: btw if hosts made a game with tracker and watcher and KP isn't delivered by an individual mafia, I will hunt down the hosts and strangle them post-game. what would be the point of those roles haha I do adore individual delivery setups like this a lot more because it adds the strategy of mafia having to choose a member to send and tracking/watching is much more strategic then just hurp durp im cop u bad SUP | ||
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##Update Koshi ##Yolo Promethelax well this is repetitive | ||
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On October 31 2013 03:20 HotCottonCandy wrote: Incase I die Power up roles - Sentinel, Koshi, marv, prom, and oats vote changers - pandain, WoS, Seuss Unknown/etc - OOHCHILD, rayn, SnB Gonna go ahead and game the setup here and say there is 1 scum in each of these lists. Clarity flipped the same role that I am so I'm pretty sure there is 1 more VT. SnB is town from this deduction. OOHCHILD - Now that I know it's kush this doesnt look like his recent townplay at all. He hasn't made any cases or deduced anything worth reading like has recently been the case, he has only been throwing suspicion on random people and then nuking completely different targets. His play is erratic and doesn't make sense. With that said, I don't think he would play this reckless as scum because in an experimental game it's just asking to get shot in the face in some way. Rayn - Not as aggressive as you would like him to be, although I think it's more of him changing his playstyle then anything. He played like this more in Thug Life and Noire and he was town and scum respectively so it's a bit of a null tell there. On the other hand, he isn't actually pushing anything and has been absent for large chunks of the game where I would expect him to otherwise be. The fact that nobody really has any strong opinions in the game about him yet lead me to believe he is most likely the scum from this list. -------------------- Pandain - What exactly has he done this game? Honestly nothing sticks out in my mind. WoS - Glad we let him live, 100% town. if you can't see that from his recent posting then go home. Seuss - From what I understand he is a newbie or close to it and he is simply playing like an earnest one. I don't see any malice in his play he just struggles to not be wishy-washy, probably nervous. By process of elimination, pandain is the scum from this list. Sentinel - gave everyone nukes but he is immune to them. 3rd party anyone? Makes quite a bit of sense is how blase he is this game, doesn't really care to weigh in on anything and just sorta drifting away in his own world. The role and his play lead me to believe 3rd party at this point. Koshi - Similar to pandain, I honestly can't think of what he has done this game. Nuked Pandain though so if im going with my list he isn't scum unless he is a fucking genius. Oats - Great day 1 play, it almost looked too good to be true for town oats. Recently has started slipping up more. Possibly scum here? Marv - Not scum as far as I'm aware. He's pretty easy to read, a less annoying yamato. Promethelax - This is the one I'm the least sure about. The last time I played with him he was 3rd party so I honestly have nothing to base anything off except his play here. Seems a bit too cocky to be scum but that's just a stupid heuristic. Keep an eye on this guy at lategame if we still haven't found the scum on this list by then. He has lapses of logic that just don't make sense at key points in the game. this post is relevant now unless sentinel is just pulling a BH | ||
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The person who looks the worse from this is kush unfortunately, I really doubt his only power was to block ## for a day from some one, seems too weak by itself. | ||
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Oats is being lynched you claim out of nowhere adding new information to the game Yet you arrive at the same conclusion to lynch oats So... what is the point of the claim at this particular timing? because this is one of the only ways I can think of us losing. If we go on a wild goose chase for something that doesn't actually exist and sentinel is just scum with a 4th member. Why should we not lynch you to confirm this info? | ||
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##Vote: OOHCHILD i will be around for a bit so if we decide to lynch sentinel I will be here to change vote. | ||
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On November 08 2013 03:08 Koshi wrote: Why is Sent/Oats not together? I could totally lynch Sentinel as well. because why would sentinel do this big play on 4 man scum team when oats is being lynched, then be fine with oats being lynched anyway? makes no sense if they are teamed together. He would try to push his kush read more. remember sent has wanted to kill kush? | ||
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