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On October 30 2013 10:10 HotCottonCandy wrote:
So the real predicament here is do I double-stack OOHCHILD with another nuke or nuke SnB =/ not sure.

On October 30 2013 10:11 OOHCHILD wrote:
Nuke away. I was reading filters but now I'll be back if I survive the night. Yes this is your punishment for considering nuking me more.

On October 30 2013 10:16 OOHCHILD wrote:
Oh WoS I actually think you are town now. Still glad I nuked you. Also I took away your twitter powers tomorrow as an extra f u.

On October 30 2013 12:04 Pandain wrote:


It was my working assumption, but Marv convinced me that not all nukes are real because that would be real bad play by the hosts.

Even if they are all real, I wouldn't be comfortable nuking anyone else.

I heavily encourage you and everyone to nuke Snb

On October 30 2013 09:41 Pandain wrote:
It's extremely unlikely all nukes are fake, although I guess some might be, though I don't think so because there's a time limit on using the nukes, and we only have the next 12 hours to use them.

Even if some are fake, what would be more retarded then having everyone have nukes is having no one have a real nuke and thus making Sentinels role completely useless.

On October 30 2013 09:45 Pandain wrote:
Maybe you guys simply don't care but I believe even 1-2 nukes means we should treat all of them as real

On October 30 2013 23:20 OOHCHILD wrote:
if you gonna try to meta me WoS you have to guess who i am. that will help

On October 30 2013 23:39 strongandbig wrote:
Okay so questions then. WoS why did you nuke me? Go through my filter and say why I'm scum plz

On October 30 2013 23:42 Promethelax wrote:
yes sorry, I saw that post and it was a good point about reasons to defend clarity. I couldn't argue with it. I didn't vote for clarity because I didn't think he would flip scum. The thing is kush did not defend clarity on that. He defended clarity on random bull shit which had nothing to do with anything that had actually happened in thread.

WoS, why did you ask about VA, what are your thoughts on him?

On October 31 2013 01:12 Seuss wrote:


Ask and you shall receive.

First and foremost I don't care who kush is or if OOHCHILD is kush, his play has been nothing short of scum-city. While he's had the odd good point here or there, he's been extremely disruptive, unhelpful, distracting, and more.

His nuke on Wave also makes zero sense. This was OOHCHILD before the lynch yesterday:



The last we heard from him Day 1 he'd rather lynch Sentinel or HotCottonCandy over WaveofShadow. Fast-forward to nuke-city and the first thing he does is nuke WaveofShadow. Not a word as to why, just FIRE ZE MISSILES!

Now I'm willing to give him a pass on Sentinel because nuke-city changed things on that front. However, we have no explanation for why HotCottonCandy wasn't considered. Outside of the Clarity flip nothing had really changed there, and as of yet we haven't received a good explanation (calling it an "impulsive move" is up there with the "bored of mafia" defense he gave for Clarity).

Looking over HotCottonCandy's history there's nothing that stands out connecting or disconnecting him from OOHCHILD. At one point he suggested voting for OOHCHILD when the choice seemed to be Clarity or OOHCHILD, but outside of that HotCottonCandy has only mentioned him in passing. I don't feel confident reading much into their interactions or lack thereof, but I will analyze HotCottonCandy.


I'll forgive HotCottonCandy for waffling back and forth with his opinion on me during the pre-lynch insanity; I was under a lot of scrutiny at the time and there was a lot going on. However, I haven't liked his approach to the whole nuke situation:



On the one hand he's correct that you can read a lot into a person's thoughts and motivations based on their nuke choice. However, a town's greatest strength is its community, and telling everyone to follow their bliss is a great recipe for chaos, confusion, and counter-productivity.

Case in point, if everyone hadn't been so trigger happy we could, as has been suggested several times, effectively had a lightning-lynch round. Instead we currently have chaos because OOHCHILD, Koshi, Oatsmaster and others had to push the red button.

HotCottonCandy also acted extremely surprised when strongandbig nuked him after he'd been actively and vocally contemplating nuking strongandbig. It's pretty obvious from how strongandbig went about the actual nuking that he was being vindictive. I think it's a stretch at this point to think it was anything more than that, as strongandbig's play post-lynch hasn't shown him capable of that kind of duplicity and forethought.


So right now I've got a strong scum read on OOHCHILD, and I'm suspicious of HotCottonCandy.


A quick thought on Oatsmaster's confusing Koshi nuke. Even if you assume Koshi's question is scummy, we had hours that could have been spent grilling Koshi on that before we needed to fire nukes at him. Oatsmaster's play there is in keeping with the grand traditions routine irresponsibility of this game (hashtag first, ask questions later), and I'm reevaluating him accordingly.

On October 31 2013 01:50 strongandbig wrote:

I do

Why am I scum

No one has made a case I can respond to

Also I'm not

Also I'm probably dying at the end of night anyway

On October 31 2013 01:55 marvellosity wrote:

Please don't tell me what's good and bad, I was doing it in association with Prome's own read on OOHCHILD, and it didn't tain my own read. I don't need teaching how to play the game.

On October 30 2013 05:46 strongandbig wrote:

which of these things are not also things a townie without much time would do? i guess the thread atmosphere thing, but how am i hurting thread atmosphere?


dude you were on my team, you KNOW that wasn't a genuine effort because I knew palmar was scum because he was ON A TEAM WITH THE TWO OF US
also did even that case didn't involve any actual research into palmar's past games

also i forgot that sentinel claimed he doesn't know what his power does. but why is saying that scum motivated.

last thing, why would i have attempted to change the lynch when i like it

On October 30 2013 23:19 strongandbig wrote:

Well, I'm actually kind of unsure now about wos. Once pandain made my vote not matter I didn't have to decide whether I believed the turnaround. So like, I would be happy if he flipped but I'm not sure I want to flip him.

I think I'd go with ooh child and vayne.

Sent I'm struggling with because I feel like the way he played is antitown but I can't see his power going to mafia unless they're all fake. So if they turn out to be all fake nukes at the day post then sentinel.

Actially nm I think I still would put wos on the list above sentinel. I just get really bad feelings about how self-focused he was early in day 1 on people who attacked him despite the pressure being largely superficial.