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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
October 29 2013 11:04 GMT
#903
Well why not lynch one, shoot one, cop one? Circle goes boom.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
October 29 2013 11:15 GMT
#908
I'd be shocked if all three were scum but at least one is and maybe two. The thing is I'd like the ooh question settled because I'm not sure what we can get out of him as a player: he has been present and given nothing. I do think he is new to TL though so maybe some newbie tells will slip into his play. He is a perfect vig shot/cop check at the moment.

Panda seems plausibly readable.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
October 29 2013 11:18 GMT
#911
My read on him is between a three and a four
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
October 29 2013 11:28 GMT
#915
for ease of reference

1Promethelax
3WaveofShadow
3.5Pandain
4[UoN]Sentinel
2Oatsmaster
3Koshi
2.5strongandbig
4OOHCHILD
1marvellosity
3Seuss
5Clarity_nl
3HotCottonCandy
2raynpelikoneet
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
October 29 2013 11:29 GMT
#916
On October 29 2013 20:17 Oatsmaster wrote:
What is everyone's reads on Pandain actually? There hasnt really been much discussion surrounding him.

One thing though, it annoys me tremendously that he doesnt want to talk to me about my scumread on him at all.


What is your read on Pandain Oats, make the discussion yourself.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
October 29 2013 11:34 GMT
#918
And that, marv, is my main issue with OOH.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
October 29 2013 11:37 GMT
#920
Let me clarify for posterity/people who don't think the same way I do: OOH is present, he is keeping up with the thread and has not given a read. All he does is decide not to talk to people who don't like his play. So far he has shut down discussion with both myself and Rayn (two of the stronger players in the game and both town) there is only so far one can go clamping his hands over his ears and screaming NYNERNYNERNYNER every time someone has an issue with his play. ANd OOH has already gone past that point.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
October 29 2013 11:41 GMT
#924
On October 29 2013 20:39 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2013 20:37 Promethelax wrote:
Let me clarify for posterity/people who don't think the same way I do: OOH is present, he is keeping up with the thread and has not given a read. All he does is decide not to talk to people who don't like his play. So far he has shut down discussion with both myself and Rayn (two of the stronger players in the game and both town) there is only so far one can go clamping his hands over his ears and screaming NYNERNYNERNYNER every time someone has an issue with his play. ANd OOH has already gone past that point.

You know something I don't, dear?


Just how to read Rayn. So yes.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
October 29 2013 11:42 GMT
#926
"Why are you doing this pandain" isn't a read though oats.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
October 29 2013 11:43 GMT
#928
Its there being scummier people. And effort. And the fact that when I sit down and try to make the case logically I can't make it work like it should if he is scum.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
October 29 2013 11:44 GMT
#930
On October 29 2013 20:42 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2013 20:41 Promethelax wrote:
On October 29 2013 20:39 marvellosity wrote:
On October 29 2013 20:37 Promethelax wrote:
Let me clarify for posterity/people who don't think the same way I do: OOH is present, he is keeping up with the thread and has not given a read. All he does is decide not to talk to people who don't like his play. So far he has shut down discussion with both myself and Rayn (two of the stronger players in the game and both town) there is only so far one can go clamping his hands over his ears and screaming NYNERNYNERNYNER every time someone has an issue with his play. ANd OOH has already gone past that point.

You know something I don't, dear?


Just how to read Rayn. So yes.

I see very little reason for you to be that confident in reading rayn given he's played a butt-ton of games since you were last here.


Discussion with observers during the Champions game gave me a bit of insight.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
October 29 2013 11:51 GMT
#932
On October 29 2013 20:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2013 20:43 Promethelax wrote:
Its there being scummier people. And effort. And the fact that when I sit down and try to make the case logically I can't make it work like it should if he is scum.

OOHCHILD is 3p almost for sure I feel. I dont think hes scum.

Uhh. What do you mean by the second part, can you elaborate?


Basically when I put all the facts on the table they don't prove he is scum. Like usually with scum when I put the facts in front of me they still look scum. But with Panda I'm not all that confidant when I lay it all out, so there are people I'd like to lynch first: if I had to pick four people to lynch he'd be my fourth, no doubt. But he isn't my top scum read.

The facts being:
put in a lot of early game effort and started things off when there was nothing going on - townie or trying to appear it
bowed to thread pressure really quickly on the OMGus thing - feels scummy but isn't conclusive at all
buddying accusation into buddying - scummy
refusing to power his town read - scummy
no one defended his lynch - townie
was attacked by scummy people - townie
three people scummier than him - townie

the flow of his lynch and the effort in early game make him a bad target for me.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
October 29 2013 11:57 GMT
#934
early game, when he was the leading lynch candidate, there was no concrete opposition to the lynch. Though that was before there was a real lynch push/end of day. I'm conflicted okay?! God mom you just don't get me at all!!!
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
October 29 2013 11:58 GMT
#936
OH WAIT I'M DUMB!

It was OOH who was getting votes from people who seemed scummy. Not Panda.

Please feel free to disregard that bit.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
October 29 2013 12:07 GMT
#939
so you agree Koshi with my read of him as scummy but not the scummiest? I think everyone is having a problem not with what I'm saying but with not getting my conclusion. My conclusion is that he is the fourth scummiest person in this thread though in light of relooking at the voting I might put him as scummier than Sent. I have an issue with Sent being so effortless though, like Panda at least tried to make a case on someone. Sent hasn't done ANYTHING!
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
October 29 2013 12:13 GMT
#942
On October 29 2013 21:10 marvellosity wrote:
Yeah. I despise "I can't do/hate Day 1s" as an excuse as well.

In my last 4 towngames I've lynched two cops and a vigi on Day 1. Shit happens. Doesn't mean I'm not going to put effort in.

Annoyingly Stutters used this excuse on me in Hogwarts as well, and he flipped town. It's just... annoying.


Its not just that I hate the excuse. Sent has done d1s in the past. Though in bastard he also did the whole "wah wah d1 hard" thing and trolled around until I shot him (or maybe his in thread mason partner, don't remember, one of them). So yeah...dunno what to think besides either scum or terrible town.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
October 29 2013 12:14 GMT
#943
On October 29 2013 21:12 Oatsmaster wrote:
scummy people meaning sent and OOHCHILD?
I dont agree with the no defense = town thing, thats inaccurate and false.


Woah there cowboy, inaccurate AND false? Sheeeet.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
October 29 2013 12:23 GMT
#946
On October 29 2013 21:20 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2013 21:07 Promethelax wrote:
so you agree Koshi with my read of him as scummy but not the scummiest? I think everyone is having a problem not with what I'm saying but with not getting my conclusion. My conclusion is that he is the fourth scummiest person in this thread though in light of relooking at the voting I might put him as scummier than Sent. I have an issue with Sent being so effortless though, like Panda at least tried to make a case on someone. Sent hasn't done ANYTHING!

No, I think Pandain is pretty scummy. I'll bounce ideas around with rayn later on. He claims to be able to read Pandain perfectly and I am sure he is willing to provide a lenghty case on why we should lynch Pandain if he beleives Pandain to be scum.

If rayn doesn't think Pandain is worth lynching it isn't going to happen anyway.


pretty scummy sounds a lot like 'scummy but not the scummiest' if you want to lynch Pandain what are you doing on marv's clarity wagon?
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
October 29 2013 12:26 GMT
#947
Actually. What the fuck was that post? Am I crazy or did Koshi just say he has a strong scum read he won't push until someone else comes in here to push it for him and that if that person isn't pushing it than he, Koshi, doesn't want to touch it?

Koshi is now scummier than Panda.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
October 29 2013 12:29 GMT
#950
okay, I'm going to assume the two of you know better than me in this case. Can you give me insight into the usual Koshi? LIke what does he do as either alignment? What does he contribute?
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
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