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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 29 2013 15:19 GMT
#1141
On October 30 2013 00:13 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2013 00:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 30 2013 00:05 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Oats looks a lot less dickish than the scum games I've played with him

This is so bad because he looks less dickish than he is in his town games aswell and he is less dickish as scum in general.

Could you push something please? Thanks. Don't like that you're kinda spectating all this.

I am getting to that soon. I gotta eat first. But i want to lynch WoS or Sentinel, don't know which one yet.
Dick move analysis say Clarity is town and i do not like OOHCHILD lynch at all. Based mainly on his self-suicidal behavior and the fact that when i said "i could lynch OOH just because" earlier on, suddenly some people voted for him with zero reasoning. Those votes would have been easy for scum to call out people for in case OOH was scum but nobody did do anything about it.
table for two on a tv tray
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 29 2013 15:20 GMT
#1142
On October 28 2013 23:10 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 23:01 Promethelax wrote:
marv, that is kind of a subtle read. Not super subtle but like not a read I'd expect a newer player to have.
As soon as I typed this I realized WoS isn't actually all that new anymore, carry on.

Clarity. Explain what oats is doing here that is out of character for him. Unless he started making sense and not doing stupid shit/changing his mind all the time this is totally in line with his meta AND that meta applies to both alignments so even if he wasn't doing that (which he is) it wouldn't be alignment indicative. I'd get you the venn diagram but I think you get my point.

So despite me harping on you for your meta read of me, you just realized this?
Marv I actually had a townread on someone else this game for something very similar but that was very late last night and I can't remember who it was exactly. Not the arrogance but the quizzing and confidence that people 'see him as town and here's why.' I'll try to look back and figure out where it was I came up with that.

Essentially your read to me makes sense, and I'm glad it is for reasons that didn't occur to me/are not related to my case since that gives me more to think about. I'm always a little bit wary of giving experienced players townreads based on mafia not being so upfront and arrogant though because there are definitely people very capable of that kind of play (ie Pandain). I guess in Prome's case it's mroe the mindset behind that type of play and his posting? I'll have a closer look.

Wave, I'd like to know who this was please.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 29 2013 15:22 GMT
#1143
I don't want to lynch Sentinel because I want to see his power >.<

I'm kinda interested in a Wave lynch. He's doing all kinds of nothing.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 29 2013 15:22 GMT
#1144
On October 30 2013 00:16 marvellosity wrote:
Koshi, why isn't rayn offering an opinion on what Clarity did? Why has he just come in to make a small comment about Oats' meta? :/

Why is he posting about that rather than telling us that it makes Clarity mafia still or town because x,y?

I got an urge rayn was scum with Pandain while making that case on Pandain. But preflip associations are bad and stuff. BUT I think with a town Pandain and a scum rayn, rayn would have been on Pandain ass more viciously.

Him not talking about Clarity is ... I don't know.
I had a good night of sleep.
OOHCHILD
Profile Joined September 2013
United States570 Posts
October 29 2013 15:23 GMT
#1145
On October 30 2013 00:15 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2013 00:13 OOHCHILD wrote:
I am a terrible lynch because I tried to clear the only alternative bandwagon. I am a terrible lynch because I have not been afraid to stick out. I am a terrible lynch because I have given plenty of opinions and also given reasons why I have those opinions.

I dont understand the first point. The second point doesnt really make sense to me either, thinking marv is scum is so bad, its scummy. Your opinions and reasons are bad.
Bad in a scummy way.


Last post for real.
There are two bandwagons, me and Clarity. If Clarity doesn't get lynched, it's very likely I will. As scum why would I try so hard to clear Clarity if it meant it would be more likely that I was going to be lynched?

Scum wants to blend in. I did several unnecessary, weird things this game that made me stick out.

It's bad to think marvel is scum? Get real and cut the wifom. If your read of Marv is anything other than null than it's you who is dumb.
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
October 29 2013 15:23 GMT
#1146
On October 30 2013 00:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2013 00:13 marvellosity wrote:
On October 30 2013 00:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 30 2013 00:05 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Oats looks a lot less dickish than the scum games I've played with him

This is so bad because he looks less dickish than he is in his town games aswell and he is less dickish as scum in general.

Could you push something please? Thanks. Don't like that you're kinda spectating all this.

I am getting to that soon. I gotta eat first. But i want to lynch WoS or Sentinel, don't know which one yet.
Dick move analysis say Clarity is town and i do not like OOHCHILD lynch at all. Based mainly on his self-suicidal behavior and the fact that when i said "i could lynch OOH just because" earlier on, suddenly some people voted for him with zero reasoning. Those votes would have been easy for scum to call out people for in case OOH was scum but nobody did do anything about it.


How much investment does scum put into saving ooh though? IIRC we didn't do much for Cephiro in Noir, and Mocsta ended up doing the work for us.
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 29 2013 15:23 GMT
#1147
On October 30 2013 00:23 OOHCHILD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2013 00:15 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 30 2013 00:13 OOHCHILD wrote:
I am a terrible lynch because I tried to clear the only alternative bandwagon. I am a terrible lynch because I have not been afraid to stick out. I am a terrible lynch because I have given plenty of opinions and also given reasons why I have those opinions.

I dont understand the first point. The second point doesnt really make sense to me either, thinking marv is scum is so bad, its scummy. Your opinions and reasons are bad.
Bad in a scummy way.


Last post for real.
There are two bandwagons, me and Clarity. If Clarity doesn't get lynched, it's very likely I will. As scum why would I try so hard to clear Clarity if it meant it would be more likely that I was going to be lynched?

Scum wants to blend in. I did several unnecessary, weird things this game that made me stick out.

It's bad to think marvel is scum? Get real and cut the wifom. If your read of Marv is anything other than null than it's you who is dumb.

No, it really is you.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 29 2013 15:24 GMT
#1148
OOHCHILD, where do you get off on telling people they're dumb for their reads when you've not even read the thread properly?

What the fuck is that crap?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
OOHCHILD
Profile Joined September 2013
United States570 Posts
October 29 2013 15:25 GMT
#1149
Actual last post.
Nope it's you. Closing window now.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 29 2013 15:25 GMT
#1150
I still really want to know why so happy pregame, not happy now.
No gg, No skill.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 29 2013 15:25 GMT
#1151
On October 30 2013 00:23 OOHCHILD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2013 00:15 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 30 2013 00:13 OOHCHILD wrote:
I am a terrible lynch because I tried to clear the only alternative bandwagon. I am a terrible lynch because I have not been afraid to stick out. I am a terrible lynch because I have given plenty of opinions and also given reasons why I have those opinions.

I dont understand the first point. The second point doesnt really make sense to me either, thinking marv is scum is so bad, its scummy. Your opinions and reasons are bad.
Bad in a scummy way.


Last post for real.
There are two bandwagons, me and Clarity. If Clarity doesn't get lynched, it's very likely I will. As scum why would I try so hard to clear Clarity if it meant it would be more likely that I was going to be lynched?

Scum wants to blend in. I did several unnecessary, weird things this game that made me stick out.

It's bad to think marvel is scum? Get real and cut the wifom. If your read of Marv is anything other than null than it's you who is dumb.

marv is 100% town. He is confirmed. I don't know who you are but if you are unknown with marv you better accept it.
I had a good night of sleep.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 29 2013 15:26 GMT
#1152
Honestly I don't really think OOHCHILD is mafia, but I'm still not averse to lynching him because he is actually that irritating.

I'll ##Unvote for now though.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
OOHCHILD
Profile Joined September 2013
United States570 Posts
October 29 2013 15:27 GMT
#1153
Why is he confirmed? I haven't seen any reasoning behind that so I have no reason to believe it. An emotionality that can easily be faked??

Why so happy pregame and not now? Maybe because I was trying to pretend to be a newb but I found it tiring.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
October 29 2013 15:28 GMT
#1154
I'm a little concerned at the moment that strongandbig has managed to fly under the radar due to all the Clarity_nl/OOHCHILD nonsense going on. When he's posted he's made cogent points, but that amounts to all of four or six posts thus far. Based on his posts alone I don't think he's scum, but he's depriving us of an important voice by lurking so hard.

On October 30 2013 00:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2013 00:13 marvellosity wrote:
On October 30 2013 00:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 30 2013 00:05 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Oats looks a lot less dickish than the scum games I've played with him

This is so bad because he looks less dickish than he is in his town games aswell and he is less dickish as scum in general.

Could you push something please? Thanks. Don't like that you're kinda spectating all this.

I am getting to that soon. I gotta eat first. But i want to lynch WoS or Sentinel, don't know which one yet.
Dick move analysis say Clarity is town and i do not like OOHCHILD lynch at all. Based mainly on his self-suicidal behavior and the fact that when i said "i could lynch OOH just because" earlier on, suddenly some people voted for him with zero reasoning. Those votes would have been easy for scum to call out people for in case OOH was scum but nobody did do anything about it.


OOHCHILD is reminding me a lot of istandwithmitt from my previous game. He's so controversial and antagonistic you can't believe any sensible scum/third party would make themselves a target like that.

I'm less forgiving of Clarity_nl because July617 pulled a similar move Day 1 in my last game and he turned out to be the serial killer. I didn't think his initial post was as bad as Oatsmaster and others did, but Clarity's response has just been mind-boggling.

##Vote Clarity_nl
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
OOHCHILD
Profile Joined September 2013
United States570 Posts
October 29 2013 15:28 GMT
#1155
Marvel, sheep me and vote for Pandain.
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
October 29 2013 15:29 GMT
#1156
On October 30 2013 00:27 OOHCHILD wrote:
Why is he confirmed? I haven't seen any reasoning behind that so I have no reason to believe it. An emotionality that can easily be faked??

Why so happy pregame and not now? Maybe because I was trying to pretend to be a newb but I found it tiring.

Oh you are a smurf. I've lynched too many new players on their first game
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
HotCottonCandy
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada188 Posts
October 29 2013 15:29 GMT
#1157
On October 29 2013 23:15 marvellosity wrote:
This is still giving me the heebie jeebies
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2013 19:39 marvellosity wrote:
One of the problems I'm having is that we have these players with in-thread powers/powerups:

Promethelax
Oatsmaster
marvellosity
Koshi
Sentinel

Are they really all town?



Yea I brought this up earlier in the game and is part of the reason I have been pushing sentinel. Gaming the set-up in small games like this is actually extremely powerful even if others find it lame. I highly doubt town just has 5 charging powers running around in thread in a 13 man game. Sentinel looks by far the worst on this list. Could be Koshi but his recent posting is way better, so I still feel really good about a sentinel lynch today.


As far as clarity and OOHChild go

This OOHChild fellow seems to be doing bad things to all my strongest townreads (I doubt shun is something good) and is kinda just refusing to find scum besides making a weak case on marv(lol why?) That is the only thing that makes me believe he could possibly be town. If he's a smurf and making a case on marv day 1 to save himself then he is town. If he's just a new player then could go either way. this is where it helps to know these things.

Since I blew my cover ill say this about clarity: Martyring is my least favorite thing in mafia, With that said,

On October 29 2013 23:07 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2013 23:06 Promethelax wrote:
Clarity: you should post ##Yolo Promethelax and ##Refudiate Oatsmaster and [b ] ##Twerk [/ b]


Welp, I think marv is town, sadly. So if marv says I should then I should. Don't have a read on you and oats atm,


He has done one thing offensively this game and it consisted of attacking oats. To forget about the only thing you have done in this entire game I have to imagine he is being genuine.

So i ask people to switch back to sentinel or I will be voting for OOHChild as my second choice.
taste me
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 29 2013 15:31 GMT
#1158
On October 30 2013 00:28 Seuss wrote:
I'm a little concerned at the moment that strongandbig has managed to fly under the radar due to all the Clarity_nl/OOHCHILD nonsense going on. When he's posted he's made cogent points, but that amounts to all of four or six posts thus far. Based on his posts alone I don't think he's scum, but he's depriving us of an important voice by lurking so hard.

Show nested quote +
On October 30 2013 00:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 30 2013 00:13 marvellosity wrote:
On October 30 2013 00:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 30 2013 00:05 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Oats looks a lot less dickish than the scum games I've played with him

This is so bad because he looks less dickish than he is in his town games aswell and he is less dickish as scum in general.

Could you push something please? Thanks. Don't like that you're kinda spectating all this.

I am getting to that soon. I gotta eat first. But i want to lynch WoS or Sentinel, don't know which one yet.
Dick move analysis say Clarity is town and i do not like OOHCHILD lynch at all. Based mainly on his self-suicidal behavior and the fact that when i said "i could lynch OOH just because" earlier on, suddenly some people voted for him with zero reasoning. Those votes would have been easy for scum to call out people for in case OOH was scum but nobody did do anything about it.


OOHCHILD is reminding me a lot of istandwithmitt from my previous game. He's so controversial and antagonistic you can't believe any sensible scum/third party would make themselves a target like that.

I'm less forgiving of Clarity_nl because July617 pulled a similar move Day 1 in my last game and he turned out to be the serial killer. I didn't think his initial post was as bad as Oatsmaster and others did, but Clarity's response has just been mind-boggling.

##Vote Clarity_nl

We're not lynching Clarity today, so you need to rethink this, I don't want you wasting your vote.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
HotCottonCandy
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada188 Posts
October 29 2013 15:31 GMT
#1159
ninja'd it seems, have a hard time believing the troll is mafia if he's a smurf.
taste me
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
October 29 2013 15:32 GMT
#1160
On October 30 2013 00:31 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2013 00:28 Seuss wrote:
I'm a little concerned at the moment that strongandbig has managed to fly under the radar due to all the Clarity_nl/OOHCHILD nonsense going on. When he's posted he's made cogent points, but that amounts to all of four or six posts thus far. Based on his posts alone I don't think he's scum, but he's depriving us of an important voice by lurking so hard.

On October 30 2013 00:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 30 2013 00:13 marvellosity wrote:
On October 30 2013 00:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 30 2013 00:05 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Oats looks a lot less dickish than the scum games I've played with him

This is so bad because he looks less dickish than he is in his town games aswell and he is less dickish as scum in general.

Could you push something please? Thanks. Don't like that you're kinda spectating all this.

I am getting to that soon. I gotta eat first. But i want to lynch WoS or Sentinel, don't know which one yet.
Dick move analysis say Clarity is town and i do not like OOHCHILD lynch at all. Based mainly on his self-suicidal behavior and the fact that when i said "i could lynch OOH just because" earlier on, suddenly some people voted for him with zero reasoning. Those votes would have been easy for scum to call out people for in case OOH was scum but nobody did do anything about it.


OOHCHILD is reminding me a lot of istandwithmitt from my previous game. He's so controversial and antagonistic you can't believe any sensible scum/third party would make themselves a target like that.

I'm less forgiving of Clarity_nl because July617 pulled a similar move Day 1 in my last game and he turned out to be the serial killer. I didn't think his initial post was as bad as Oatsmaster and others did, but Clarity's response has just been mind-boggling.

##Vote Clarity_nl

We're not lynching Clarity today, so you need to rethink this, I don't want you wasting your vote.


Fair enough. I'll listen to my strongest town read, but I still think I'm seeing meaningful parallels.

##Unvote
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
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