EPTYou guys better do some rethinking after I'm dead because I'm apparently buddying each and everyone of them by giving them townreads!
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You guys better do some rethinking after I'm dead because I'm apparently buddying each and everyone of them by giving them townreads! | ||
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On October 30 2013 05:39 marvellosity wrote: I dunno about s&b. This post is pretty bad because Sentinel has talked about his power so many times, I don't see the point in bringing it up again. Then again it looks like s&b actually made genuine effort to go and look at Pandain's games earlier when he talked about his big posts I was about to quote that at the end of my last post as well---seems so completely out of place and useless when there are much more prevalent things to talk about, btu as well you're right, I did like his earlier assessment of Pandain. Not impossible to do as scum however; I know I personally have put in the effort to make cases like that in my scumgame, and it's especially easy to do if you KNOW the guy is town, which I believe Pandain to be right now. | ||
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On October 30 2013 05:41 strongandbig wrote: im not defending you the attitude that if i agree with someone's conclusions i have to agree with all of their logic is one of the many silly tropes in mafia also i guess i didnt vote yet ##vote: waveofshadow Where did you get that from? I am more inclined to agree with someone's conclusions or logic if they have the same process of thought at the time as me when I am town---such as marv. Nice of you to rejoin us though. | ||
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We won thug, maybe we can do it again here. ##noregrets (exceptmaybeshowingupinthefirstplaceinsteadoflurkingallday) | ||
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On October 30 2013 05:44 marvellosity wrote: Given I mentioned earlier that all I do lately is kill blues on Day 1 (even when I'm playing well!) I find it both funny and extremely tragic I have so many votes to play with. Arg. lol well guess you're going to be adding to that statistic haha Prome, no hard feelings---I get the feeling we were being a little salty towards one another here (you started it!  )---I'm sorry if anything I said actually insulted you in any way. Are we still buds? | ||
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On October 30 2013 05:46 Koshi wrote: Give your 3 gut read scums. For endgame cred. Knowing me I'll probably be wrong. Uggh. SnB Rayn (no idea where this came from honestly---maybe because I haven't gotten townvibes from him when I noramlly do?) VA/Oats? | ||
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On October 30 2013 05:49 marvellosity wrote: Can we actually kill Clarity? I know he might not be mafia, he might be, and i'm just not happy with any of what we've got right now. Why now? It's probably too late. And what about dick move analysis? My ride just arrived. GG and GL. | ||
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Do you not think I am scum anymore, or more sure of clarity? | ||
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I will vote clarity out of conservations sake but phoneposting so won't be ble to change it again probably | ||
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Not ninja | ||
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Probably afk until 3 hours ish from now Mybe can phonpst a little | ||
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Well just so nobody can say shit about me 'not doing anything' I'm going to talk to absolutely nobody, and then people can ignore what I have to say, use it, or do whatever the hell they want. Also I figure it's a given right now but I also have a nuke despite me not participating in the countdown or any other powering up on D1. Thank you for not lynching me. As far as the Clarity lynch goes, I figured he was town but did not want to die myself. Marv, I get your reasoning as to why you were willing to back out on dick move analysis (you said it was because he essentially lied about how sick he was) but at the same time did you consider the rest of his actions around the time of the mislynch? The way he acted, the rage about not being here.. On October 29 2013 23:44 Clarity_nl wrote: Prome no offense but right now I couldn't care less what you think of me as a person. I could just have afk'd and gotten modkilled instead. But I'm here and I'm being sincere and me being sincere right now is me saying fuck you all and lynching me is bad. If you think I'm sincere then get over your holier than thou bullshit and lynch someone else. If you think I'm doing this crap as scum then you clearly do not know me. I mean, I guess this is fakeable but it's borderline dick move here talking about modkills and whatnot. I professed not to know Clarity's capability in this respect earlier and I figured he may be capable of that kind of play as scum and it's possible what you saw (him backing down from his being 'ill' so as not to be a dick if scum) was correct but I saw it as more likely that he was being sincere at the time, and I said so. Fact remains though, if you're choosing between two townies (and ultimately one who, to me is in no way confirmed) I'm going to choose the one who is not myself, and not blue every time. Nukes: it's been said already but OOHCHILD's nuke is bewildering as all fuck. I mean, it would make sense if he was Prome who has been raving and slobbering at me on and off throughout the day or someone who had a strong scumread of me, but OOHCHILD was again one of the ONLY people to call me town and a time when it was not fashionable to do so. He then jumps on the bandwagon late along with some other people who had no business being there (SnB) and hides his nuke behind a couple of really good excuses. The nuke is either real or fake, we don't know. Either way he can justify it by saying 'well everybody wanted me dead anyway,' and that this is a good way of testing if they're real or not. He is unlikely to catch any flak from his choice of target specifically, but like was pointed out, he has no business nuking me in the first place considering what his reads were of me throughout the day. His reads in general seem to be very odd, especially if he think he and SnB are the towniest in this game. As I said, he's still likely to be town just because he is deliberately contrary to everything that is said and/or done in this thread and that would have to be the most insanely aggressive stance I have ever seen anyone take as scum, and I play with Cheese a lot. Throughout the evening I will be posting reads. If there are specifics that people would like me to comment on, by all means, you know, since I'll ACTUALLY be around. | ||
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I guess I understand Sentinel's nuke choice (and am kind of happy about it in a vindictive sort of way, though less so since OOHCHILD is likely town) but wtf is with the nuke on Pandain? Oh and another thing to comment on---Rayn pulling stupid anti-town role shit means he's town. That's what he do. We all facepalm for a while and things go back to normal. | ||
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a) all of the nukes are fake. b) Sentinel got X number of nukes to give to X people and is not telling us something. I don't see RNG nukes being distributed to random people, and there is no way they are all real. I also don't consider it likely that only those who participated in the countdown have the real nukes. I can't really think of any other possible scenarios. | ||
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On October 30 2013 08:55 Seuss wrote: Wave, did you not get a nuke? This just proves people don't read what I have to say. Makes me feel better because I know people are just talking out of their asses about me and drawing conclusions where they want to. Monte the third FUCKING line of my return post. Does trying to create a nuke plan in thread give SnB townie points? I lean towards no. | ||
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On October 30 2013 09:14 Seuss wrote: The argument for them being fake is, "This will be the dumbest game of mafia ever." For all intents and purposes the game could basically be over after N1. The argument for them being real is, "This is twitter mafia with some pretty ridiculous powers and who would have guessed the town would be dumb enough to thoughtlessly countdown an unknown power from an unverified source day 1?" very town is dumb enough to do this, and in balancing you have to assume for a scneario like this---it's not entirely unlikely. I say with 100% confidence that all of the nukes are not real. It is way more likely to me that they are all fake, or that, as marv said there are 1-2 real ones distributed somehow. I'm not sure we are bothering to still talk about this. Marv do you regret not lynching me? Looking at the voting: On October 30 2013 02:06 Oatsmaster wrote: Oh what lol. Ok so now Im struggling with the 180 for suess, I have no idea why WoS suddenly decided that Seuss is scum and I would really like to know. This is Oats' reasoning for wanting to lynch me. That and 'I pulled out the big guns last time I was 'almost lynched' despite the fact that I was obviously not available to do so this time, and the last time I was almost lynched, I WAS lynched. Tacked on reasoning last second before fucking off. Didn't find me scummy whatsoever all day before this. Then there's this: On October 30 2013 01:36 OOHCHILD wrote: Popping in to say I hate the WoS lynch. It feels like the only reason why are lynching him is because he isn't here. I'm letting Pandain go. Im letting Marv go (don't see what is so town about him though) I would lynch Seuss, HotCottonCandy, or Sentinel. On October 30 2013 02:32 OOHCHILD wrote: Seuss over WoS please. All else being equal, you lynch the weaker player so that you can benefit from the insight of the better player. In this case Seuss is the weaker player. I read Seuss' analysis he posted in some quick chat about some random game. He is not thinking nearly as deep in this game as he was thinking in that analysis. WoS voting for himself. You may not like it but it's honest. He is honest about not knowing who to lynch and that leans town. This is the statement that changes his entire half-day long outlook? On October 30 2013 02:39 OOHCHILD wrote: This is actually a very good point. Changing my vote to WoS. In doing so he basically assumes that one of Seuss and I have to be mafia and because it's not Seuss it must be me. I don't follow this horrible logic. OOHCHILD my townread of you impinges on your response to me here. Why would you sheep so absolutely fucking blindly, and then go on to nuke me as well? | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On October 30 2013 09:14 Seuss wrote: The argument for them being fake is, "This will be the dumbest game of mafia ever." For all intents and purposes the game could basically be over after N1. The argument for them being real is, "This is twitter mafia with some pretty ridiculous powers and who would have guessed the town would be dumb enough to thoughtlessly countdown an unknown power from an unverified source day 1?" Every town is dumb enough to do this, and in balancing you have to assume for a scenario like this---it's not entirely unlikely. I say with 100% confidence that all of the nukes are not real. It is way more likely to me that they are all fake, or that, as marv said there are 1-2 real ones distributed somehow. I'm not sure why we are bothering to still talk about this. Marv do you regret not lynching me? Looking at the voting: On October 30 2013 02:06 Oatsmaster wrote: Oh what lol. Ok so now Im struggling with the 180 for suess, I have no idea why WoS suddenly decided that Seuss is scum and I would really like to know. This is Oats' reasoning for wanting to lynch me. That and 'I pulled out the big guns last time I was 'almost lynched' despite the fact that I was obviously not available to do so this time, and the last time I was almost lynched, I WAS lynched. Tacked on reasoning last second before fucking off. Didn't find me scummy whatsoever all day before this. Then there's this: On October 30 2013 01:36 OOHCHILD wrote: Popping in to say I hate the WoS lynch. It feels like the only reason why are lynching him is because he isn't here. I'm letting Pandain go. Im letting Marv go (don't see what is so town about him though) I would lynch Seuss, HotCottonCandy, or Sentinel. On October 30 2013 02:32 OOHCHILD wrote: Seuss over WoS please. All else being equal, you lynch the weaker player so that you can benefit from the insight of the better player. In this case Seuss is the weaker player. I read Seuss' analysis he posted in some quick chat about some random game. He is not thinking nearly as deep in this game as he was thinking in that analysis. WoS voting for himself. You may not like it but it's honest. He is honest about not knowing who to lynch and that leans town. This is the statement that changes his entire half-day long outlook? On October 30 2013 02:39 OOHCHILD wrote: This is actually a very good point. Changing my vote to WoS. In doing so he basically assumes that one of Seuss and I have to be mafia and because it's not Seuss it must be me. I don't follow this horrible logic. OOHCHILD my townread of you impinges on your response to me here. Why would you sheep so absolutely fucking blindly, and then go on to nuke me as well? | ||
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On October 30 2013 09:36 OOHCHILD wrote: Why did I nuke you? Because you should have been lynched. Why did I sheep a lot? I didn't really sheep I just changed my mind. I don't believe all of the vote changers can be town. Wouldn't that be OP? Like I said I wasn't doing analysis so I couldn't really get a good read on anyone. So....for no reason essentially? Because that's what I'm reading here. What does I 'should have been lynched' mean? Do you know that in an overwhelming percentage of games that i have taken part in, the day one lynch is between two townies? People switching wagons does not make them scum, just the same as people staying on me alone does not make them scum. You couldn't get a good read on anyone. Well that certainly sounds familiar, and yet it's what people wanted to lynch me for. You just 'changed your mind.' Jesus. I think I may have found someone whose play can actually infuriate me more than VA. The thing about you is, I'm pretty damn sure you're town for it so on the one hand, it's nice that I can read you, but on the other hand it means you're just awful. Marv are you here? Can we talk? | ||
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On October 30 2013 09:55 OOHCHILD wrote: I can't believe the person who voted for himself is taking the high horse. Not taking this bait. ##shun Fine marv, but at some point there has to be talk about what went down, and right now I'm the only one doing it. | ||
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On October 30 2013 00:29 HotCottonCandy wrote: Yea I brought this up earlier in the game and is part of the reason I have been pushing sentinel. Gaming the set-up in small games like this is actually extremely powerful even if others find it lame. I highly doubt town just has 5 charging powers running around in thread in a 13 man game. Sentinel looks by far the worst on this list. Could be Koshi but his recent posting is way better, so I still feel really good about a sentinel lynch today. As far as clarity and OOHChild go This OOHChild fellow seems to be doing bad things to all my strongest townreads (I doubt shun is something good) and is kinda just refusing to find scum besides making a weak case on marv(lol why?) That is the only thing that makes me believe he could possibly be town. If he's a smurf and making a case on marv day 1 to save himself then he is town. If he's just a new player then could go either way. this is where it helps to know these things. Since I blew my cover ill say this about clarity: Martyring is my least favorite thing in mafia, With that said, He has done one thing offensively this game and it consisted of attacking oats. To forget about the only thing you have done in this entire game I have to imagine he is being genuine. So i ask people to switch back to sentinel or I will be voting for OOHChild as my second choice. You might be the only person I have ever heard of who considers forgetting about something someone did earlier a towntell. And I agree with it. You also said in this post that you hate martyring, yet it was apparently not the reason you voted for me (and then later removed it). What are you actual thoughts on me either now or earlier D1, because you haven't said much on the matter and it was a rather large chunk of the day. And what are your current thoughts on OOHCHILD? | ||
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