EPTSentinel threatened to do something if he nuked him so he went with me, the safest option.
If SnB does indeed flip scum, please look at Seuss. Because I don't see any reason for the nuke on me over him.
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Sentinel threatened to do something if he nuked him so he went with me, the safest option. If SnB does indeed flip scum, please look at Seuss. Because I don't see any reason for the nuke on me over him. | ||
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On October 30 2013 12:08 Pandain wrote: Yeah, so they'll nuke someone suspicious or not nuke at all It isn't going to be alignment indicative unless a townie nukes a scum. No that's too simple look at what I just posted. Things like that are unexplainable. SnB has not mentioned me or Seuss the entire game, and in the leftover pool of players he could "potentially" nuke he chose me over Seuss with barely any justification. These are the kinds of things that lead to scum connections. You could also say that sentinel and SnB planned to do the whole thing where sentinel "threatens" him and he backs off, but seems less likely. Although SnB did do the whole bussing palmar thing so I don't really know if its within his capabilities. | ||
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On October 30 2013 12:09 Pandain wrote: I don't see what you're honestly hoping to gain from this HCC. Only more information through deaths, but that also means we're closer to lylo and normally we would have that amount of deaths with MORE INFORMATION ON A LATER DAY You don't see the gain in the entire bottom-feeding section of the town being eradicated? It's only bad if 2 of the scum are in marv, prom, rayn and I don't think so at this point in the game. | ||
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On October 30 2013 12:17 Pandain wrote: I think, regardless if the the nukes are real or not, you're over-evaluating the information we will have at the end. If I die to Koshi, what will you make of it? I think SnB is scum and so did you two, but we'd have already killed him and like I said would be the only real results. And would help certify we are town. But that's really the only way. SnB nuking you is more suspicious because he fundamentally is showing a disregard of concern, but I wasn't fully fully convinced he was scum; it's the policy nuke that pushed me over the edge and what I am so angry about. I understand, in the end, we will get information. I just think it's better to consolidate on SnB rather then potentially nuke townies for information. Well I still think one of Koshi or Sentinel is the power-upper that is scum and honestly sentinel's ability is weird to be from scum but who knows. If SnB does indeed flip scum im looking at something like SnB/Seuss/(koshi/sentinel) looks like a 3 scum 1 3rd party setup to me so then it would be up to you guys to find the 3rd party player assuming I die. | ||
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Power up roles - Sentinel, Koshi, marv, prom, and oats vote changers - pandain, WoS, Seuss Unknown/etc - OOHCHILD, rayn, SnB Gonna go ahead and game the setup here and say there is 1 scum in each of these lists. Clarity flipped the same role that I am so I'm pretty sure there is 1 more VT. SnB is town from this deduction. OOHCHILD - Now that I know it's kush this doesnt look like his recent townplay at all. He hasn't made any cases or deduced anything worth reading like has recently been the case, he has only been throwing suspicion on random people and then nuking completely different targets. His play is erratic and doesn't make sense. With that said, I don't think he would play this reckless as scum because in an experimental game it's just asking to get shot in the face in some way. Rayn - Not as aggressive as you would like him to be, although I think it's more of him changing his playstyle then anything. He played like this more in Thug Life and Noire and he was town and scum respectively so it's a bit of a null tell there. On the other hand, he isn't actually pushing anything and has been absent for large chunks of the game where I would expect him to otherwise be. The fact that nobody really has any strong opinions in the game about him yet lead me to believe he is most likely the scum from this list. -------------------- Pandain - What exactly has he done this game? Honestly nothing sticks out in my mind. WoS - Glad we let him live, 100% town. if you can't see that from his recent posting then go home. Seuss - From what I understand he is a newbie or close to it and he is simply playing like an earnest one. I don't see any malice in his play he just struggles to not be wishy-washy, probably nervous. By process of elimination, pandain is the scum from this list. Sentinel - gave everyone nukes but he is immune to them. 3rd party anyone? Makes quite a bit of sense is how blase he is this game, doesn't really care to weigh in on anything and just sorta drifting away in his own world. The role and his play lead me to believe 3rd party at this point. Koshi - Similar to pandain, I honestly can't think of what he has done this game. Nuked Pandain though so if im going with my list he isn't scum unless he is a fucking genius. Oats - Great day 1 play, it almost looked too good to be true for town oats. Recently has started slipping up more. Possibly scum here? Marv - Not scum as far as I'm aware. He's pretty easy to read, a less annoying yamato. Promethelax - This is the one I'm the least sure about. The last time I played with him he was 3rd party so I honestly have nothing to base anything off except his play here. Seems a bit too cocky to be scum but that's just a stupid heuristic. Keep an eye on this guy at lategame if we still haven't found the scum on this list by then. He has lapses of logic that just don't make sense at key points in the game. | ||
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Pandain half his filter is about getting angry at the nukes and the other half isn't particularly useful after the first page where he gives us his initial impressions. nothing after that. | ||
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On October 31 2013 03:26 Promethelax wrote: Vayne, did you just make semi arbitrary lists and POE each one individually? I seriously can't agree with any of your conclusions based on the way you went about getting them. Can you go back and read players based on their play and not on gaming the set up. kthx. well I apologize that you don't agree but that's the way I went about it. Instead of my theory tell me what exactly you disagree with because I don't think a pandain/rayn/oats scum team sounds that crazy do you? They are all contributing but at the same time aren't exactly without holes. And to your 2nd question, there is only 3 VTs in this game unless SnB is lying, which would make it only 2. Gonna use logistics here and deduce that a 3 man scum team with a goon here would be a heavily town favored setup. | ||
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On October 31 2013 03:36 Promethelax wrote: I doubt that pandain is scum based on the people who have spoken out about his past and a certain level of sincerity which feels pretty okay. Oats could be scum, his early game looked really good and that is what he does as scum. But I'm not terribly sure of him one way or the other. Rayn seems much likelier town to me than kush. He was in the thread being not retarded. So even if he is scum he wouldn't be the first for me to kill. I'm not saying that couldn't be the scum team. It wouldn't be totally out of left field but I wouldn't call it the most likely. well that's the fun in mafia especially in a mini of this calibre barring all the martyring/bad play day 1. The solution will never be the obvious one, or even the second choice. | ||
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On October 31 2013 06:05 marvellosity wrote: By the way, Wave may have been killed by a nuke, and the KP blocked/protected by other means. Why would only the kush nuke go off tho? Are you honestly saying that SnB was protected 3 times xD? I see no reason why kush's nuke would get preferential treatment over all the other ones, honestly I'm thinking it was just a giant ploy to see people's hard reads as I expected. | ||
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I'm honestly back to feeling a sentinel lynch with how hard he slipped up in his reasoning between kush/WoS | ||
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On October 31 2013 06:10 marvellosity wrote: Obviously the real nuke would be assigned randomly. Don't see why you're asking that. Because you specified that it was blocked/protected which I found strange. I just wanted to see your thought process. Idk ignoring this nuke thing for now until we have more info. | ||
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Could be because I powered up every person in the game yesterday lol | ||
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On October 31 2013 06:21 marvellosity wrote: What do you think he was right about? He put s&b back to null and he was being quite suspicious of rayn. probably rayn, im down with a rayn lynch today. He imploded after my list for no particular reason. Seemed weird. | ||
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