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On October 28 2013 13:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2013 13:15 Promethelax wrote:
Rayn, you powered up Marv and sent but not koshi, oats or I. You say you powered sent to force him to play. Why did you power Marv? Why did you not power the other three? I powered marv purely because of his "actually i am not sure if you should power me yet" comment.
And why did you choose to not power the other three?
I the resting sues, I can't say I agree with you but I like you. Thoughts on Marv.
Pandain, talk to me about Rayn, why is your vote on him? What were you hoping to accomplish by announcing your return to the thread and if you had to pick one of the people who claims to need to be powered up which would you power up!
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I the resisting = interesting sorry Seuss, my tablet is a butt munching ass licker.
Rayn, fair enough points. I approve and find you townie. As such you and I and maybe Marv are starting a townie circle, which I have the power to create.
Oats, why should I power you up? You think I am scum for a bad reason and are generally a silky bastard who I would not give roles to this early. Remember carnival cruise where you never crumbed your cop checks and in death cleared a scum? You can stay powerless thanks. If you think everyone should be powered why have you not powered me and Marv? The two best payers with power up abilities.
Pandain, the fick are you doing? Why announce your return and vanish again.
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Oh, point I wanted to make about koshi saying oats was 3p for being able to be levelled up by non town:
Koshi is scum.
I'll leave this to another power upper to explain as it should show them I am town and show me they are town.
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On October 28 2013 14:01 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2013 13:58 Promethelax wrote:
I the resisting = interesting sorry Seuss, my tablet is a butt munching ass licker.
Rayn, fair enough points. I approve and find you townie. As such you and I and maybe Marv are starting a townie circle, which I have the power to create.
Oats, why should I power you up? You think I am scum for a bad reason and are generally a silky bastard who I would not give roles to this early. Remember carnival cruise where you never crumbed your cop checks and in death cleared a scum? You can stay powerless thanks. If you think everyone should be powered why have you not powered me and Marv? The two best payers with power up abilities.
Pandain, the fick are you doing? Why announce your return and vanish again. ##twerkSince when are you good at blue Prome. I really dont expect this from you prome. You shit on me for no reason, and you havent called me scum yet, but arent willing to argue your reads with me or do anything to convince people that someone else is scum. You should power me because you think Im town and you havent said im scum.
I don't think you are scum. I think you are town.
Two reasons I won't power you: 1 is [redacted due to ongoing game] 2 you don't need a power role right now. There are few people who use day 1 power roles really well and you aren't one, if you were mod confirmed town I'd give you power but the risk reward between giving a scum you power and a town you power is not worth it.
Since forever am I good at blue. Look at my MS games or chronotrigger or...that might be all my blue games.
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On October 28 2013 14:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oh shit, good point WoS. I also want to know how WoS' entrance to the thread was scummy. I asked about it from PAndain already and he gave some wishy-washy answer.
Pandain and Prome, time to elaborate.
I'll let pandain explain himself.
I found it scummy because of soft town claim. Lack of any content. And dissonance with how I remember WoS. He liked town.
WoS people powering people for shits is bad. Reasoning for powering people is good. For instance if Rayn could be powered I would power him because he is good at the game (I'm told) but reads properly townie. I may (probably will) power Marv depending on the rest of the day. I wont power koshi because scum, I wont power oats because see above.
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Oats there is no case.
WoS had two points,
1) the powering thing, already addressed.
2) meta on him but not pandain, I've played with WoS before but not pandain.
Oh look, entire case refuted.
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On October 28 2013 14:11 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2013 14:08 Promethelax wrote:On October 28 2013 14:01 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 28 2013 13:58 Promethelax wrote:
I the resisting = interesting sorry Seuss, my tablet is a butt munching ass licker.
Rayn, fair enough points. I approve and find you townie. As such you and I and maybe Marv are starting a townie circle, which I have the power to create.
Oats, why should I power you up? You think I am scum for a bad reason and are generally a silky bastard who I would not give roles to this early. Remember carnival cruise where you never crumbed your cop checks and in death cleared a scum? You can stay powerless thanks. If you think everyone should be powered why have you not powered me and Marv? The two best payers with power up abilities.
Pandain, the fick are you doing? Why announce your return and vanish again. ##twerkSince when are you good at blue Prome. I really dont expect this from you prome. You shit on me for no reason, and you havent called me scum yet, but arent willing to argue your reads with me or do anything to convince people that someone else is scum. You should power me because you think Im town and you havent said im scum. I don't think you are scum. I think you are town. Two reasons I won't power you: 1 is [redacted due to ongoing game] 2 you don't need a power role right now. There are few people who use day 1 power roles really well and you aren't one, if you were mod confirmed town I'd give you power but the risk reward between giving a scum you power and a town you power is not worth it. Since forever am I good at blue. Look at my MS games or chronotrigger or...that might be all my blue games. What. You wont give me powers because you think Im bad? Non of my powers can hurt town, but they are nice to have. If you think Im town, there is literally no reason to not give me powers.
I'm not sure I can be clearer, I think you are town lets out a number to it (this will make the rest of this example easier to show you) I'm 65% sure you are town. There is a 35% chance you are scum. I believe that the way you would use a power role as scum would benefit your team at least twice as much as the way you using your power role as town would benefit your team. Thus I chose not to power you up because I felt the cost benefit analysis suggested that voting you would be more helpful to scum than to town.
Rayn, weigh In Here, am I being clear? Y/n
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On October 28 2013 14:18 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +So Prome, your reads list at the start of the game. All I remember is you saying you'd lynch me based on my entry to the thread. I don't see you pursuing your policy lynches, your apparent scumreads or your 'discussion.' Funny part is' you never actually call me scum, you just say you'd lynch me based on me entering the thread and leaving, and even THEN you don't pursue it, and have not mentioned me even once since then.
Go prome!.
I found WoS's first post scummy. I pursued Rayn on his powering people up but he gave good answers so I didn't want to lynch him. WoS is now back in the thread attacking and omgusing me, I still find that scummy. He read the whole thread and only comments on me, when I'm clearly pausing a town agenda which he even notices in his first post back but wouldn't have expected it from me.
All in all WoS doesn't have anything g to say and you are parroting him because you are mad at me. Not because he has made good points,
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On October 28 2013 14:22 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2013 14:16 Promethelax wrote:
Oats there is no case.
WoS had two points,
1) the powering thing, already addressed.
2) meta on him but not pandain, I've played with WoS before but not pandain.
Oh look, entire case refuted. Yeah, no Prome. First, the section Oats outlined. Second, I know how you play. You fucking meta the absolute fuck out of everybody in most games. Why are you halting at Pandain now? You say I 'liked' town? When I had played with you last that was all I had played. Period. If anything I remember bitching about still not having rolled scum yet. Third, the policy lynch discussion---who did you have in mind in your first post when you discussed people randomly powering people up without reasoning?
Because I have never played with pandain before p, I cannot use meta when there is no meta. Are you fucking dumb?
It was originally addressed to Rayn and koshi. I find Rayn town and koshi scum.
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On October 28 2013 14:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2013 14:20 Promethelax wrote:On October 28 2013 14:11 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 28 2013 14:08 Promethelax wrote:On October 28 2013 14:01 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 28 2013 13:58 Promethelax wrote:
I the resisting = interesting sorry Seuss, my tablet is a butt munching ass licker.
Rayn, fair enough points. I approve and find you townie. As such you and I and maybe Marv are starting a townie circle, which I have the power to create.
Oats, why should I power you up? You think I am scum for a bad reason and are generally a silky bastard who I would not give roles to this early. Remember carnival cruise where you never crumbed your cop checks and in death cleared a scum? You can stay powerless thanks. If you think everyone should be powered why have you not powered me and Marv? The two best payers with power up abilities.
Pandain, the fick are you doing? Why announce your return and vanish again. ##twerkSince when are you good at blue Prome. I really dont expect this from you prome. You shit on me for no reason, and you havent called me scum yet, but arent willing to argue your reads with me or do anything to convince people that someone else is scum. You should power me because you think Im town and you havent said im scum. I don't think you are scum. I think you are town. Two reasons I won't power you: 1 is [redacted due to ongoing game] 2 you don't need a power role right now. There are few people who use day 1 power roles really well and you aren't one, if you were mod confirmed town I'd give you power but the risk reward between giving a scum you power and a town you power is not worth it. Since forever am I good at blue. Look at my MS games or chronotrigger or...that might be all my blue games. What. You wont give me powers because you think Im bad? Non of my powers can hurt town, but they are nice to have. If you think Im town, there is literally no reason to not give me powers. I'm not sure I can be clearer, I think you are town lets out a number to it (this will make the rest of this example easier to show you) I'm 65% sure you are town. There is a 35% chance you are scum. I believe that the way you would use a power role as scum would benefit your team at least twice as much as the way you using your power role as town would benefit your team. Thus I chose not to power you up because I felt the cost benefit analysis suggested that voting you would be more helpful to scum than to town. Rayn, weigh In Here, am I being clear? Y/n Yes, and i think you think alike me regarding the powers. Could you give me an updated read on Pandain?
I could but its too early to be clear with each other. Lets play a game:
This post is the one I find most alignment indicative
Tell me why and which alignment I think he is
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On October 28 2013 14:28 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2013 14:25 Oatsmaster wrote:
Man all the time this happens to me, I jump on a townie being scummy to me and scum jumps right on after.
Not that Prome is town and WoS is scum, just that WoS is way more likely to be scum if Prome is town. Do you think as scum I would be likely to attack a town Prom as my primary mislynch target? Prom is there a reason you don't feel like talking to me and instead feel the need to graze over my questions with Oats instead? Am I bothering you?
Because oats keeps niggling at them, like he cares, like town. So I talk to him. The fact that you are being dumb bothers me, I didn't think you were dumb. So now I have to figure out if scum or dumb, which sucks,
Sorry I'm being hostile, it's been a long day I had to hang out with my future mother-in-law and it was stressful. I'm going to grab a beer and tone it down a little. Seriously though, thinking I'd want to meta pandain when I haven't played with him or (maybe this wasn't clear and its why you are confused) read a game with him in it in real time is really silly. I love meta, dont get me wrong but I can't meta people with whom I have no history. Also I hosted your first scum game. You were a nervous wreck.
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On October 28 2013 14:33 Oatsmaster wrote:
So prome, are you gonna tell us the answer to the first question you asked about Koshi?
Which question do you mean oats?
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On October 28 2013 14:33 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2013 13:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Pandain since you are here, you have yet to explain the WoS read. I already explained it. I said as an addendum that I was also slightly suspicious of WoS and I explained why. You then seem to not understand that I may have reasons for suspecting someone which are different then yours. Show nested quote +On October 28 2013 13:30 Promethelax wrote:On October 28 2013 13:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 28 2013 13:15 Promethelax wrote:
Rayn, you powered up Marv and sent but not koshi, oats or I. You say you powered sent to force him to play. Why did you power Marv? Why did you not power the other three? I powered marv purely because of his "actually i am not sure if you should power me yet" comment. And why did you choose to not power the other three? I the resting sues, I can't say I agree with you but I like you. Thoughts on Marv. Pandain, talk to me about Rayn, why is your vote on him? What were you hoping to accomplish by announcing your return to the thread and if you had to pick one of the people who claims to need to be powered up which would you power up! I saw a post which said "I'll talk to Pan when he's here" so figure I won't just randomly lurk. My vote is on him originally because he did a whole bunch of scum tells which are indicative of scum. It's not certain or definitive, but it's a read that I had. It got further bolstered by later posts until I had a realization about why he may have revealed his power to Marv, which means I couldn't make my original assumption of limited facts. I don't want to power up anyone because it's like the first three hours of day one. I don't mind other people doing it that much because I think it's retarded, because ultimately I don't think scum would be that bold trying to get themselves powered up at first(so first two are safe); although of course that's not definitive. If I had to power up anyone it would be Koshi because he's posting like a town Koshi for me. + Show Spoiler + On October 28 2013 13:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2013 13:30 Promethelax wrote:On October 28 2013 13:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 28 2013 13:15 Promethelax wrote:
Rayn, you powered up Marv and sent but not koshi, oats or I. You say you powered sent to force him to play. Why did you power Marv? Why did you not power the other three? I powered marv purely because of his "actually i am not sure if you should power me yet" comment. And why did you choose to not power the other three? I the resting sues, I can't say I agree with you but I like you. Thoughts on Marv. Pandain, talk to me about Rayn, why is your vote on him? What were you hoping to accomplish by announcing your return to the thread and if you had to pick one of the people who claims to need to be powered up which would you power up! Okay so here is it in full. marv came up in thread with this: Show nested quote +On October 28 2013 06:19 marvellosity wrote:
So... I'm going to need a bunch of you to ##twerk for me at some point. :/ Then he says this: Show nested quote +On October 28 2013 06:37 marvellosity wrote:On October 28 2013 06:34 HotCottonCandy wrote:
also marvellosity what does your ##twerk thing consist of? is this also something we should activate during the day? I have certain abilities at night that I can use based on how many people ##Twerk for me during the day. I think I'd rather deal with it a bit later in the day though, although I'm not going to stop anyone doing it if they want to. And this: Show nested quote +On October 28 2013 06:42 marvellosity wrote:
There's a somewhat subtle aspect to it that makes me want to leave it until later in the day, because in part it relies on my reads on players. rayn thought process: "marv needs people to power him up. There are other people who also needs powering up. Let's power marv up, especially when he suddenly doesn't want people to power him up, maybe... This is what most likely happens:
(1) marv is town, he does good stuff with his powers
(2) if he does bad stuff with his powers, or suddenly does not have a power-up power at all, he is probably scum
(3) something else, we gain info"Now i do not trust Koshi's (or anyone's else's) ability to do good stuff on D1 or N1 with their power in this game other than you, myself, and marv (no offense to anyone). I also powered up Sentinel because his power would be incredibly easy to fake as scum. "Hey guys, i only need 14 "votes" on me and then i can do good". I really want to know what he does, at worst, he is scum and something bad happens, but it's one time use (as he claimed - if he is lying, we lynch him) and i wanted to confirm that he is not lying and make him burn his power asap because he apparently thinks it's best to use now as he didn't oppose the powering. It gives me a much better read on him based on what the power is. That being said: ##yolo Promethelax Oh god this is awful reasoning I like Oats so far Show nested quote +On October 28 2013 13:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 28 2013 13:48 Seuss wrote:---- Okay. I didn't say it made you scum, just that I got a slight scum read. It's not like I went "QED rayn scum" and slammed a vote in your face. Your post that most stood out to me was this one: On October 28 2013 08:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 28 2013 08:01 Pandain wrote:
Rayn, assuming there is at least one mafia here(even me), who do you think is mafia.
And why. I have no idea if anyone here is mafia yet. How exactly am i buddying marv? And how do you even know i used a power on him? I'll be honest and say this could be a perfectly reasonable position, and you could argue that Pandain might be trying to trap you, but it's still a short answer that doesn't say anything. The second question is also pretty bleh. It's obvious to any observer that you used a power on marvellosity and immediately unused it. Up until this point you didn't even try and pan it off as anything other than an "oops", and suddenly you're being all coy about it. Questioning basic assumptions isn't the scummiest thing in the world, but in this case you just looked flippant and shady. I'd be interested to hear more on that point. wow wow wow buddy. I don't understand the "Pandain might be trying to trap you", could you elaborate what you mean? I was totally not buddying marv, in fact it was the opposite as i just explained rofl. Now, how is that "clear for everyone that i used a power on marv"? Why can't i just type like ##kill Seuss , did i use a power on you now? Pandain somehow seems to know that i used a power on him, what's wrong with the question? Because if Pandain is scum he would know i am town and townies usually do not lie about using powers. Either you totally bullshitted and bullshitted for three posts which I couldn't know you were lying or it's super obvious that you used a power on Marv. Show nested quote +On October 28 2013 13:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And tbh Pandain should know i am the most likely person in this game to lie about using a power in the first place regardless of my alignment..
That's why the point he brings on me is extremely ridicuous. What? I agree with WoS Prom is suspicious. If anything don't defend me for try-hardyness. If I make a poor case, even if i seem to try hard, and keep going on it, and people in that situation if I made a bad case would easily refute me (wich dey didn't btw), then I shouldn't keep with it. Poor reason to defend a townie who seems suspicious (but really shouldn't be cuz if you look deeper he's town). See: All my games where I buddy a supicious townie Show nested quote +On October 28 2013 14:21 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 28 2013 14:17 Pandain wrote:
I mean I thought it was a real power and it sounded deadly against Koshi.
What was I supposed to do? r u 4 realz? r u Show nested quote +On October 28 2013 14:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 28 2013 14:17 Pandain wrote:
I mean I thought it was a real power and it sounded deadly against Koshi.
What was I supposed to do? Did it ever occur to you that i am not bad enough to use "deadly power" on someone based on 1 post? We see your play differently then. To clarify again for everyone early suspicions on Prom aren't substantial, yet. Just indications. Nothing will be solidified until probably after I wake up in 12 hours.
How are you suspicious of me? You snuck In one comment on me being scummy for liking try hardness and addressed a mega quote post to Rayn which concluded with my scumminess.
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On October 28 2013 14:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2013 14:30 Promethelax wrote:On October 28 2013 14:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 28 2013 14:20 Promethelax wrote:On October 28 2013 14:11 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 28 2013 14:08 Promethelax wrote:On October 28 2013 14:01 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 28 2013 13:58 Promethelax wrote:
I the resisting = interesting sorry Seuss, my tablet is a butt munching ass licker.
Rayn, fair enough points. I approve and find you townie. As such you and I and maybe Marv are starting a townie circle, which I have the power to create.
Oats, why should I power you up? You think I am scum for a bad reason and are generally a silky bastard who I would not give roles to this early. Remember carnival cruise where you never crumbed your cop checks and in death cleared a scum? You can stay powerless thanks. If you think everyone should be powered why have you not powered me and Marv? The two best payers with power up abilities.
Pandain, the fick are you doing? Why announce your return and vanish again. ##twerkSince when are you good at blue Prome. I really dont expect this from you prome. You shit on me for no reason, and you havent called me scum yet, but arent willing to argue your reads with me or do anything to convince people that someone else is scum. You should power me because you think Im town and you havent said im scum. I don't think you are scum. I think you are town. Two reasons I won't power you: 1 is [redacted due to ongoing game] 2 you don't need a power role right now. There are few people who use day 1 power roles really well and you aren't one, if you were mod confirmed town I'd give you power but the risk reward between giving a scum you power and a town you power is not worth it. Since forever am I good at blue. Look at my MS games or chronotrigger or...that might be all my blue games. What. You wont give me powers because you think Im bad? Non of my powers can hurt town, but they are nice to have. If you think Im town, there is literally no reason to not give me powers. I'm not sure I can be clearer, I think you are town lets out a number to it (this will make the rest of this example easier to show you) I'm 65% sure you are town. There is a 35% chance you are scum. I believe that the way you would use a power role as scum would benefit your team at least twice as much as the way you using your power role as town would benefit your team. Thus I chose not to power you up because I felt the cost benefit analysis suggested that voting you would be more helpful to scum than to town. Rayn, weigh In Here, am I being clear? Y/n Yes, and i think you think alike me regarding the powers. Could you give me an updated read on Pandain? I could but its too early to be clear with each other. Lets play a game: This post is the one I find most alignment indicative Tell me why and which alignment I think he is Based on the context and my thoguht process at that time i do not find that post alignment indicative at all. If there was something alignment indicative in that post, to me it would be that Pandain for some reason at first refused to give out the game (i am not sure if he did figure out what i was after in the first place) -- and that would point towards him being scum. But i do not think it's the case here. Why do you think that post is alignment indicative and to which direction?
He didn't want to give out the game because it was personally embarrassing. But when pressed he went ahead with it without putting up any real fight. That seems to me to be the action of a scum trying to be seen as working hard for a better town environment (the classic "please post your filter from that game" scum tactic where one tries to appear involved) without actually adding anything to the town. Were I a townie embarrassed of a past game I'd refuse to post it, he didn't really fight it.
Also the most recent post on me being scummy is, well, scummy. If he wanted to call me scum he could have made a case. Instead he quote padded his post to talk at you and added his attack on me in one line and concluded that I was scummy while leaving himself an out.
I'd take pandain is likely red with koshi.
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On October 28 2013 14:44 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2013 14:35 Promethelax wrote:On October 28 2013 14:28 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 28 2013 14:25 Oatsmaster wrote:
Man all the time this happens to me, I jump on a townie being scummy to me and scum jumps right on after.
Not that Prome is town and WoS is scum, just that WoS is way more likely to be scum if Prome is town. Do you think as scum I would be likely to attack a town Prom as my primary mislynch target? Prom is there a reason you don't feel like talking to me and instead feel the need to graze over my questions with Oats instead? Am I bothering you? Because oats keeps niggling at them, like he cares, like town. So I talk to him. The fact that you are being dumb bothers me, I didn't think you were dumb. So now I have to figure out if scum or dumb, which sucks, Sorry I'm being hostile, it's been a long day I had to hang out with my future mother-in-law and it was stressful. I'm going to grab a beer and tone it down a little. Seriously though, thinking I'd want to meta pandain when I haven't played with him or (maybe this wasn't clear and its why you are confused) read a game with him in it in real time is really silly. I love meta, dont get me wrong but I can't meta people with whom I have no history. Also I hosted your first scum game. You were a nervous wreck. + Show Spoiler +(I seem to remember you previously showing examples of meta like crazy even when you haven't played with the targets of your cases, but I could be mistaking you for someone else as I haven't been able to dig anything up.) It's my only scum game. I've been 3P three times and haven't had a scumgame since. It's allll in my profile. The point of that being you really think you can have even a weak meta read on me based on how I played months ago, without having looked at my play since? In your experience are people that stagnant over 10 games that you should be able to pick out my town meta instantly? Whether or not I am right or wrong regarding you and your alignment, it is my opinion that a read of me based on meta, assuming you haven't read into me just like you haven't read into Pandain would be bad play, and I know you aren't a bad player. It's that 'you're better than this' vibe that I seem to get (which incidentally made me right about Palmar in THug, and much earlier BH in Carnival Cruise) that pops up every so often, and your very first post struck a chord with me there as well. I can't explain that one nearly as well, but it essentially amounts to you stating the extremely obvious, which may be necessary for a town to hear, I suppose, but then again I knew very well not to be running around activating powers willy-nilly from the first time I experienced them---so oes it REALLY need to be said, or something that is supposed to make you look good for a good towny post?
I can have a weak meta read on you. I wouldn't trust it to lynch you on but it's there none the less. I assume you've changed, but I only know what I know. My read on you was based on four or five things one of which was weak meta.
Yes my first post needed to be posted people were being powered up left and right. Just because you were smart enough not to do it doesn't mean that the player base as a whole was that smart, go look at the sent countdown and tell me I'm wrong.
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On October 28 2013 14:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Pandain why are you saying you look bad yourself?
If you are town you are supposed to be right and your posting now does not imply you yourself think you are right..
##Vote: Pandain
That isn't what I'd pick up On There. Look instead at the fact that he posted it to avoid suspicion, like I said. Scum doing something that doesn't matter to look townie,
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On October 28 2013 15:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
##vote Pandain!
Yeahhhhh lets all vote for him when he cant respond
Lol, I was about to suggest we all vote WoS because he went to sleep.
Rayn: look in his explanation that you quoted. His reasoning is non townie. To avoid suspicion is crap,
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Panda bear man say he no want to be looked at mean, if panda bear man is green he doesn't care but pa da bear man is red and cares about his image. He doesn't want people to think he is bad panda bear man.
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On October 28 2013 15:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2013 15:09 Promethelax wrote:
Panda bear man say he no want to be looked at mean, if panda bear man is green he doesn't care but pa da bear man is red and cares about his image. He doesn't want people to think he is bad panda bear man. Yes i get that's what you are saying. What i do not get is why would Pandabearguy as mafia think he looks worse if he refuses to post the game?
Because mafia. You get a little nervous and you act out of character for a townie.
Oats: I think so. Why did you decide to give me power?
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You never took economics, did you?
What happened to make your read change? Why do you read me as town now?
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