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HotCottonCandy
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada188 Posts
October 28 2013 16:27 GMT
#691
On October 29 2013 01:22 marvellosity wrote:
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On October 29 2013 01:21 HotCottonCandy wrote:
On October 29 2013 01:14 marvellosity wrote:
On October 29 2013 01:10 HotCottonCandy wrote:
On October 29 2013 01:08 marvellosity wrote:
I really just wanna see what this power of his is :x

Why you twerk when I say not to twerk yet :<


You said that a day ago, and I really wanted to get this stuff out of the way so we can just play the game. (not bitter or anything)

It was like 16 hours ago, and we're not even halfway through Day 1 yet. I also said I had reasons for wanting to delay it, based on my developing reads. The fact you ignored this makes me pretty sad, when I think you've been generally attentive to other stuff so far.


That's fine, I let a minor annoyance affect my play and it will cost me. Moving on and I assume we will be pals again later.

I guess what I'm getting at here with the clarity thing is: Look at how StrongandBig re-entered the thread and compare it to how clarity_nl entered the thread, it is essentially almost identical but people are praising strongandbig and shunning clarity. Seems like a case of double standards here that I would like to pursue.

It's simple from my perspective - I don't think Clarity should be believing what he wrote as town, whereas I have no such issue with s&b.


So it is based on their metas then correct? I would like to hear from other people why snb = town clarity = bad all the same.

Any questions for me before I go get lunch?
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HotCottonCandy
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada188 Posts
October 28 2013 16:38 GMT
#695
alright I will take a look at that game when I get back. Maybe that's the missing piece I am searching for.

For now, toodles cuties
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HotCottonCandy
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada188 Posts
October 28 2013 23:20 GMT
#794
@sentinel yes I'm a smurf but lets be honest here I am not using meta against anyone so it's not like I have a leg up. I'm simply pressuring you for your actions so far. Could you give me some scumreads or something that bothers you or anything?

I don't really have a problem with cleaning out the rifraff either and I'll gladly vote for OOHCHILD. it's essentially a random lynch with a bias towards someone being intentionally useless and I have no qualms about that.

sadface to koshi's list, pretty contentless bar a few people like WaveofShadow and Seuss. Decent enough I guess.

@Pandain I have a hard time believing you could make cases and write in detail yesterday while on meds. Seems like a strange excuse but whatever. Not here to judge on that kind of stuff but if it comes down to the wire it certainly wont help you.
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HotCottonCandy
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada188 Posts
October 29 2013 00:10 GMT
#812
On October 29 2013 09:09 VayneAuthority wrote:
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On October 29 2013 09:03 marvellosity wrote:
If people aren't convinced at what I'm getting at with Clarity, then they *must* go back and read Clarity's (admittedly long) and Oats' filter from Heavyweight Championship mafia.

Clarity had a scumread for Oats for a good chunk of the game and Oats ended up flipping town. This is all tempo relevant, and by that I mean Clarity literally just came from a game where he read Oats as mafia and he flipped town, and Oats looks better this game. It's more than just me thinking some random player shouldn't be finding Oats scummy, it's a very specific read based on a specific game that just happened.


It could simply be one of those cases where a certain playstyle irks you the wrong way and you always find them scummy regardless. I went back and read that filter at your discretion and that is what it felt like to me more. Clarity_nl simply despises Oatsmaster's playstyle and it seems will always find him scummy regardless of what he does. I am not ready to vote for him based on another game.


for filter
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HotCottonCandy
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada188 Posts
October 29 2013 00:16 GMT
#821
On October 29 2013 09:15 marvellosity wrote:
HotCottonCandy, now you're exposed, would you mind telling us why you decided to smurf?


to get away from meta and such and just play the game. probably won't be as fun now!
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HotCottonCandy
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada188 Posts
October 29 2013 00:25 GMT
#828
On October 29 2013 09:22 Pandain wrote:
I could see OOChild/Clarity being scum/3P (not sure in which order).

Not sure that town could successfully be on the track of two scums, however.



Doesn't seem that crazy considering the potential town prowess we have in this game. Scum are probably struggling to keep up.
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HotCottonCandy
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada188 Posts
October 29 2013 15:11 GMT
#1134
looks like the game blew up while I was sleeping, catching up now
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HotCottonCandy
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada188 Posts
October 29 2013 15:29 GMT
#1157
On October 29 2013 23:15 marvellosity wrote:
This is still giving me the heebie jeebies
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On October 29 2013 19:39 marvellosity wrote:
One of the problems I'm having is that we have these players with in-thread powers/powerups:

Promethelax
Oatsmaster
marvellosity
Koshi
Sentinel

Are they really all town?



Yea I brought this up earlier in the game and is part of the reason I have been pushing sentinel. Gaming the set-up in small games like this is actually extremely powerful even if others find it lame. I highly doubt town just has 5 charging powers running around in thread in a 13 man game. Sentinel looks by far the worst on this list. Could be Koshi but his recent posting is way better, so I still feel really good about a sentinel lynch today.


As far as clarity and OOHChild go

This OOHChild fellow seems to be doing bad things to all my strongest townreads (I doubt shun is something good) and is kinda just refusing to find scum besides making a weak case on marv(lol why?) That is the only thing that makes me believe he could possibly be town. If he's a smurf and making a case on marv day 1 to save himself then he is town. If he's just a new player then could go either way. this is where it helps to know these things.

Since I blew my cover ill say this about clarity: Martyring is my least favorite thing in mafia, With that said,

On October 29 2013 23:07 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2013 23:06 Promethelax wrote:
Clarity: you should post ##Yolo Promethelax and ##Refudiate Oatsmaster and [b ] ##Twerk [/ b]


Welp, I think marv is town, sadly. So if marv says I should then I should. Don't have a read on you and oats atm,


He has done one thing offensively this game and it consisted of attacking oats. To forget about the only thing you have done in this entire game I have to imagine he is being genuine.

So i ask people to switch back to sentinel or I will be voting for OOHChild as my second choice.
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HotCottonCandy
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada188 Posts
October 29 2013 15:31 GMT
#1159
ninja'd it seems, have a hard time believing the troll is mafia if he's a smurf.
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HotCottonCandy
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada188 Posts
October 29 2013 15:36 GMT
#1164
On October 30 2013 00:33 marvellosity wrote:
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On October 30 2013 00:31 HotCottonCandy wrote:
ninja'd it seems, have a hard time believing the troll is mafia if he's a smurf.

I've no real reason to disbelieve his story that he's played mafia before but not on this site.


Im in a position where I want to dispose of him simply due to bad scum teams winning constantly with minimal effort. I would feel pretty good with a scum or town lynch of him lol. But at the same time I know what it is like to be policy voted so I would simply be a hypocrite. I think if we have any town KP power that is the best way to take care of this.
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HotCottonCandy
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada188 Posts
October 29 2013 15:41 GMT
#1166
On October 30 2013 00:35 marvellosity wrote:
I guess after all I want to lynch into WoS/Pandain today.


What is the cases on them? Pandain has looked flaky but nothing too serious to warrant a lynch.

WoS randomly boosted Seuss who I haven't looked into at all but that seems incredibly weird. I guess that's worth pursuing.
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HotCottonCandy
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada188 Posts
October 29 2013 15:52 GMT
#1182
I can get behind that, my lynch isn't going anywhere =/

##Unvote

##vote Waveofshadow

when's deadline tho?
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HotCottonCandy
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada188 Posts
October 29 2013 15:54 GMT
#1187
On October 30 2013 00:52 marvellosity wrote:
rayn what does Koshi forgetting Pandain mean?


means either him or sentinel is the scum charger if that wasn't already obvious. Sucks for them that the other 3 are pretty clearly town unless Oats is a scum god now
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HotCottonCandy
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada188 Posts
October 29 2013 16:54 GMT
#1247
I could also lynch this seuss guy if we are not lynching sentinel or WoS. but claiming was like the last thing I wanted WoS to do.

The fake power thing seems especially out of place considering how much WoS hates people faking roles as town. zzz
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HotCottonCandy
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada188 Posts
October 29 2013 16:56 GMT
#1250
On October 30 2013 01:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
Why is no one wanting to lynch SnB?? I dont understand.



same reason no one wants to lynch sentinel, nobody cares about our reads ^^
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HotCottonCandy
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada188 Posts
October 29 2013 17:19 GMT
#1309
marv it's actually pretty plausible considering vote riggers aren't as broken for town as they are for scum. It's a themed game so let us not just vote by their role. I am going to throw a curve ball here and go to pandain, everyone has thrown light suspicion on him but nothing has really come to fruition.

##unvote

##vote:pandain

feel pretty good about this in the end.
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HotCottonCandy
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada188 Posts
October 29 2013 17:28 GMT
#1332
On October 30 2013 02:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also CandymanAuthority why are you voting for Pandain? Case please if you think he is scum.


It's not based on what he is doing but rather what the thread is doing. Go through and count how many times he has been mentioned randomly for pretty much no reason when there isn't even a discussion on him!

There is so much light suspicion on him but nobody is pushing him or doing anything about it, it's just oh yea he's scummy maybe idk.

This is usually scum when this happens because they are just skating by in thread and their buddies try to make him look bad but not too bad so he blends in.

even though he is not playing to his scum meta here I think he has a good chance of flipping scum for other reasons in a nutshell.
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HotCottonCandy
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada188 Posts
October 29 2013 17:30 GMT
#1335
On October 30 2013 02:29 Pandain wrote:
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On October 30 2013 02:28 HotCottonCandy wrote:
On October 30 2013 02:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also CandymanAuthority why are you voting for Pandain? Case please if you think he is scum.


It's not based on what he is doing but rather what the thread is doing. Go through and count how many times he has been mentioned randomly for pretty much no reason when there isn't even a discussion on him!

There is so much light suspicion on him but nobody is pushing him or doing anything about it, it's just oh yea he's scummy maybe idk.

This is usually scum when this happens because they are just skating by in thread and their buddies try to make him look bad but not too bad so he blends in.

even though he is not playing to his scum meta here I think he has a good chance of flipping scum for other reasons in a nutshell.


This is awful assumption-based reasoning.
Perhaps it's that I'm town?
You think I'm scum based on how others are reacting to me.


yes is that a problem 0o? I can't make a good case on you but I still feel good about it.
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HotCottonCandy
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada188 Posts
October 29 2013 17:34 GMT
#1342
On October 30 2013 02:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2013 02:28 HotCottonCandy wrote:
On October 30 2013 02:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also CandymanAuthority why are you voting for Pandain? Case please if you think he is scum.


It's not based on what he is doing but rather what the thread is doing. Go through and count how many times he has been mentioned randomly for pretty much no reason when there isn't even a discussion on him!

There is so much light suspicion on him but nobody is pushing him or doing anything about it, it's just oh yea he's scummy maybe idk.

This is usually scum when this happens because they are just skating by in thread and their buddies try to make him look bad but not too bad so he blends in.

even though he is not playing to his scum meta here I think he has a good chance of flipping scum for other reasons in a nutshell.

I do not think this is a good reasoning for thinking someone is scum. It just means people are unsure of his alignment, including townies for sure. There is evidence that says - even if scum are casting light suspicion on him without pushing - that townies are doing that aswell. Therefore that cannot possibly tell anything about Pandain's alignment.


you are thinking about it the wrong way imo

Townies casting suspicion on pandain = led to others doing it to blend in ---> turned into all pandain suspicion getting buried in the mess = suspicious ---> leads me to believe that he was soft pushed by teammates ---> not stupid logic
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HotCottonCandy
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada188 Posts
October 29 2013 17:35 GMT
#1344
On October 30 2013 02:34 marvellosity wrote:
HotCottonCandy - do you have a role? Don't want to know what, just whether you do or not.


No.
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