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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
October 31 2013 16:12 GMT
#2477
marv, do you know off hand who else still has nukes besides me and you (well obviously you don't anymore but yeah)
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
October 31 2013 16:16 GMT
#2483
hey marv. You need a twerk? Or should I still refrain?

You know who I wanna lynch? Vayne. I wanna lynch Vayne.

##Vote Hotcottoncanday
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
October 31 2013 16:17 GMT
#2485
On November 01 2013 01:14 HotCottonCandy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 01:07 Promethelax wrote:
Would also be okay lynching you Vayne. Though I think you are better than a nuke. Congratulations.


what does this mean btw? Scumread so strong you want a guaranteed kill?


It means nukes are like vig shots, they are to clear the chaff. You aren't chaff.
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
October 31 2013 16:20 GMT
#2489
yes, yes it is. I also guarantee that not smoking weed makes things a bunch easier on me than on you. But I work from 7/9pm to 6 in the morning so, I say it again, get over yourself.

Did you come back to this thread just to argue with me about how much you work?
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
October 31 2013 16:31 GMT
#2497
So, Vayne's been tunneling Sent all game but hasn't actually pushed a lynch on him, this time is no different than earlier. He has been making cases and calling Sent scum but not pushing this lynch. Would be very happy with a lynch on Vayne.
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Promethelax
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Canada7089 Posts
October 31 2013 16:32 GMT
#2498
On November 01 2013 01:28 OOHCHILD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 01:24 marvellosity wrote:
On November 01 2013 01:23 OOHCHILD wrote:
On November 01 2013 01:20 Promethelax wrote:
Did you come back to this thread just to argue with me about how much you work?


Did you?? because that's all you are doing. you started it.
I complained. My complaining was justified because i was trying to excuse my shittiness.
Then you complain about my complaining which is even worse than the complaining to begin with.

Save your breath, you did the same in Noir and Sicilian, so it certainly isn't any sort of excuse for anything.


yeah but i am way more active this game than i would be as scum.

also why no pressure at all from anyone on promethelax...he is literally doing nothing.


Well come pressure me bro. If you think I'm scum you can pressure me; if not you can put a dick in it. Those are your options.
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
October 31 2013 16:40 GMT
#2506
On October 31 2013 23:33 strongandbig wrote:
##Twerk
Let me know if I got that wrong

Anyway I looked at sent again. I read his filter this game and his filter from noir where he was scum. No quotes cause on phone.

Filter this game feels very different from noir filter. Noir he was way more "srsbsns I'm makin reads guise". However, I can't decide whether that indicates an alignment difference or if it's just cause this game is a crazy themed game where he got a troll role from the hosts.

I'm still a little stuck on the stuff at the start of the game about not retweeting koshi, then doing Marv, then doing koshi anyway. It just all feels pretty over-done/under-explained, if that makes sense.

Also I kind of have a problem with him not really talking about anyone but kush and himself (and wos I guess). Like, the stuff in his case is mostly true - kush's actions were pretty much objectively scummy and terrible. But it's pretty convenient if sent's scum. But on the other hand, I know that can also happen to a townie under pressure, and judging by his noir filter it's not like tunneling is a scum tell for him.

In conclusion: Sentinel could very well be scum, and I would say he's higher on my scummy list than many others in this game, but I'm far from convinced.


So what conclusion do you agree with here marv?
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
October 31 2013 16:55 GMT
#2510
No you said the meta was right. Sent is playing dis-similarly to how he played previously as scum. He is also playing dis-similarly to how he has played as town. So is the meta conclusion 3P? Like I get that you agree that SnB is right about the meta change in Sent's play; I just don't get what you believe about Sent because of that.
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 02 2013 11:07 GMT
#3247
Hey all I'm back and raring for action. Catching up on the thread. Thoughts will be posted when I have them.

One thing I considered when I was at work at some point Koshi (I think) said that if Seuss was scum WoS would have been a good night kill. I looked at the flip: I'd like to take a special focus on koshi and see if he might have known why WoS was shot.

The other thing the flip informs is that pandain = town. Since having two scum voting powers would be super OP.

Updates to follow.

P.s. fuck the town in that OMGus game.
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 02 2013 11:16 GMT
#3248
On November 01 2013 15:04 Pandain wrote:
Does no one actually see any of what I've said in my SnB analysis or have you guys just not read it.
Maybe that type of analysis is too old-school


I read your analysis I just had two problems with it1)it was bad and 2)I think SnB is town
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 02 2013 11:25 GMT
#3249
On November 01 2013 18:47 OOHCHILD wrote:
Marv, are you incapable of this LENGTH of filter as scum?


Allow me to add my meta read of Marv: yes, he is incapable of that.
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 02 2013 11:42 GMT
#3250
Something which just occurred to me, in some ways I've been relying heavily on Rayn/koshi's reads on each other. I started the game having decided to treat Rayn as confirmed town since I knew he was supposed to be good and I'd seen him as town in a few games in all of which I read him as scum no matter his actual alignment. I decided to make the same deal with myself on Rayn as the one I made with Vivax in carnival cruise. This has been reinforced by koshi's read on him all game and my town read on koshi has been reinforced by Ryan's town read on him.

Where am I going with this? Well I've been wondering about the night kill on WoS, it only made sense with a scum in the big three players In This game (me, Marv and Rayn) I've been stuck on thinking it was Marv but looking at his play that seems totally impossible, I know it's not me. Well, what if it is Rayn? With koshi. Suddenly the weird reads on each other make sense, the WoS kill makes sense. Koshi's comment about the WoS kill makes sense. Rayn's use of his day powers makes sense, And the fact that I haven't been able to see a team that made sense...makes sense.

After looking at the omgus game I was reminded of the problem I'd created for myself with the oats/Ve dichotomy; I couldn't see them both being scum even though they individually reeked of it. Now, In This game, I couldn't see either of koshi/Rayn as scum because I required both of them to be scum.

I believe the last two scum are koshi and Rayn.

On page 144, still catching up.
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 02 2013 11:46 GMT
#3251
On November 01 2013 21:19 Koshi wrote:
wtf you want me to do? The guy is scum, I am not scum. I will laugh hard because it seems my case will be up first. I made a case against Seuss that was fucking perfect. I am not saying a bad townie can't act like Seuss did but I DO NO BELIEVE he was that kind of bad. Seuss had no strong feelings this game at all. Should NEVER have thought I was scum and Oats town from page 37 to 59. Shit like that is not possible.

When Seuss flips red, which I am quite confident in he will, like, my case is 100% legit. Even if I am scum, this is the best case I ever wrote ever.

So instead of asking me to look at other players, why don't you explain to me that what Seuss did was towny, or how big the chance was that Seuss is town?

Because after Seuss flips red I know some other guys that can flip red after. And my case on Seuss is not based on association. NOT A SINGLE POINT.


Holy shit. I actually believe this is a scum slip, I never thought I'd believe in a scum slip. But yeah...a scum slip.
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 02 2013 11:50 GMT
#3252
On November 01 2013 21:56 Oatsmaster wrote:
lol I got 7 power ups.
More than Marv. Thats funny.

You know what bugs me? That Prome was scared of giving me power because he felt he couldnt read me well. Now that I think about it, its pretty bullshit.


I can say this now: it had a LOT to do with the omgus game where I had you as town early and you were scum. I knew you were Scum there during the day one stuff here.
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 02 2013 12:02 GMT
#3254
On November 02 2013 06:15 OOHCHILD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2013 06:14 Pandain wrote:
Hey look his role is an anti twitter role


oh fuck me


I actually think this reflects really well on Kush, if he was Scum he knew this flip was coming and had time to prepare a defence (I.e. that dude uses twitter in a bad way; I just do t use twitter. Names = null) and instead he just feels role fucked.
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 02 2013 12:06 GMT
#3257
On November 02 2013 07:17 OOHCHILD wrote:
so scum are corrupted tweeters. those are probably people who fucked up twitter. i dont really fall into that category since my guy doesn't use twitter at all.


See, this defence. It's exactly what I'd have come up with as scum. Clearly exactly what Kush came up with. But Kush posts it an hour later, which is enough time to authentically come up with this. I'd say Kush = town.
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 02 2013 12:13 GMT
#3262
On November 02 2013 21:04 marvellosity wrote:
Promethelax, have you completely lost your marbles?


I'm not saying that's isnt the case... I'd lynch Rayn first between them for sure.
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 02 2013 12:29 GMT
#3269
On November 02 2013 21:16 marvellosity wrote:
Like I said about Koshi, he managed 2.5 pages of filter per cycle in GoT as mafia, this game he is averaging 9 pages per cycle.

If you're agreeing with me that I'm incapable of this size filter as mafia, then really the same has to apply to Koshi.

That's almost a 4x increase in posting rate he's pulled off this game if he's mafia...


You have a good point but if that is the case how does Rayn get away with a town read from koshi? Why does koshi have such a boner for scum knowledge slipping? Why are my pants on my head? Why are Ryan's panties on his head? Why are they so fabulous?
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 02 2013 12:30 GMT
#3272
On November 02 2013 21:29 Koshi wrote:
I am liking Promes filter less now. :>

Prome you think both Oats/you can be town? Or better all 4 of us power gatherers?

If we look at Seuss there are 4 people he interacted the most with.
You who helped him enter the thread. You were mentioned as strong townread in his analysis on you/SnB/Oats.
WoS who gave him townread after that and encouraged posting. WoS who Seuss counterclaimed but never pushed as lynch.
Oats who Seuss had as weak scumread. But gave a power up because he was sure he was town. And then during N1 was flailing around until he was forced to reread and give weak scumread.
Sentinel on who Seuss was pushing after WoS cc.

If you arent scum Prome, you need to look at Oats. I said this before as well and Oats first reaction was to push you as scum. Thoughts?




I just played a game with Scum oats. His attitude here is vastly different than his attitude there. He cares about what Marv and I think about him here.
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 02 2013 12:32 GMT
#3274
On November 02 2013 21:30 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2013 21:29 Koshi wrote:
I am liking Promes filter less now. :>

Prome you think both Oats/you can be town? Or better all 4 of us power gatherers?

If we look at Seuss there are 4 people he interacted the most with.
You who helped him enter the thread. You were mentioned as strong townread in his analysis on you/SnB/Oats.
WoS who gave him townread after that and encouraged posting. WoS who Seuss counterclaimed but never pushed as lynch.
Oats who Seuss had as weak scumread. But gave a power up because he was sure he was town. And then during N1 was flailing around until he was forced to reread and give weak scumread.
Sentinel on who Seuss was pushing after WoS cc.

If you arent scum Prome, you need to look at Oats. I said this before as well and Oats first reaction was to push you as scum. Thoughts?




I just played a game with Scum oats. His attitude here is vastly different than his attitude there. He cares about what Marv and I think about him here.

Part of the oats meta is he is a but like a puppy dog, or a younger brother, he really wants approval from people he likes. People like me and Marv. You can see that very present in this game and it makes me lean quite townie on him.
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