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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 30 2013 23:45 GMT
#2273
Oh my dear god marv.. :/
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 30 2013 23:53 GMT
#2278
I am now going to go buy cigarrettes. I will answer you when i am back. Apparently i need to tell this from now on.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 31 2013 00:22 GMT
#2283
On October 31 2013 08:47 marvellosity wrote:
Not "oh my dear god"

For you to be town I have to accept you randomly went somewhere you can't remember to buy cigarettes with lynch coming up immediately, and you somehow managed to fuck up your power and fucked up one of the strongest players' in the game power because "woops". I hate having to assume stupid shit.

Yes i did genuinely fuck up with my power. I even tried to tell you later on what i in fact did so it doesn't fuck up in the end. I was trying to help you with your power. Read what i asked Koshi about his power. I assumed your power works like that. See how many twerks you got even when you were considered almost as an universal town read. What you are suggesting is unreal. Why would i do what you are suggesting, at the start of the game, when all the people have not even posted yet as mafia? What is the point? You know i do not do stupid stuff as scum (at least when i am sober lol), nor do i worship strong players and lick their ass. Especially when there is absolutely zero reason to do so. I have no idea why you are suggesting that.

Also, why would i lie about not being here? I don't do that for the love of god, even when i am scum. Why would i lie about not remembering where i was at that point? Why is that even alignment indicative, what do i gain as mafia by saying "i do not remember where i went"? I would be perfectly capable of giving some excuse where i was if i was in fact here and reading the thread all the time. And again, if i was mafia why would i even bother to come back posting before the lynch? See the last sentence. If you are trying to say i did not care about the lynch then say so, but that's not true either. I came back and i did not expect WoS being here making a lot of posts because he earlier on said he will not be back and not much was happening. Suddenly the thread had 100 or so posts more than the last time. I did not expect that.

We can talk about Pandain tomorrow. I also want to talk about Oats, Vayne and kush.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 31 2013 00:23 GMT
#2285
On October 31 2013 09:19 OOHCHILD wrote:
Thought about it and I am 100 percent in marv being scum. I doubt I'm gonna change my mind because it had become crystal clear to me.

Marv last scum game?

Desert mini mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 31 2013 00:42 GMT
#2289
I don't know i have to look into him more tomorrow. I liked his early pressure on me (while it was wrong), seemed townie. I liked his explanations during the claim time. I havn't payed much attention to him since. Why do you think he's scum?

Also why do you have to make posts that make perfect sense and then make posts that make zero sense? Damn you Pandain, do only one of those so i can tell your alignment.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 31 2013 01:02 GMT
#2304
On October 31 2013 09:53 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 09:48 marvellosity wrote:
Given you were interested in Wave's reads as he died, Pandain, it's curious that you didn't pick that up or mention that yet

I only skimmed but yeah his reads aren't aligning with mine. I doubt he was all right. He was curious about Rayn which still puts a thought in my mind he's scum, but without that I would say he's town. I just know he's not scum.

Yeah he does defend Seuss. Hmm


Are you one of these guys? From what i read in WoS' last post where he talks about me he was leaning town on me. Not that it matters anything but i hate when people bring up invalid arguments for why someone is scum. It frustrates me because it doesn't mean they are scum, as apparently townies do that too, which can be proven from Thug life obs QT and the Championship game.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 31 2013 01:03 GMT
#2306
That's why i love Koshi. Koshi does not do that shit.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 31 2013 01:18 GMT
#2326
On October 31 2013 10:05 marvellosity wrote:
rayn, what are your tells on Vayne? You seem to be ok at reading him (I swear I remember you talking about this somewhere). I know you don't like his big post but I don't mind it that much at all. He seems to be posting ok and I can't tell what agenda he's really pushing if he's mafia.

I agree. I can't say much of his D1 before his smurfiness was blown because he was obviously trying to post differently than he usually does and my strength in reading him is not what he posts but how he posts. After that i thought he was town until his reads post. I don't even care about his other reads at this point but i do care about his reads on me, PAndain and Koshi (as he is supposed to be good at reading us). I will elaborate on that in a bit.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 31 2013 01:19 GMT
#2327
I mean i agree his overall posting is fine and good and nothing stands out to me, but the reads oh my..
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 31 2013 01:34 GMT
#2336
marv, to elaborate on Candyvayne's bad reads:

Rayn - Not as aggressive as you would like him to be, although I think it's more of him changing his playstyle then anything. He played like this more in Thug Life and Noire and he was town and scum respectively so it's a bit of a null tell there....

What is this even doing here? Like why would you add a null-tell in your read on someone?
...On the other hand, he isn't actually pushing anything and has been absent for large chunks of the game where I would expect him to otherwise be. The fact that nobody really has any strong opinions in the game about him yet lead me to believe he is most likely the scum from this list.

The first thing is not true - i am pushing people i think are scum. I just don't do it in Titanic-way, because i don't do it any more. If i remember correctly i talked about it after Thug life and Vayne was in that game.
The second thing is not true - I have not "been absent for large chunks of the game where I would expect him to otherwise be". Prove it then if this is true. When and where have i been absent?
The last thing - Seriously? I am probably one of the hardest people to read in this game and people not having a read on me (which is btw not even true) makes me scum? roflskates.

Pandain - What exactly has he done this game? Honestly nothing sticks out in my mind.
...
Koshi - Similar to pandain, I honestly can't think of what he has done this game. Nuked Pandain though so if im going with my list he isn't scum unless he is a fucking genius.

These are people who Vayne is good in reading at. Look what he has to say after a near complete cycle? That's all?
From Vayne, the guy who in Hogwarts (whore they have both flipped) had a more reasoned read on Pandain from his first post and who in Thug life could instantly tell Pandain was scum when Noir ended. Also he should imo consider Koshi town from the posts i consider him town for, or explain why not.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 31 2013 01:39 GMT
#2338
On October 31 2013 10:35 OOHCHILD wrote:
yup rayne and vaynecandy are both town. welcome to my circle of trust.

I cannot understand how you can conclude that from my last post in case that's what you are referring to?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 31 2013 09:45 GMT
#2358
On October 31 2013 18:41 Koshi wrote:
marv are you good with entrance posts?

I am really good. Remember Thug life and WoS.
You can ask me and do the opposite of what i say.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 31 2013 09:48 GMT
#2359
On October 31 2013 18:37 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 11:48 Oatsmaster wrote:
So who do I think is scum currently?
I really dont know.
There are like 6 people who are null, SnB/Pandain?OOHCHILD/Rayn/Koshi/Sent.
I wish everyone would post more.

People are posting plenty, you need to develop your suspicions more on your own without waiting for other people to do things for you. There's a tonne of content for all those players for you to work with.

Sounds like Ego mini mafia Oats to me.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 31 2013 09:51 GMT
#2362
Could scum have killed WoS because he would figure out Seuss?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 31 2013 09:53 GMT
#2365
On October 31 2013 18:51 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 18:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 31 2013 18:37 marvellosity wrote:
On October 31 2013 11:48 Oatsmaster wrote:
So who do I think is scum currently?
I really dont know.
There are like 6 people who are null, SnB/Pandain?OOHCHILD/Rayn/Koshi/Sent.
I wish everyone would post more.

People are posting plenty, you need to develop your suspicions more on your own without waiting for other people to do things for you. There's a tonne of content for all those players for you to work with.

Sounds like Ego mini mafia Oats to me.

I had precisely the same thought, and I was hoping you'd come up with this without me prompting you for it.

dude i just came here. what does it matter if it's me or you who notices it first? I have already said i will nuke him if he doesn't do shit, do you think we are both scum?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 31 2013 09:56 GMT
#2369
On October 31 2013 18:52 Koshi wrote:
I think scum might have had 2 KP this night.

???
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 31 2013 09:57 GMT
#2372
On October 31 2013 18:54 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 18:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 31 2013 18:51 marvellosity wrote:
On October 31 2013 18:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 31 2013 18:37 marvellosity wrote:
On October 31 2013 11:48 Oatsmaster wrote:
So who do I think is scum currently?
I really dont know.
There are like 6 people who are null, SnB/Pandain?OOHCHILD/Rayn/Koshi/Sent.
I wish everyone would post more.

People are posting plenty, you need to develop your suspicions more on your own without waiting for other people to do things for you. There's a tonne of content for all those players for you to work with.

Sounds like Ego mini mafia Oats to me.

I had precisely the same thought, and I was hoping you'd come up with this without me prompting you for it.

dude i just came here. what does it matter if it's me or you who notices it first? I have already said i will nuke him if he doesn't do shit, do you think we are both scum?

No, you got the tone of my post all wrong.

I was going to ask you "Does it remind you of Ego?" but decided not to say it, and then you mentioned it yourself.

I didn't mean you should have said it before I commented on Oats' post at all. Calm your horses.

sorry i am quite tired as i pulled an all nighter, i thought you were accusing me of not coming up with it first for some reason.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 31 2013 10:01 GMT
#2374
Didn't Seuss say me and marv were his townreads, correct?
Did you ## Oats marv? I didn't.
Did you Update Koshi? I did.
Seuss did the opposite, that is quite weird.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 31 2013 10:03 GMT
#2375
Okay to be fair he explains why he upped Oats and marv but not Koshi.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 31 2013 10:14 GMT
#2378
On October 31 2013 03:03 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 03:00 marvellosity wrote:
I'm still stuck on rayn abandoning WoS to lynch Clarity. It's so unlike townrayn not to be all guns blazing for that lynch.

rayn doesn't mind shouting at me repeatedly if he thinks I should be lynching his target.

On one hand I think Rayn has actively been trying not to be as shout-y as he has been. Thug life is a good example I think.

On the other...I really AM surprised I was able to actually convince HIM of all people at the end of D1. If there's somebody who latches on against all odds, it's him.

About Rayn's power and the circumstances surrounding it---do you agree it is a townRayn-like thing to try and make plays?

I am still very puzzled about this post being a "scumread" on me? Especially when i cleared the middle part with WoS....
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