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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 30 2013 18:46 GMT
#2070
On October 31 2013 03:42 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 03:38 marvellosity wrote:
On October 31 2013 03:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 31 2013 03:33 marvellosity wrote:
On October 31 2013 03:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 31 2013 03:30 marvellosity wrote:
On October 31 2013 03:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 31 2013 03:26 Promethelax wrote:
Vayne, did you just make semi arbitrary lists and POE each one individually? I seriously can't agree with any of your conclusions based on the way you went about getting them.

Can you go back and read players based on their play and not on gaming the set up. kthx.

tbh that's what Vayne does.
But his reads on PAndain, Koshi and me are so bad. god..

Don't really agree tbh.

Which do you not agree with?

i could see Pandain as mafia. i can see you as mafia and what he said about you wasn't incorrect either. the koshi stuff was weakish in that it was too reliant on Pandain, but meh.

That, marv, is bullshit about me. Just because you have happened to play with me only in games where i have been scum lately does not make what Vayne say true. He says what you guys want to hear. That's not a read.

Listen to Koshi, he actually knows what he is talking about.

yeah, koshi said you would be mad that i wanted to lynch clarity over WoS and you were totally fine about it.

that's me listening to koshi.

Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 03:35 WaveofShadow wrote:
VA - your read on kush(?) assumes that he wouldn't be aggressive like that and risk being shot in the face. If he is kush i highly doubt he'd put much thought into 'oh shit it's closed setup there could be vigis abound and I will die.'

Rayn - Your reasoning on me isn't amazing because the only reason I got back an hour before deadline is because my lab ended early. No other reason than that---if it hadn't then I would have been dead and flipped blue. It nothing to do with my attitude
.


You actually made posts that made sense. How the fuck is that not a reason to not lynch you?
It's irrelevant why you got back. Are you saying i am scum because your posts were bad and i should have lynched you? What the fuck is that kinda logic?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 30 2013 18:49 GMT
#2073
On October 31 2013 03:47 Koshi wrote:
btw rayn. You are pretty low on figuring out posts as well. Unless you are trying to read people without interacting with them. Look at you and Oats, there is nothing between you 2.

I thought Oats was town from his posts, especially from what he said about Pandain. It's useless to interact with Oats if i think he is town because it doesn't get me anywhere. I only interact with Oats when i do not think he is town or when i need him to do what i say. Otherwise it's useless.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 30 2013 18:50 GMT
#2074
On October 31 2013 03:49 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 03:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 31 2013 03:42 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 31 2013 03:38 marvellosity wrote:
On October 31 2013 03:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 31 2013 03:33 marvellosity wrote:
On October 31 2013 03:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 31 2013 03:30 marvellosity wrote:
On October 31 2013 03:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 31 2013 03:26 Promethelax wrote:
Vayne, did you just make semi arbitrary lists and POE each one individually? I seriously can't agree with any of your conclusions based on the way you went about getting them.

Can you go back and read players based on their play and not on gaming the set up. kthx.

tbh that's what Vayne does.
But his reads on PAndain, Koshi and me are so bad. god..

Don't really agree tbh.

Which do you not agree with?

i could see Pandain as mafia. i can see you as mafia and what he said about you wasn't incorrect either. the koshi stuff was weakish in that it was too reliant on Pandain, but meh.

That, marv, is bullshit about me. Just because you have happened to play with me only in games where i have been scum lately does not make what Vayne say true. He says what you guys want to hear. That's not a read.

Listen to Koshi, he actually knows what he is talking about.

yeah, koshi said you would be mad that i wanted to lynch clarity over WoS and you were totally fine about it.

that's me listening to koshi.

On October 31 2013 03:35 WaveofShadow wrote:
VA - your read on kush(?) assumes that he wouldn't be aggressive like that and risk being shot in the face. If he is kush i highly doubt he'd put much thought into 'oh shit it's closed setup there could be vigis abound and I will die.'

Rayn - Your reasoning on me isn't amazing because the only reason I got back an hour before deadline is because my lab ended early. No other reason than that---if it hadn't then I would have been dead and flipped blue. It nothing to do with my attitude
.


You actually made posts that made sense. How the fuck is that not a reason to not lynch you?
It's irrelevant why you got back. Are you saying i am scum because your posts were bad and i should have lynched you? What the fuck is that kinda logic?

I'm not saying you are scum, but I am inquiring as to this post:
Show nested quote +
Because Wave got back before the deadline and didn't roll over and die and made good posts. Clarity fucked off when people said he is town.


Would you have changed your mind if I didn't get back the second time? Because as far as I know your vote was still on me before that second period an hour before deadline, so clearly my 'good posts' before that point weren't enough, meaning that it was probably the 'not fucking off' component you took into account--->which was only luck timing-wise on my part.

Can you explain?

First time you martyred. Second time you actually gave us something. Yes, if you didn't come back the second time i would have lynched you.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 30 2013 18:55 GMT
#2078
On October 31 2013 03:53 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 03:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 31 2013 03:49 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 31 2013 03:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 31 2013 03:42 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 31 2013 03:38 marvellosity wrote:
On October 31 2013 03:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 31 2013 03:33 marvellosity wrote:
On October 31 2013 03:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 31 2013 03:30 marvellosity wrote:
[quote]
Don't really agree tbh.

Which do you not agree with?

i could see Pandain as mafia. i can see you as mafia and what he said about you wasn't incorrect either. the koshi stuff was weakish in that it was too reliant on Pandain, but meh.

That, marv, is bullshit about me. Just because you have happened to play with me only in games where i have been scum lately does not make what Vayne say true. He says what you guys want to hear. That's not a read.

Listen to Koshi, he actually knows what he is talking about.

yeah, koshi said you would be mad that i wanted to lynch clarity over WoS and you were totally fine about it.

that's me listening to koshi.

On October 31 2013 03:35 WaveofShadow wrote:
VA - your read on kush(?) assumes that he wouldn't be aggressive like that and risk being shot in the face. If he is kush i highly doubt he'd put much thought into 'oh shit it's closed setup there could be vigis abound and I will die.'

Rayn - Your reasoning on me isn't amazing because the only reason I got back an hour before deadline is because my lab ended early. No other reason than that---if it hadn't then I would have been dead and flipped blue. It nothing to do with my attitude
.


You actually made posts that made sense. How the fuck is that not a reason to not lynch you?
It's irrelevant why you got back. Are you saying i am scum because your posts were bad and i should have lynched you? What the fuck is that kinda logic?

I'm not saying you are scum, but I am inquiring as to this post:
Because Wave got back before the deadline and didn't roll over and die and made good posts. Clarity fucked off when people said he is town.


Would you have changed your mind if I didn't get back the second time? Because as far as I know your vote was still on me before that second period an hour before deadline, so clearly my 'good posts' before that point weren't enough, meaning that it was probably the 'not fucking off' component you took into account--->which was only luck timing-wise on my part.

Can you explain?

First time you martyred. Second time you actually gave us something. Yes, if you didn't come back the second time i would have lynched you.

It wasn't martyring, for the 1000th time. I didn't have a proper scumread and didn't want to throw my vote on anybody at random to avoid getting modkilled.
I completely disagree. I feel I attempted to provide just as much the first time I got back as the second; it seems the second time people were just more willing to listen and not all up in a frenzy for whatever reason. Maybe me included I suppose.

You didn't say anything uselful. Then you voted for yourself. When people called you out of it you rng'd SnB. Then you said you're off. That's what i saw.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 30 2013 18:59 GMT
#2083
God marv. I was not here... I posted when i got here and read the thread from where i left when i left the last time. Then there was like 5min left, not much time to make big posts.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 30 2013 19:01 GMT
#2084
On October 31 2013 03:59 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 03:55 marvellosity wrote:
On October 31 2013 03:53 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 31 2013 03:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 31 2013 03:49 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 31 2013 03:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 31 2013 03:42 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 31 2013 03:38 marvellosity wrote:
On October 31 2013 03:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 31 2013 03:33 marvellosity wrote:
[quote]
i could see Pandain as mafia. i can see you as mafia and what he said about you wasn't incorrect either. the koshi stuff was weakish in that it was too reliant on Pandain, but meh.

That, marv, is bullshit about me. Just because you have happened to play with me only in games where i have been scum lately does not make what Vayne say true. He says what you guys want to hear. That's not a read.

Listen to Koshi, he actually knows what he is talking about.

yeah, koshi said you would be mad that i wanted to lynch clarity over WoS and you were totally fine about it.

that's me listening to koshi.

On October 31 2013 03:35 WaveofShadow wrote:
VA - your read on kush(?) assumes that he wouldn't be aggressive like that and risk being shot in the face. If he is kush i highly doubt he'd put much thought into 'oh shit it's closed setup there could be vigis abound and I will die.'

Rayn - Your reasoning on me isn't amazing because the only reason I got back an hour before deadline is because my lab ended early. No other reason than that---if it hadn't then I would have been dead and flipped blue. It nothing to do with my attitude
.


You actually made posts that made sense. How the fuck is that not a reason to not lynch you?
It's irrelevant why you got back. Are you saying i am scum because your posts were bad and i should have lynched you? What the fuck is that kinda logic?

I'm not saying you are scum, but I am inquiring as to this post:
Because Wave got back before the deadline and didn't roll over and die and made good posts. Clarity fucked off when people said he is town.


Would you have changed your mind if I didn't get back the second time? Because as far as I know your vote was still on me before that second period an hour before deadline, so clearly my 'good posts' before that point weren't enough, meaning that it was probably the 'not fucking off' component you took into account--->which was only luck timing-wise on my part.

Can you explain?

First time you martyred. Second time you actually gave us something. Yes, if you didn't come back the second time i would have lynched you.

It wasn't martyring, for the 1000th time. I didn't have a proper scumread and didn't want to throw my vote on anybody at random to avoid getting modkilled.
I completely disagree. I feel I attempted to provide just as much the first time I got back as the second; it seems the second time people were just more willing to listen and not all up in a frenzy for whatever reason. Maybe me included I suppose.

In fairness I agree the 2nd time was better than your 1st time which was pretty lame.


I'd like to add my voice to this. WoS before an hour before the deadline was a useless asshole.

Rayn, you just bowed out of explaining why you weren't unhappy about the clarity lynch. Explain it. And explain why you wouldn't explain it.

I don't understand the question?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 30 2013 19:04 GMT
#2086
On October 31 2013 04:02 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 03:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 31 2013 03:38 marvellosity wrote:
On October 31 2013 03:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 31 2013 03:33 marvellosity wrote:
On October 31 2013 03:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 31 2013 03:30 marvellosity wrote:
On October 31 2013 03:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 31 2013 03:26 Promethelax wrote:
Vayne, did you just make semi arbitrary lists and POE each one individually? I seriously can't agree with any of your conclusions based on the way you went about getting them.

Can you go back and read players based on their play and not on gaming the set up. kthx.

tbh that's what Vayne does.
But his reads on PAndain, Koshi and me are so bad. god..

Don't really agree tbh.

Which do you not agree with?

i could see Pandain as mafia. i can see you as mafia and what he said about you wasn't incorrect either. the koshi stuff was weakish in that it was too reliant on Pandain, but meh.

That, marv, is bullshit about me. Just because you have happened to play with me only in games where i have been scum lately does not make what Vayne say true. He says what you guys want to hear. That's not a read.

Listen to Koshi, he actually knows what he is talking about.

yeah, koshi said you would be mad that i wanted to lynch clarity over WoS and you were totally fine about it.

that's me listening to koshi.

Okay this is really annoying.. i will now shut up.

you said you'd shut up instead of explaining yourself

That's about listening to Koshi, not about Clarity in any way.
I already said why i did switch my vote and was okay with Clarity lynch-.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 30 2013 19:06 GMT
#2087
Why the fuck are you doing this guys? Can we find scum instead?
WoS and Clarity were useless martyrs when i left. WoS came back and made better posts and actually wanted to play this game, Clarity didn't but skated by his "dick move town analysis" reads. When i came back i noticed this. If it's scummy from me sue me. But it's useless to talk about this because that's what i did and why i did it.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 30 2013 19:14 GMT
#2091
Btw i am nuking Oats on D2.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 30 2013 19:17 GMT
#2094
On October 31 2013 04:15 Promethelax wrote:
rayn: why? Also, why announce in thre- oh.

I have my reasons, for both of the questions.

I am also really pissed off at myself for fucking up with my role in this game.. twice.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 30 2013 19:25 GMT
#2097
His retarded nuke on Koshi who is obviously town. The reasoning is so really bad it's too bad even for town!Oats.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 30 2013 19:27 GMT
#2099
kush can actually be scum.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 30 2013 19:38 GMT
#2107
On October 31 2013 04:28 OOHCHILD wrote:
WoS strikes me as someone who is pretty careful and calculating and his nuke just looked so fucking weird.
He couldn't stfu about how bad it was to use nukes, then he used one...

Rayne is sitting in the thread jumping on the easiest shit possible. Very very very very very unlike his townplay this game. What happened to your spam Rayne?

HotCottonCandy looks like a shit sundae.

im out until i finish this exam later tongiht.

Spam went away.
What do you suggest i do? Jump all over marv like you did on D1 with retarded shit you know is not true in the first place. Or if you did believe that i have no idea what to tell you. If people look town to me they do look town to me, if they look scummy they do look scummy. Regardless of who they are. And my scum meta btw is to attack strong players in case you have not noticed. Go look at WHWC and who i accused on D1. Go look at Noir who i accused and lynched on D4. Go look at Catch 22 and who i accused on D1-N1. Go look at GoT and what i did the whole game. I don't let town play like they want to, so unless you think marv/Prome or both are scum with me you are full of shit with your argument.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 30 2013 19:44 GMT
#2111
On October 31 2013 04:40 OOHCHILD wrote:
attacking strong players is not a meta

yes it is and you are wrong.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 30 2013 19:45 GMT
#2112
notice the double disagreement. that's how wrong you are.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 30 2013 19:50 GMT
#2116
On October 31 2013 04:46 OOHCHILD wrote:
if something is easy to fix it's not a meta. just like busing my scum team isn't a true meta. the true meta behind it would be an inability to make decent cases on people I know are town.

You really do not understand what i am saying. It's okay though, you don't need to know what i do as scum and what i don't.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 30 2013 19:52 GMT
#2119
On October 31 2013 04:50 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 04:48 Promethelax wrote:
I'm so hostile all the time.

I don't really like that you have done dick all game besides play with your role and go after kush. Others seem to have tried to find scum. Do you have any reads besides OOH?


Wouldn't mind getting rid of WaveofShadow as well.

Have you noticed your top scumread insta-nuked your other scumread on N1 start?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 30 2013 19:53 GMT
#2121
And that too what kush said.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 30 2013 19:58 GMT
#2126
On October 31 2013 04:54 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 04:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
notice the double disagreement. that's how wrong you are.

lol isn't marv's signature about how kush disagrees with himself haha

kush agrees with himself here.
i double disagree with him.
I might have a power that makes my double disagreement into kush disagreeing ^_^
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 30 2013 19:59 GMT
#2129
On October 31 2013 04:57 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 04:54 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 31 2013 04:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
notice the double disagreement. that's how wrong you are.

lol isn't marv's signature about how kush disagrees with himself haha

in all fairness that came from a smurf game where kush was arguing with his other head.

Was kush hydraing there?
My best experience with hydras is when i asked geript if he thinks WoS is scum in Bluelightz game when they were hydraing. :D
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