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On October 31 2013 03:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2013 03:53 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 31 2013 03:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 31 2013 03:49 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 31 2013 03:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 31 2013 03:42 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 31 2013 03:38 marvellosity wrote:On October 31 2013 03:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 31 2013 03:33 marvellosity wrote:On October 31 2013 03:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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Which do you not agree with? i could see Pandain as mafia. i can see you as mafia and what he said about you wasn't incorrect either. the koshi stuff was weakish in that it was too reliant on Pandain, but meh. That, marv, is bullshit about me. Just because you have happened to play with me only in games where i have been scum lately does not make what Vayne say true. He says what you guys want to hear. That's not a read. Listen to Koshi, he actually knows what he is talking about. yeah, koshi said you would be mad that i wanted to lynch clarity over WoS and you were totally fine about it. that's me listening to koshi. On October 31 2013 03:35 WaveofShadow wrote:
VA - your read on kush(?) assumes that he wouldn't be aggressive like that and risk being shot in the face. If he is kush i highly doubt he'd put much thought into 'oh shit it's closed setup there could be vigis abound and I will die.'
Rayn - Your reasoning on me isn't amazing because the only reason I got back an hour before deadline is because my lab ended early. No other reason than that---if it hadn't then I would have been dead and flipped blue. It nothing to do with my attitude. You actually made posts that made sense. How the fuck is that not a reason to not lynch you? It's irrelevant why you got back. Are you saying i am scum because your posts were bad and i should have lynched you? What the fuck is that kinda logic? I'm not saying you are scum, but I am inquiring as to this post: Because Wave got back before the deadline and didn't roll over and die and made good posts. Clarity fucked off when people said he is town. Would you have changed your mind if I didn't get back the second time? Because as far as I know your vote was still on me before that second period an hour before deadline, so clearly my 'good posts' before that point weren't enough, meaning that it was probably the 'not fucking off' component you took into account--->which was only luck timing-wise on my part. Can you explain? First time you martyred. Second time you actually gave us something. Yes, if you didn't come back the second time i would have lynched you. It wasn't martyring, for the 1000th time. I didn't have a proper scumread and didn't want to throw my vote on anybody at random to avoid getting modkilled. I completely disagree. I feel I attempted to provide just as much the first time I got back as the second; it seems the second time people were just more willing to listen and not all up in a frenzy for whatever reason. Maybe me included I suppose. You didn't say anything uselful. Then you voted for yourself. When people called you out of it you rng'd SnB. Then you said you're off. That's what i saw.
Alright, I guess I have to grant you guys that in terms of what you saw, but my feelings at the time were that I was doing everything in my power in the very short period of time that I had which included attempting to eat lunch while defending myself, trying to come up with some half-assed scumread without being able to properly filter dive, and respond to people. I had already resigned to my death the second time around because I hadn't even expected to be able to come back so I was much calmer---i think that's pretty obvious by the tone of my posts.
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don't ignore the post i just made / let it get lost, i think it's important
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God marv. I was not here... I posted when i got here and read the thread from where i left when i left the last time. Then there was like 5min left, not much time to make big posts.
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On October 31 2013 03:59 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2013 03:55 marvellosity wrote:On October 31 2013 03:53 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 31 2013 03:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 31 2013 03:49 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 31 2013 03:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 31 2013 03:42 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 31 2013 03:38 marvellosity wrote:On October 31 2013 03:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 31 2013 03:33 marvellosity wrote:
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i could see Pandain as mafia. i can see you as mafia and what he said about you wasn't incorrect either. the koshi stuff was weakish in that it was too reliant on Pandain, but meh. That, marv, is bullshit about me. Just because you have happened to play with me only in games where i have been scum lately does not make what Vayne say true. He says what you guys want to hear. That's not a read. Listen to Koshi, he actually knows what he is talking about. yeah, koshi said you would be mad that i wanted to lynch clarity over WoS and you were totally fine about it. that's me listening to koshi. On October 31 2013 03:35 WaveofShadow wrote:
VA - your read on kush(?) assumes that he wouldn't be aggressive like that and risk being shot in the face. If he is kush i highly doubt he'd put much thought into 'oh shit it's closed setup there could be vigis abound and I will die.'
Rayn - Your reasoning on me isn't amazing because the only reason I got back an hour before deadline is because my lab ended early. No other reason than that---if it hadn't then I would have been dead and flipped blue. It nothing to do with my attitude. You actually made posts that made sense. How the fuck is that not a reason to not lynch you? It's irrelevant why you got back. Are you saying i am scum because your posts were bad and i should have lynched you? What the fuck is that kinda logic? I'm not saying you are scum, but I am inquiring as to this post: Because Wave got back before the deadline and didn't roll over and die and made good posts. Clarity fucked off when people said he is town. Would you have changed your mind if I didn't get back the second time? Because as far as I know your vote was still on me before that second period an hour before deadline, so clearly my 'good posts' before that point weren't enough, meaning that it was probably the 'not fucking off' component you took into account--->which was only luck timing-wise on my part. Can you explain? First time you martyred. Second time you actually gave us something. Yes, if you didn't come back the second time i would have lynched you. It wasn't martyring, for the 1000th time. I didn't have a proper scumread and didn't want to throw my vote on anybody at random to avoid getting modkilled. I completely disagree. I feel I attempted to provide just as much the first time I got back as the second; it seems the second time people were just more willing to listen and not all up in a frenzy for whatever reason. Maybe me included I suppose. In fairness I agree the 2nd time was better than your 1st time which was pretty lame. I'd like to add my voice to this. WoS before an hour before the deadline was a useless asshole. Rayn, you just bowed out of explaining why you weren't unhappy about the clarity lynch. Explain it. And explain why you wouldn't explain it.
I don't understand the question?
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On October 31 2013 03:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2013 03:38 marvellosity wrote:On October 31 2013 03:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 31 2013 03:33 marvellosity wrote:On October 31 2013 03:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 31 2013 03:30 marvellosity wrote:On October 31 2013 03:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 31 2013 03:26 Promethelax wrote:
Vayne, did you just make semi arbitrary lists and POE each one individually? I seriously can't agree with any of your conclusions based on the way you went about getting them.
Can you go back and read players based on their play and not on gaming the set up. kthx. tbh that's what Vayne does. But his reads on PAndain, Koshi and me are so bad. god.. Don't really agree tbh. Which do you not agree with? i could see Pandain as mafia. i can see you as mafia and what he said about you wasn't incorrect either. the koshi stuff was weakish in that it was too reliant on Pandain, but meh. That, marv, is bullshit about me. Just because you have happened to play with me only in games where i have been scum lately does not make what Vayne say true. He says what you guys want to hear. That's not a read. Listen to Koshi, he actually knows what he is talking about. yeah, koshi said you would be mad that i wanted to lynch clarity over WoS and you were totally fine about it. that's me listening to koshi. Okay this is really annoying.. i will now shut up.
you said you'd shut up instead of explaining yourself
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On October 31 2013 04:02 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2013 03:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 31 2013 03:38 marvellosity wrote:On October 31 2013 03:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 31 2013 03:33 marvellosity wrote:On October 31 2013 03:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 31 2013 03:30 marvellosity wrote:On October 31 2013 03:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 31 2013 03:26 Promethelax wrote:
Vayne, did you just make semi arbitrary lists and POE each one individually? I seriously can't agree with any of your conclusions based on the way you went about getting them.
Can you go back and read players based on their play and not on gaming the set up. kthx. tbh that's what Vayne does. But his reads on PAndain, Koshi and me are so bad. god.. Don't really agree tbh. Which do you not agree with? i could see Pandain as mafia. i can see you as mafia and what he said about you wasn't incorrect either. the koshi stuff was weakish in that it was too reliant on Pandain, but meh. That, marv, is bullshit about me. Just because you have happened to play with me only in games where i have been scum lately does not make what Vayne say true. He says what you guys want to hear. That's not a read. Listen to Koshi, he actually knows what he is talking about. yeah, koshi said you would be mad that i wanted to lynch clarity over WoS and you were totally fine about it. that's me listening to koshi. Okay this is really annoying.. i will now shut up. you said you'd shut up instead of explaining yourself
That's about listening to Koshi, not about Clarity in any way.
I already said why i did switch my vote and was okay with Clarity lynch-.
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Why the fuck are you doing this guys? Can we find scum instead?
WoS and Clarity were useless martyrs when i left. WoS came back and made better posts and actually wanted to play this game, Clarity didn't but skated by his "dick move town analysis" reads. When i came back i noticed this. If it's scummy from me sue me. But it's useless to talk about this because that's what i did and why i did it.
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On October 31 2013 04:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why the fuck are you doing this guys? Can we find scum instead?
WoS and Clarity were useless martyrs when i left. WoS came back and made better posts and actually wanted to play this game, Clarity didn't but skated by his "dick move town analysis" reads. When i came back i noticed this. If it's scummy from me sue me. But it's useless to talk about this because that's what i did and why i did it.
+ Show Spoiler +No, fuck that.
I know this isn't relevant to discussion right now but I want to make this very clear.
I WAS NOT MARTYRING AND HAD EVERY INTENTION TO FUCKING PLAY THE GAME AND DID FROM THE VERY BEGINNING.
It really pisses me off that that's what people constantly assume. It means people didn't read and made assumptions based on my activity before that last hour.
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Ugh, I'll think more about rayn later
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We can talk about it in post game but your posts before last hour indicated that you were, in fact, a useless martyr.
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Btw i am nuking Oats on D2.
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No more martyr semantics debates please
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rayn: why? Also, why announce in thre- oh.
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On October 31 2013 04:15 Promethelax wrote:
rayn: why? Also, why announce in thre- oh.
I have my reasons, for both of the questions.
I am also really pissed off at myself for fucking up with my role in this game.. twice.
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I'd like an answer for the first one, like for reals. The second is a bit of a joke as there are two or three good reasons for it.
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Wave seems town cuz why use a third nuke on SnB. For mafia of he's town, why draw suspicion on yourself if any of our nukes are real. And he wouldn't use a nuke on scum
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His retarded nuke on Koshi who is obviously town. The reasoning is so really bad it's too bad even for town!Oats.
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cant stay but wtf vayne
OOHCHILD - Now that I know it's kush this doesnt look like his recent townplay at all. He hasn't made any cases or deduced anything worth reading like has recently been the case, he has only been throwing suspicion on random people and then nuking completely different targets. His play is erratic and doesn't make sense. With that said, I don't think he would play this reckless as scum because in an experimental game it's just asking to get shot in the face in some way.
Why so wishy washy?
Also I have never played with even a shred of decency on d1 EVER.
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kush can actually be scum.
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Also my nuke would have evaporated by now. Do other nukes not have time limits?
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