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I won't research about this in detail right now because it only takes away time I could use reading the thread but that's what stood out the most to me. No really strong reads though. | ||
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On October 18 2013 06:48 StorrZerg wrote: Also can people stop with the outside bull? making an excues for not posting, or being busy, sleepy what ever. if your to busy get replaced talk to the mod, don't complain about it. if your tired then sleep and get back to the game when your fresh. seriously guys... We all have lives outside of tl mafia. so just stop. That's exactly what I will be doing but people asked me at least in the qt. | ||
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Palmar if you are town please don't limit yourself to this SAM thing - yeah I get that you have to make this a primary topic... I am not in the position to critisize someone for not having the time to read the thread but if you do please give us some other thoughts. I did not read many of your games but I watched the video of hero mafia and I am sure you have some useful things to share if you read the thread. I really don't see the point in limiting yourself to Mocsta discussion... | ||
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Will be available from now until deadline so feel free to ask questions. | ||
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On October 18 2013 22:03 syllogism wrote: Lynching justanothertownie is a decent alternative. Zero useful content and him complaining about Palmar after he had finished catching up is quite suspicious. He didn't even suggest that Palmar is mafia for his focus on Mocsta. In Noir he was, as town, chatty and active. He promised for more content before the deadline so lets see how that works out. I was chatting and active because I had a shitload of time. I did hardly have any time this game. This will change for the weekend - if I am still not talkative by then you can lynch me for that. Lynching me right now is a bad idea. Also my play generally sucks Day1 btw. On October 19 2013 02:02 LastArgument wrote: I will be phoneposting at best for the next couple of hours, I'm hoping to be back at a computer before deadline. I don't like broken promises. I didn't break the promise. I am here and will respond if you want to talk until deadline and I will be posting some reads soon. I just thought I would be able to get home 1-2 hours earlier. On October 19 2013 03:04 Mocsta wrote: Anyways: I am going to re-read Cephiro now. I'm still keen on a zaragon lynch, but i can understand why no one else is. its quite a personal read. Interestingly, I got the same feeling about JAT - quite different play from Noir - but for slightly different reasons. I didn't give it too much weight, because in Noir JAT was a blue role. But as others are finding him suspicious; I will queue him up with Cephiro and lynch between those 3. Matt is looking better/more-involved currently as well- which is good. As I said. You can't compare my Day1 play to Noir because I simply did not have any time until now. | ||
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On October 19 2013 03:37 Mocsta wrote: Actually my gripe with you is that, even with much less posts than noir- you have been more forthcoming this game. (ironic i know) Further the content is on a different tangent to noir. i feel very strongly about this, even with a quick skim of your filter now. noir felt like you were holding something back.. which i later proved was the case. i think that read ascended above you being a blue role. i.e. i think the mindset would largely hold if you were green this game. short story is: so far im not getting that feeling about you, which makes me have reservations about you. i.e. You need to start contributing more. Your argument is wrong. But I can see your thought process. | ||
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On October 19 2013 04:00 Holyflare wrote: This is NOTHING to do with meta. He posted 1 post at the time, cast suspicion on people that already had suspicion on themselves, he posted a few other names that were not mentioned by anyone else but then never followed up on them. Half of his post was explaining himself Rayn made an excellent point: Here about it. It has everything to do with meta. Did you have a look at Noir? This looks like that. The stuff someone posted about his aperture play looks wildly different. Cephiro stop defending yourself and tell us who should be lynched instead of you. | ||
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Do you think scum would try to save him now? | ||
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It would be pretty bold because they would need to pull a miracle defense and if it fails they would look really really bad. You could argue there should have been someone defending him way earlier though. | ||
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Didn't think about that but it would be possible. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On October 17 2013 07:49 Hopeless1der wrote: (From phone) Re: gracks indifference to the item. I think he is of the opinion that the houses are just a flavor thing and that we have no real way to manipulate the item/contest to benefit town by getting it all for his self. Assuming town>scum in each house the overall effect should be the same, no? Who cares if townie A or townie B gets it? I still think this is weird. As I said before gracks behaviour is perfectly fine in my opinion so that's not the problem but hopeless just jumps in and defends him. He just takes a wild guess at gracks motivation without letting the guy explain it himself. In what way does that make sense as town? On October 17 2013 09:05 Hopeless1der wrote: That's literally the point of the game. Skanj, take this as an opportunity to take a break for a bit. I think you're being overwhelmed right now and youre on tilt. You are not fostering productive discussions. Then there is this. As far as I know you can read people more easily when they get emotional invested so why would you tell him to step back if you are interested in learning about his alignment? On October 17 2013 22:47 Hopeless1der wrote: Toad is talking about Fruity and/or BangBang mafia. marv's comment was fruity iirc, but both of them were smurfs. Weird game, that one. skanj, re your (Case on Yamato post), I have no problem with Yamato's vote. The fact that he has refrained from voting his "FoS's" is more town oriented. He's maintaining a level head while communicating his reads and intentions. Like getting Vayne to man the fuck up and play properly. VA comes in, attempts to namehunt mocsta and trolls Yam a bit before peacing out. I wouldn't stand for that shit if it happened to me, why should anyone have to deal with it? I don't think Yam particularly wants to lynch VA over it, but I think he's willing to go through with it if VA doesn't shape up. He has my full support if this is the case. ##Vote: VayneAuthority This is really really bad. First I think Vayne is known for trolling/being useless as town (especially Day1). This is a useless policy vote and I can't remember seeing a game where Vayne trolled like that as scum. Since that he only came in the thread to switch to Cephiro - the only strong wagon. He basically avoided trying to find scum and instead went on about policies the whole game while actually being in the thread. I realize that this is pretty much it. I really thought I saw some more things I didn't like yesterday but I couldn't find them again today. | ||
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On October 19 2013 04:27 Holyflare wrote: Oh, nvm that was JAT saying about emotions ~_~ You haven't voted yet JAT? Try again. | ||
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On October 19 2013 04:29 Mocsta wrote: So thats some sort of post from yesterday or whatever? And now you dont interpret the quotes the same way? I think the same way but I don't think thats enough to lynch him (I wrote this while reading his filter again today). As I said I had the feeling there would be more stuff like this in his filter. | ||
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On October 19 2013 04:30 Holyflare wrote: "Then there is this. As far as I know you can read people more easily when they get emotional invested so why would you tell him to step back if you are interested in learning about his alignment?" Those are your words and you haven't voted. Ceph has been emotionally invested in his past few posts. What is your take on him? What do you even mean try again?? I have voted - that's why I said try again. My take on Cephiro is that he is a good lynch that's why my vote is on him. | ||
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On October 19 2013 04:36 justanothertownie wrote: I have voted - that's why I said try again. My take on Cephiro is that he is a good lynch that's why my vote is on him. This list looks real though....hm. | ||
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On October 19 2013 04:47 Grackaroni wrote: Palmar is prob mod killed. I might be up to last minute vote JAT. I don't like that he has a lot of posts that just advise palmar/Cephiro to contribute more. A lot of posts? Are you drunk? | ||
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##Unvote ##Vote: Palmar | ||
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KP = kill?! | ||
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On October 19 2013 05:26 supersoft wrote: oh yes of course. your afk for 2 days and now you delirk to tell me this? are you kidding me? Seriously! go back in your scumcave Try reading the thread. This is in no way a delurk. | ||
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On October 19 2013 07:04 syllogism wrote: Sn0_man isn't a good vig target tonight. Can we calm down and not do anything hasty? Who is then? | ||
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On October 19 2013 07:36 Hopeless1der wrote: a good vig shot is anyone you feel has a good chance to not play the game. unless you think you can point your wand at scum that is. You so wise... | ||
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On October 19 2013 07:27 supersoft wrote: No he seems not. Stutters is no vigshot. Why? | ||
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On October 19 2013 07:16 syllogism wrote: LoneMeow, for instance I suggest you look at his filter from Noir (don't worry it's short). | ||
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On October 19 2013 07:45 supersoft wrote: Just trust me on this one. Why would I. | ||
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On October 19 2013 07:45 LastArgument wrote: It's not the same, you can think about it a little. Does he looks more confident to you or what are you hinting at? | ||
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On October 19 2013 07:50 LastArgument wrote: He was wracked with indecision there, there seems to be little of that here. A simple yes would have been enough. Hm, I see your point. | ||
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On October 19 2013 07:54 supersoft wrote: Because I have information you dont have. At least you claim to do so. | ||
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I voted for Palmar over Mattchew because my townreads voted him (I don't have that many of them) and he was being useless. Mocstas voting is strange though. | ||
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On October 20 2013 01:33 raynpelikonoshi wrote: No JAT, don't fucking bullshit me. There were 4 votes within 3 minutes going on Mattchew with a case of HolyFlare to fuel that wagon. There were at that time 5 votes on Palmar. So there was reason to believe Mattchew wagon was going to happen because Palmar wagon lost steam. But then 2 people who voted Mattchew went 180 FOR NO FUCKING REASON AT ALL 3 minutes after they voted Mattchew. Do not spew bullshit JAT. Don't do it. ^ What is wrong with what I say? Tell me? Why was Mattchew not happening except for the reason that 2 people (Mocsta and certainly Cephiro) who believed in the Mattchew wagon jsut went 180 and voted for either BH (what wasn't going to happen) or went back to fucking Palmar (who wasn't a scumread of Cephiro) And then there was you who had actual point to vote on Mattchew while you were indecisive but decided to not push the Mattchew wagon at all and then went for Palmar lynch because of strong town reads. Please give me those townreads + reasoning FAST. Who is talking here btw. feels very much like rayn and it is not signed. I count 6 votes on Palmar before there was even a single one on Mattchew. 2 of them came directly after cephiros list. Maybe YOU should stop spewing bullshit, yes? Palmars wagon picked up speed and did not lose steam. Yes, Cephiros voting makes not much sense but he was really trying to not be lynched so I am not sure how rational he was. I probably shouldn't be giving townreads right now but they are both primary targets already anyways. Syllo and LA. | ||
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On October 20 2013 01:41 raynpelikonoshi wrote: btw JAT, you being scum has nothing to do with connection to Mattchew, it is the fact that you had REASONS for Mattchew being scum but didn't act on them when the wagon was happening. I had weak reasons for Mattchew being scum and weak reasons for Palmar being scum (being useless, townreads who know him much better than I do voting him). I decided to vote Palmar. Sue me. | ||
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On October 20 2013 01:51 raynpelikonoshi wrote: One of the 6 was this guy But he went to Mattchew. So Palmar had 5 votes and Mattchew 4. So please JAT. DON'T TWIST MY FACTS. I said it was 5 vs 4. And this only proves more that Mattchew wagon was getting steam. It was 6-0 first and then it went 5-4 within 5 minutes. So JAT? Why so scummy? And everybody knows LA and Syllo are town. Grtz on noticing that bro. Ok, you are right I have to admit. Still doesn't make me scum at all. Mattchew already lost all steam when I voted Palmar. I could have savely voted him if we were both scum. You asked for my townreads - I answered. Now you complain. Great. | ||
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On October 20 2013 01:52 raynpelikonoshi wrote: JAT is scum or being really bad. Dnu. I am going for scum cuz I like his play normally. Hi Koshi. | ||
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On October 20 2013 01:59 raynpelikonoshi wrote: It's the fact that you didn't push Mattchew when he was hot, it was your only read in this game. Why are you not happy to participate? A guy you didn't like was on the chopping block. You wanted off Cephiro. Why not take action into own hands? Why so passive? Why so scummy? It was not my only read in this game. On the chopping block were 2 guys I both didn't like and I decided to go with the one people I trusted wanted to kill. Is this that hard to understand? | ||
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On October 20 2013 02:02 Grackaroni wrote: just to clarify, you were aware that Syllo was confirmed town and put him as your townread anyway or you missed the part where he became confirmed town? Are you talking to me? Syllo wasn't confirmed town before the lynch. | ||
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On October 20 2013 02:06 raynpelikonoshi wrote: Yes, I understand that. And that is why it makes you scum. You aren't doing shit this game, you didn't give 1 reason in 47 hours why Cephiro was scum. You just sheeped thread sentiment. Then when You want to go off Cephiro you have Palmar, somebody you didn't say shit about the entire game, and you have Mattchew which seemingly you had in your vision because you gave 2 reasons why you didn't like him. But what do you do? You wait another 5 mins passivily and then say: "Ok I am voting Palmar because I am just following thread sentiment again' You are doing nothing JAT. Pick it up. I am pretty sure you will be alive day 2. I am more interested in Mattchew, Mocsta and Cephiro anyway. Why are you lying about me? Cephiro: On October 19 2013 04:05 justanothertownie wrote: It has everything to do with meta. Did you have a look at Noir? This looks like that. The stuff someone posted about his aperture play looks wildly different. Cephiro stop defending yourself and tell us who should be lynched instead of you. Palmar: On October 18 2013 08:03 justanothertownie wrote: Caught up. Palmar if you are town please don't limit yourself to this SAM thing - yeah I get that you have to make this a primary topic... I am not in the position to critisize someone for not having the time to read the thread but if you do please give us some other thoughts. I did not read many of your games but I watched the video of hero mafia and I am sure you have some useful things to share if you read the thread. I really don't see the point in limiting yourself to Mocsta discussion... He didn't do shit. I did not like it. Yeah, I probably won't be killed - we agree on that. | ||
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On October 20 2013 02:08 StorrZerg wrote: So i asked for more clarity about names in my QT. concluded with bad things can happen to those who show their name. and that mafia probably have a town name and a mafia name. I assume then its possible that mafia have an ability to find peoples name. Even so, wouldn't there be a limit to what a mafia could do with a name? wouldn't it be better for the SAM and syllo to just claim their name? (more so SAM). Is it wrong of me to assume that a mafia would have no limit on a power that could kill (when you knew the name of a player?) I don't understand this post. Are you against claiming names or not? If not what would we gain from them claiming their names? | ||
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On October 20 2013 02:26 raynpelikonoshi wrote: If that is your House it is either you are Mattchew that is scum. Maybe both. Look. We agree on something! If there is scum in every house - we don't know that. | ||
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On October 20 2013 02:32 raynpelikonoshi wrote: If I look at your filter I thought you were more leaning scum on Hopeless? Is that feeling gone? Why? Is there something in your filter about Storrzerg? My feeling on hopeless changed when I was reading his filter (I have no townread on him but I didn't find enough for a scumread). I stated that. There is nothing about Storrzerg but I don't like the idea he just presented. | ||
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On October 20 2013 02:35 justanothertownie wrote: My feeling on hopeless changed when I was reading his filter (I have no townread on him but I didn't find enough for a scumread). I stated that. There is nothing about Storrzerg but I don't like the idea he just presented. Also Palmar thought he was town. | ||
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On October 20 2013 04:35 I-be-Pro wrote: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/J9PpOAu.png) ET is the guy I'm buddied with or someone in my QT lied. It could be possible that my buddy is mafia, a thought that crossed my mind is that maybe my buddy isn't in the game but that'd be kind of a bitch-move from hosts so I'm pretty sure that's not the case, also the fact that noone is crying or raging about my claim makes it somewhat more likely it's a mafia imo. I'd say ET has the best chance of flipping red. Not sure if my read on superssoft is correct, I'd say that's the most likely to be wrong out of the vets. Mocsta is neutral because I still don't like the SAM claim, his inthread presence is a slight townread which cancels that out. BH is hard because I think he's trolling and lying all the time, maybe it's him being my buddy and he just lied, idk. Ceph green solely because of the notes, otherwise he'd be yellow/orange. I'd put Vayne and rayn as slight townreads if I knew them a little better, which you guys seem to do, so I left them white because it's my first game with them and you seem to be saying they're playing to their mafiameta. I'd put them down as slightly townish without knowing them. Interesting. So yellow means scummy, yes? If so - why is ET the only scumread you are giving reasons for while discussing your townier reads more indepht? | ||
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On October 20 2013 04:44 I-be-Pro wrote: I remember people saying that some would instalynch you if it was one or the other part of you posting from d1, so that's why I left you out as neutral despite having a townread on you. yellow is labeled as "somewhat scummy". Cephiro was the only one that got to orange so far and back to greenish-later on... Because like I said above, I'm really not feeling sure about those reads, it's what I think so far but I haven't found anything outstanding without cherrypicking, which is what I earlier today when going through ET's filter imo, which is also the reason he's only yellow despite being the one I'd be most confident about. Still there have to be reasons for you to paint those cells yellow, no? You discusses "hard" reads in this post anyways - why leave out your scumreads? | ||
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On October 20 2013 05:30 syllogism wrote: That was Supersoft, not sure why he said that as he isn't the one who was masoned with him. Stutters said this too. In the qt. He mentioned there was someone who had info about his role but it wouldn't be supersoft. | ||
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On October 20 2013 05:30 raynpelikonoshi wrote: Stutters is very unimpressive in house QT aswell. -rayn Still true. | ||
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On October 20 2013 06:20 Stutters695 wrote: To start: Cephiro. I explained why earlier and he has done nothing to convince me otherwise. After that I'm not sure, I was trying to take it more one at a time because although I was scum in Noir, I was legit overwhelmed with the rate the thread moves. I'll get more into it once I have a chance to sit down after work. Make sure to follow up this time... | ||
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On October 20 2013 07:01 syllogism wrote: No, me being an innocent child is my license not to do anything. Even now I'm just pushing a policy lynch on a miller. Wat It is no policy lynch and I sincerely hope you don't abuse this license because you probably won't live much longer anyways. | ||
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On October 20 2013 07:09 syllogism wrote: Whether it is a policy lynch or not depends on whether he flips mafia or not. If he flips town, I was just following Palmar's dying wish. Yeah... | ||
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On October 20 2013 07:38 syllogism wrote: It would be pretty funny if JAT was mafia ? | ||
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On October 20 2013 07:43 Grackaroni wrote: Ignore this man! Worry about it. YOU SHOULD BE VERY AFRAID!!! If I have the choice I would rather ignore you and your constant useless trolling. | ||
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On October 20 2013 07:45 Blazinghand wrote: you cn't CLAIM you didn't know he flipped -- "La flipped?" AND CLAIM YOU WERE MEANING TO PM HIM you're obviously trying to trawl for twoncred ur noob BH... you really are smoking some funny shit, right? | ||
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On October 20 2013 10:03 StorrZerg wrote: its ok people ignore me too maybe someone will love me why can't i find some body to love? fk can people talk about hufflepuff since we are the best? (we just won o baby) also i know "hufflepuff" gets to decide where the +.5 goes. But i'd be interested in outside input as well. Its likely there is one or more scum in our house, so they will know regardless. Well, since you can only nominate a player of your house for the + 0.5 I think HolyFlare is the best call. He is the only one I am really leaning town on in your house. | ||
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Syllo, why does hopeless look better than holyflare? Is it just that you think Holy looks really bad or is there something redeeming about hopeless? | ||
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On October 20 2013 13:50 Sn0_Man wrote: We could also lynch losers like onegu and stutters who won't post...  Tho i wish cephiro wouldn't go back to "lol posting is for noobs" that almost got him lynched yesterday. Is he in the QT at all? Cephiro did post 2-3 times directly after the lynch promising to improve and didn't come back ever since. | ||
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On October 20 2013 23:44 syllogism wrote: Hopeless has seemed quite confident and today volunteered three town reads on players many considered potential lynch targets (mattchew, storr, vayne). Ok. But if Storr and Matt were already called town in their qt it isn't all that impressive. Vayne is no lynch target anyways. | ||
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On October 20 2013 23:58 StorrZerg wrote: He was leaning on holy after the claim Prior to the claim he had holy as town cause holy was scum hunting and he had grack as weird.\ before claim http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=431052¤tpage=88#1746 Then his reaction asap after claim to town http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=431052¤tpage=88#1748 there is also this post regarding holy and hopeless I have no idea how this makes hopeless town to be honest. I would love to hear the reasoning for grack being town btw. People give him way to much credit for trolling. What has Grack done besides that warrants a town read? | ||
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On October 21 2013 00:43 syllogism wrote: Hopeless' reaction to the cop check was to attempt to find mafia in his house. Holyfire's reaction was to vote for two people not in the house. This is much more convincing. Thanks. I will have a closer look at Holy. | ||
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On October 21 2013 01:41 raynpelikonoshi wrote: There is no reason to claim. I am thinking somebody might have had a dual gun. Like you need to target 2 of the same alignements for it to go off. I just cant believe there were so many vigis. And then there was a scum vigi. If this is true there is no SK and we can trow a party next night with only one kill. It's 14 vs 3 atm with a confirmed town and a lot of townreads. Party on! At least the KP in the flipped scum (ET and Pandain) are already enough for a kill. So maybe there actually were 3 kills by scum but I really don't understand why they would shoot toad. This is really stupid - I mean ET kinda knew his lover was in his house and Toad was the obvious candidate. Pandain looks very much like a SK shot. | ||
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On October 21 2013 02:02 Hopeless1der wrote: we toyed with the idea of a PGO being the reason for Pandain and ET dieing, and therefore Toad. Lonemeow looks like a vig. SS and LA are normal targets for mafia kp. PGO? On October 21 2013 02:07 syllogism wrote: It's extremely likely that mafia used all their available KP on n1, which is at least 3. One is missing (0.5 + 0.5 from pandain and ET) and I believe it was likely also aimed at Ravenclaw. Sounds reasonable. I don't really get the amount of dead scum in this case though. On October 21 2013 02:10 Skanjab1s wrote: I still very much believe that yamato is scum, he didn't refute the points against him at all, he just said "ohthiscaseisshitushit" as a defense. Also it is apparently his scum meta to post less and less as the game goes on, as he has been doing. I am not as confident in my scumread of snoman anymore, I'm null/leaning town on him now. Yeah, would lynch yamato. He died in the champions game too so no reason not to play here. | ||
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On October 21 2013 02:46 Holyflare wrote: Hence why I knew what a squib was How is it a scumslip by ET then? | ||
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This is a fucking Harry Potter themed game. If we're all squibs then I should've just signed up for competitive tic-tac-toe. Makes no sense to me. | ||
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Oh shit. Thought Grack said you called it a scumslip. Misread. | ||
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On October 21 2013 02:52 StorrZerg wrote: What about someone who kills anyone that visits them at night 2 mafia with .5 kp use it on 1 person, and both end up dieing Makes sense. | ||
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Still you wrongly accused me of this first^^ We can do this all game if you want... | ||
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On October 21 2013 04:17 Stutters695 wrote: Then lynch me. I'm sorry, but weekends have been bad for me since I started playing mafia unless I'm working and get time to play there. I do some volunteer stuff on weekends and the rest of the time is spent with my better half(except cigarette breaks like this lol). Maybe you should stop promising contributions then? It is getting really annoying. | ||
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On October 21 2013 04:51 raynpelikonoshi wrote: What? If you know what happened (i.e. scum shot XYZ - someone else shot ABC) why not tell it? Is there any harm if you can give the info without outing people's roles? Example: Mafioso died, mafia sure did not kill them. If you can tell how he died how does this help mafia more than it does help town? -rayn The way those mafia died may be possible again? Why reveal it and give them more information about it? | ||
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On October 21 2013 04:55 Hopeless1der wrote: Unless you plan on lynching sno, or if the info prevents a mislynch, I'd rather sno sits on it until night action resolution period. Yep. | ||
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On October 21 2013 08:34 StorrZerg wrote: can syllo and mocasta name claim at this point? Why are you so adamant about this? | ||
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On October 21 2013 08:59 Mocsta wrote: Ceph apparently gets stronger when ppl in the group die.... Odd that pandain was in it then. How do you know that? What is this group anyways? You don't have a qt? You don't gain any abilities by being in that group? Is it only to benefit Cephiro? | ||
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On October 21 2013 09:27 Mocsta wrote: Palomar pm is not relevant because that is mod generated. Whereas the message I got I am certain was written by cephiro now. I received my pm about 5min after cycle post..so it suggests cephiro was aware of the phrase Dumbledore army. He's prob a good option for sk...and fits into rayn theory of being in his house. Also explains why his emotion felt real. You are aware that Sno gave an explanation for the night kills without a SK? | ||
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On October 21 2013 09:39 Holyflare wrote: He said he had an explanation, didn't say what it was That's what I meant. | ||
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On October 21 2013 10:09 Mocsta wrote: Yeah I did read it, but was on phone so haven't had a chance to mull it over. We can safely assume that ET knew he was linked to Toad. So it does seem likely ET was killed due to this power from Sn0 and him using the 0.5KP. This would then also apply to Pandain. The other option is that a SK took out Pandain & a town vig took out ET, thus taking out Toad. Due to the quantity of NKs; Sn0's "power" seems more plausible. So: LoneMeow/LastArgument/Supersoft. Now: If 3 scum are dead, I would expect KP to be 1 as per OP (but depends on how hosts resolve night actions). Lets say KP is still 2.. we still require that 2 KP to be delivered by members that were not dead (probably same resolution process as above). So assume 2 KP; LastArgument makes a lot of sense. With Syllo a likely medic save, Supersoft also makes sense. So OK, then a vig of some sort on LoneMeow. Thats A LOT of KP though; and its also interesting to note that Cephiro wrote nothing about LoneMeow in his list post. So we come back to whether LoneMeow was taken out by town vig power; or SK. I don't think Cephiro can be easily dismissed as an SK (and I would prefer a town vig not to claim the kill, as they probably not 1-shot). I agree with this analysis. If Cephiro is antitown he might need time (like Pandain)/dead people in his army to get the really powerful abilities which he probably did not have N1. | ||
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On October 21 2013 10:20 StorrZerg wrote: hmmm well is policy lynching him good then because he is failing to live up to his word on scum hunting? Well, if he doesn't at least show up and there is no explanation by him... he deserves to be lynched. | ||
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On October 21 2013 10:27 Grackaroni wrote: JAT why did you say Palmar should be in Dumbledore's army? Look at his rolepm. | ||
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On October 21 2013 20:30 Mattchew wrote: So syllo, who do we lynch... I can dig a JAT lynch On October 21 2013 21:55 Mattchew wrote: I think we have 2 general options, we lynch into my house or we lynch outside my house plus slytherin... I say this because i firmly believe in the check on my house and dont really see a framer being involved with any of us except maybe me.. If this is true and the is 1 mafia in our house, then i dont like slytherin with mocsta (as i believe his claim) to have a 2nd (and 3rd on house cop check) mafia in the house In my mind, unless im completely missing something we should be lynching into jat, onegu, va or yam/cr... Onegu has tried to pressure me and scum hunt mostly me but i think his read has been adapting, which seems pretty townie Yam just bounced so i dont really know where i lie on him anymore it seems he really couldnt be arsed to try Jat and VA i havent dont enough reading on to say scum or not but i havent read anything that made me think theyre town yet Posts don't go to well together dude... | ||
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On October 21 2013 22:05 Cephiro wrote: There's nothing contradictory about those posts. As a mafia player you should know that it's not even a rare occurence to see a town vote for someone they aren't sure of being scum, simply because: 1) They are more sure that other players are town 2) Consolidating votes for lynch 3) Weird powers etc. Why are you painting those as something they're not? So it is normal for you to lynch someone whose posts you didn't even read properly? Someone you can't say is scum while there is a redcheck on your own house? Is that what you are saying? | ||
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On October 21 2013 22:59 Mocsta wrote: Misread. Too tired for this shit. Where the fuck is everyone else, sigh. Did you address Koshi case? The points were valid. I know you gave a one-line reply, but wasn't sure if that was the entirety of the defense. I'm here. You want to discuss something? | ||
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On October 21 2013 23:19 Mocsta wrote: Do you agree with his assessment that a scum team should have pushed for his "mislynch"? I don't know where exactly he said this? | ||
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On October 21 2013 23:26 Mocsta wrote: Here Do you agree with this assessment. Well scum had no reason to consider him a threat before you claimed the whole thing. After that... hm. I don't know. If they were hardcore pushing him suddenly that would be kind of suspicious me thinks. | ||
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On October 21 2013 23:29 Sn0_Man wrote: Lonemeow's death is the only thing I can't personally account for. I'm assuming it was a vigshot as discussed in the thread during N1. My read on mattchew has been town simply because of his actions D1 and how weak they would be from a scum perspective. Jumping between me and storrzerg, then begging ceph to roleclaim to save his life, it looked like things scum wouldn't do. I'm less certain of that now. You and syllo make real arguments for lynching him but I personally don't wish to lynch hufflepuff right now. Technically 1/5 is better than 3/17 but I feel like we can do better. PS I have a lead on vayne I need to pursue, that guy may be scum or something. Care to elaborate? | ||
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You started explaining after I asked^^ Yeah, no bonus points for being a main character anymore. That's for sure. Thank god Pandain flipped this could have gone badly. | ||
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On October 21 2013 23:34 Mocsta wrote: Sn0, I dunno fi you can answer this but... did scum have to target you for this power to enact? Cos, I just find it weird that you would have been a NK target. I guess someone else was the target. Sno shouldn't reveal anymore info about his role though if he isn't powerless now. | ||
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On October 21 2013 23:39 raynpelikonoshi wrote: Hmm, can you be a bit more specific? My take from that is that you did something to a townie and then 2 scummers with 0.5KP killed themselves because of that. Add to that 2 townkills from mafia you are left with only LoneMeow. Practical that means that Pandain and EchelonTee used their 0.5KP and you punished them for that. But that means that they had to use that on Toad otherwise there is 1 KP missing. 2NK 2 revenge kills on mafia using 0.5KP Toad dieing due to 0.5KP LoneMeow = ??? This means that Cephiro didn't do anything antitown yet. So why lynch him? Him not roleclaiming is fine as long as he plays the game and isn't a scummy fuck. Toad died because ET died Koshi. | ||
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On October 21 2013 23:44 Grackaroni wrote: Not sure how much I will be around at deadline. Don't kill JAT. He's gotten more active since mafia deaths and I could just sense the butt hurt that I was getting town reads for doing nothing and he wasn't. Best reason ever. | ||
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On October 21 2013 23:41 raynpelikonoshi wrote: Why are you using my case as your own Cephiro? You ask me about Mattchew in our QT and now you use my case as your own? Are you fucking kidding me? WHY THE FUCK? You are even mistaken and I made a case on Mattchew not Hopeless... Wait... the fuck is this?! That's indeed Koshis case from the qt... | ||
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Vayne always thinks I am scum. He is not able to read me (even admitted that). | ||
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On October 22 2013 00:06 StorrZerg wrote: whats VI Village Idiot I guess. | ||
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On October 22 2013 01:28 Stutters695 wrote: So I'm back and going to be playing catch up for a bit. Anything of major note you want my thoughts on while I'm doing it? Seriously. If you just disappear again without contributing I will lynch you. Take a look at hufflepuff. | ||
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On October 22 2013 01:57 Cephiro wrote: .... Confirmed town. Plays anti-town. SYLLO PLEASE. At least provide a better target if you for some reason don't want to lynch hufflepuff today. With all the information available in the thread, I find it quite clear that lynching in hufflepuff has the highest chance of hitting scum. He already said who he wants to lynch. Chill. | ||
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On October 22 2013 01:58 Sn0_Man wrote: He wants to lynch yam (CR). Thats quite reasonable although I keep changing my mind on how smart it is to lynch a hufflpuffl. Stutters betters lynch for now Normally I would be all for lynching yamato but he was replaced so idk about it. | ||
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On October 22 2013 02:04 Stutters695 wrote: Well after catching up on Ceph and his role, I'm with Mocsta and still think he should be number 1 lynch today. This dude is simply not town. Gonna go catch up with the other candidates, but I'm still for a Ceph lynch currently. If that's your decision make sure to have a look in the house qt. | ||
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On October 22 2013 02:06 syllogism wrote: I've many very probability town reads that makes it extremely likely that this pool of inactive players has at least one mafia, probably two (bh,stutters,yamato). I'm not going to go through every town read I have. Ok, but please do so at the end of the night. The chances for survival aren't exactly huge. | ||
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I thought he already did?! | ||
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On October 22 2013 02:24 Blazinghand wrote: hello! I'm now reading through the thread. Impressive... | ||
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Well he posted there quite a bit. I thought you might want to read that if he is your lynch candidate. | ||
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On October 22 2013 02:28 syllogism wrote: I think I will have to look into his previous games. Initially I had him slightly leaning town, but I have to re-evaluate at some point. Presumably I'm missing a lot of QT content that made some of his house mates consider him town. I am his house mate and I felt the same as you. I have to admit I fell for the main character being town thing. His activity fell apart heavily recently in thread and qt. My problem is that I only played with town Vayne so far and he has been the definition of useless in both games so his play here might fit that but I don't know. | ||
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On October 22 2013 02:37 syllogism wrote: BH that's stunning. I couldn't even imagine this being a possibility. Anyway, lets lynch Yamato. I am up for it. CR won't improve the situation of this slot. Especially if he has only one hour per day at his hands. | ||
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On October 22 2013 02:48 Stutters695 wrote: I did and, quite frankly, I didn't see anything that really swayed me. Fair enough. Would still be nice if you posted something from time to time. | ||
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On October 22 2013 02:48 Mattchew wrote: Cant he claimed to use his only protown ability last night all the rest are pretty alignment null What did he claim? Tell us. Scum already knows anyways. | ||
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On October 22 2013 02:50 syllogism wrote: Though this medic RNG is a bit difficult to believe even considering that it's BH. I suppose he could have just claimed protecting me. Don't know about that considering whatever Sno is. | ||
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On October 22 2013 03:52 Blazinghand wrote: if we really expect hopeless to prove himself townie though shouldn't we be lynching into grack/matt/hf We could but I don't know which one of them is the scum should hopeless be town. Can you tell me? | ||
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On October 22 2013 03:55 Blazinghand wrote: i don't know either. the alternative, then, is to either lynch stutters for extreme lurking (even worse than me) or yam/CR for yamato's poor contributions and CR's lurking See. That's why I will do so. ##Vote: Chairman Ray | ||
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On October 22 2013 04:32 Mattchew wrote: If you play along with what town tells you to do you dont get lynched.. you are being forced into these decisions, so the decision to do this isn't alignment indicative Maybe. But he still has to do pro town things to stay alive. Sounds fine to me. | ||
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On October 22 2013 04:39 Mattchew wrote: as of now, no one i want lynched is up for vote.. cr dying is fine but i refuse to vote for him on principal of the fact he shouldnt be in this game i have to go to work for like an hour.. i was called in... i will try to pay attention and post via mobile while driving dangerously Whatever dude... | ||
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On October 22 2013 05:09 Grackaroni wrote: vig CR asap. He's not worth the risk. Also kill Skanjab1s. Just filter Yamato's name in his filter. Scum read on Yamato. Back off because his reaction to the case was acceptable. Then later Yamato's defense was shit. Still have a scum read on Yamato. . . Meh let's kill Stutters. CR might be useful. I like this post. | ||
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On October 22 2013 05:57 Sn0_Man wrote: Dissappointing. Hope somebody can share some light on the Deathly Hallows. I get the distinct impression they are helping scum. Maybe. This night could get more complicated than we thought. Do you think this has some connection to ceph getting powerful? | ||
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On October 22 2013 06:06 Skanjab1s wrote: In retrospect, the things Stutters was doing were not scummier than what I posted on Yamato, I do not even know why I switched, but alas these are the things that made me think Stutters was scum: > Coming out of nowhere with just "Ceph is not town, because his role". Not offering any further insight into his scum read on Ceph > Says that as town, he doesn't just coast by (which he was doing). Then says that he is an infrequent poster, but as town he makes his thoughts known. As I've just said, he wasn't making his thoughts known at all. > Him telling someone to read the summary of Ceph's actions in the qt, but then someone else pointing out that there was no such summary, made me think that he was just saying it in thread to make it seem as if he was contributing, at least in his QT. Those were the things he posted that gave me scumfeels. I don't think Stutters was towny but this is weak. 1) Stutters said he thinks ceph is town very early. Before the thing about his role occured. 2) A Misunderstanding. He told CR to read the summary he made of Cephiros posts in the qt. As in Cephiro posts in qt -> Stutters summarizes those posts in thread. | ||
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On October 23 2013 04:06 syllogism wrote: JAT is not mafia, he is essentially confirmed town ? Caught up now. CR needs to die asap. We need the info about the lynch. | ||
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On October 23 2013 04:43 Sn0_Man wrote: I still haven't figured out whats townie about jat. I don't know how I am confirmed either. You wanting to lynch me is terrible though considering the alternatives. | ||
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On October 23 2013 04:50 Holyflare wrote: He should have absolutely claimed that if he was town -.- Indeed. | ||
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On October 23 2013 04:54 raynpelikonoshi wrote: Yeah I wonder why the fuck scum medic didn't save one of the three scummers that died. If he can't save himself he must have used it on one of the remaining 2. That is strange. How would he know Pandain/ET would get hit by anything? The only person a scum doc might or probably should have protected is LM... | ||
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On October 23 2013 05:50 StorrZerg wrote: 1 scum in RC Lynch CR. | ||
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On October 23 2013 05:54 raynpelikonoshi wrote: So dead players don' count anymore? Important question right here. | ||
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On October 23 2013 05:59 StorrZerg wrote: So i had convo with mod about my power. Turns out dead are not suppose to count, but palmar was counted in my first house check. Dead are not counted in house check, but if people "infiltrate" they would show up under the check (this is my assumption) I would assume this would be a power to eves drop on a QT so my check showed 1 mafia 2 town This is really weird. | ||
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On October 23 2013 06:10 Grackaroni wrote: Storrzerg is mason. He guessed his check in order to prevent people from finding out Mattchew is cop. Mattchew's probably writing up something good. Have fun  Wtf is your shitty house doing. Nobody is able to see through your bs anymore. | ||
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On October 23 2013 06:20 Sn0_Man wrote: I just want to wipe Hufflepuff out of the game and continue with a more reasonable 3-house game. Seconded. | ||
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If he was scum though he would know there is nothing to gain posting in there because it would only allow syllo to get a better read on him. Just a thought that was recently discussed in our qt. | ||
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On October 23 2013 06:35 Sn0_Man wrote: ORLY? Also NONE OF THIS IS REASONABLE OR MAKES SENSE. Most reasonable house NA. Ok, I will stop it now. | ||
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On October 23 2013 06:42 Mattchew wrote: Storr is mason, im house cop, i told him i would check raven claw and the number of paragraphs i wrote would be the number of scum... I forgot about that plan What storr said about palmar was true, the mods messed up n1 and included him with 5town 1scum I wanna say im sure storr is town but i cant be 100 so i lied to him too and check gryff... I got a 1 scum result Ps im susan bones and storr is cedric diggerary doo So the dead are not included in this? Interesting. | ||
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On October 23 2013 06:46 Sn0_Man wrote: There is no gun to jump... This is so dumb. Also how's this change rayn's check as grack lying? Rayn's clearly townier than grack. Also I like JAT for scum Syllo still hasn't explained what makes him town.. Do you seriously think I am scummier than Cephiro? Come on man... | ||
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On October 23 2013 06:52 Sn0_Man wrote: I need an explanation on the JAT read. Seems fair. I need an explanation why you think it's me and not cephiro. | ||
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On October 23 2013 06:54 Holyflare wrote: In that list I think JAT is more scummy. Yeah, you people just keep stating that. Who needs reasons? | ||
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On October 23 2013 07:03 raynpelikonoshi wrote: I think everybody should fully claim. atm there are 2 doctor claims out there anyway. If your role is really good we can have docs protect you. If your role needs secrecy then, well I don't even know why a role would need secrecy at this point, we are looking for a scum RB and a scum +1 vote. Can you tell us the reason why you want to keep your role secret? Can you tell me the benefit in claiming? I don't see it. If I was scum I would just claim VT or any given fakeclaim. You won't find out who is the RB or the +1 if I claim. | ||
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On October 23 2013 07:08 raynpelikonoshi wrote: Not that easy for scum to claim a blue role after 2 cycles I think. Scum could all claim VT but then we can trust the current blue roles more. What is the downside of not mass claiming? Remember that everybody will need to do it. In the past a lot of towns massclaimed to flush out scum. In themed games of this size? I am sceptical. Telling me there may possibly be no downsides is not a reason to claim. | ||
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On October 23 2013 07:11 raynpelikonoshi wrote: BH obviously. But snowman saved him. The problem is the BH claiming RB, if scum has RB, why not kill syllo and make Hopeless look bad because the potion got lost again? Maybe they were afraid to shoot syllo again? It wasn't completely clear how N1 went down by then. | ||
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On October 23 2013 07:22 raynpelikonoshi wrote: bECAUSE YOU FUCKING IDIOTS DID NOT LYNCH HIM ON D1. NOW LYNCH JAT. -rayn Impressive reasoning. What the hell?! | ||
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On October 23 2013 07:27 Holyflare wrote: .................... -.- is everyone lying about their roles then?!?!?!?! Better mass claim so everybody gets his chance to do so. Then just proceed by only relying on claims. Profit. | ||
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On October 23 2013 07:51 Mattchew wrote: Today i got "1 scum" and thats all Wait... N1 : 5 town + 1 scum Huffle N2 : 1 scum Gryff Like this? | ||
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On October 23 2013 07:58 raynpelikonoshi wrote: So its either BH, JAT and Grack/CR(/Cephiro maybe...) or BH, StorrZerg and Mattchew Because I really don't believe 2 docs in a 1KP scumgame and there isn't an SK it seems.. Like somewhere there. This is no 1 KP scumgame. Only because 3 scum were killed (incredibly unlikely as fast as it happened) do they have 1 KP. | ||
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On October 23 2013 15:18 Mocsta wrote: I assume this is related to JAT. If so, I don't get it. For more context, this is the precursor. If anything, this reads to me as he is trying to deflect a vig shot *OFF* lonemeow. Further, ctrl+f his filter for "lone" or "lm" indicates that the above quote is his ONLY reference to LoneMeow before he died. This is not true. On October 19 2013 07:49 justanothertownie wrote: Does he looks more confident to you or what are you hinting at? On October 19 2013 07:51 justanothertownie wrote: A simple yes would have been enough. Hm, I see your point. What are you doing Mocsta? Ok, I will partly claim. Not completely because my role could still be quite useful (there is a bit of a luck factor relevant for this) if scum doesn't know what it exactly does. I shot LM N1. Good catch Syllo. I am no multi-shot vig. It is actually impossible that I was redchecked last night due to my role. If the house checks are real it is either the hydra or cephiro. Based on their play I would tend to say it is cephiro. | ||
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On October 23 2013 22:19 raynpelikonoshi wrote: If somebody else shot LM you better call it before the end of the Day. (31 hours) Would make sense that scum has another big powerrole. Yeah, please claim. Would be nice for a scum to out himself. | ||
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On October 24 2013 08:53 Grackaroni wrote: I doubt Cephiro is scum. I wouldn't expect mafia to have elaborate fakeclaims. He wrote a scum read on someone, with an added breadcrumb in the post, and his play remains consistent of having checked mattchew. He completely drops his previous scum read from the lynch pool even though he could have kept pushing him. If he's scum this was really well planned out beforehand because scum don't just throw in potential breadcrumbs for no reason. And now he won't claim. It's not because he's scum and can't think of a claim because then he would already have a good one in mind to clear himself and would have just posted it. It's because he dislikes the general play of town demanding claims from everyone. Who is the scum in gryff then or don't you believe the check? | ||
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On October 24 2013 08:56 Grackaroni wrote: It could be Rayn but I'd honestly just lynch into scan/CR. Ok... | ||
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So Cephiro, if Rayn was an unaware miller your check would have revealed that, yes? That leaves only 3 possibilities if the housecop is town: 1) You are scum or unaware miller. 2) One of RayKo/you was framed last night. 3) Hydra is scum and was framed N1. I personally think 2) is very unlikely due to the fact that house hufflepuff knew/thought the housecop would check elsewhere. 3) is not very likely either. So I guess it is 1). -> We lynch you and if you are scum that's nice if you are Miller that's nice too because the rest of our house is confirmed. Does anyone see a problem with this logic? | ||
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On October 24 2013 23:15 Cephiro wrote: Okay, I'll stop the lies. Truth most useful to town after I die. Grack has to be town because he picked up on stuff that did not exist. I AM NOT A COP My real role is the coin thing, I have no powers on top of the masonry, with the exception that I gain 1 secret vote for every 2 coin owners that die. I secret voted Stutters because I thought the lynch was between two townies and Stutters had been of no use. I made no breadcrumbs or anything, I faked everything afterwards. The candy thing was a super lucky guess, and when rayn asked me in the QT how I would know, I guessed he was Ron after that. But I do not have a greencheck on him in reality. Scum ray would know this, and would also know that when I flip he would inevitably be the next one to die due to this very reason. That's why I think Gryffindor is all town. I know this sounds super weird (because it is), but this time I'm speaking the truth. The Finland "breadcrumb", was something I just came up with after trying to link myself into Susan or Bones somehow, it took quite a while to find a lucky connection afterwards. Yes, I fakeclaimed cop as town. Yes, I will probably die today. Yes, you are killing these 4 people: Chairman Ray, Onegu, Holyflare, skanjab1s Questions? Wait you want us to believe you actually deduced RayKo is Ron Weasley just because of the candy? Why did you fake the whole cop thing in the first place if you are town? This just gets weirder and weirder. | ||
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On October 24 2013 23:37 raynpelikonoshi wrote: It's not that hard to guess. Pandain (Harry) had flipped. Ceph is Hermione, Vayne had basically claimed Ginny. Either me, Stutters or JAT has to be Ron Weasley. He put's "candy" in his post and then you go "hmm.. candies.." in thread. What there is to guess? -rayn Makes sense. Still secret voting Stutters over CR with a townread on Stutters is just too much. | ||
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On October 25 2013 03:51 Holyflare wrote: Why would you wait SO long to reveal and then fake claim cop, if the only actual power you get is a secret vote....? WHAT IS THE POINT. This. | ||
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On October 25 2013 03:52 Cephiro wrote: Also you can now all do the whining and complaining you will do once I flip so that you can get onto scumhunting right after instead of spending an hour of "Omg ceph so bad never play games with him again" I don't say such things. If you are not scum HolyFlare get interesting for example. | ||
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On October 25 2013 03:54 Holyflare wrote: You're telling me to get interesting........? Coming from you???? Hm? You are telling me 2 secret voters for town are very likely? | ||
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On October 25 2013 03:55 Holyflare wrote: People just assume I haven't been doing anything but I've actually been posting uselful things to determine who is scum, just nobody reads my filter and "assumes" i've done nothing...... I never said that. | ||
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On October 25 2013 03:57 Holyflare wrote: Do you know what the scum powers are? If hopeless potion stops someone from voting, don't you think that is a counter to secret votes? We only know about invunerability so far, how do we know he isn't lying? Plus there are potentially 2 other scum when cephiro flips red and you don't know their powers. Or do YOU? Nope, I don't. All I said was you would get interesting. I did not say you are 100% scum and I will vote fore you and only you. Chill out. Don't waste you valuable contributions by yelling at me. | ||
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On October 25 2013 04:13 Sn0_Man wrote: So much distancing So much to be ignored. | ||
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On October 25 2013 04:24 Holyflare wrote: and yes, I know all the scum powers. Is that what you wanted to hear now? ? | ||
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On October 25 2013 04:48 Hopeless1der wrote: i moved my vote to CR just in case. raynoshi can you make it 3? Do you have any reason for this fear of unlynchability? | ||
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On October 25 2013 04:50 syllogism wrote: Obviously they are all three unlynchable and we should lynch someone else That's probably it... | ||
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On October 25 2013 04:51 Hopeless1der wrote: yeah my cop check included an unlynchabe clause. i just want to cover our bases. Hm. | ||
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On October 25 2013 05:20 Chairman Ray wrote: I vote we lynch into Hufflepuff. I won't exclude the possibility that checks can be tampered with from scum abilities, but between griff and huffle, I think that it really makes sense for a house to have at least one scum in it from a game design perspective, so we lynch into huffle until we hit the scum, and then hopefully by then new information would have arisen that would lead us to another scum. We should start seriously considering these checks to be fucked with. I still don't think the hydra is scum and I know I am not. Since we lost our lead against mafia somewhat we should be very careful with the next lynch. These modkills and people like cephiro who fuck up town without any reason certainly do not help. | ||
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On October 25 2013 05:43 Onegu wrote: Could JAT be a SK that can hold his shot, or he shot someone protected, and that is why there is a red check? No. | ||
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Guess what I got this time? The same as yesterday... So docs don't save me. It won't even work and it is also not needed because scum can't kill me anyways. | ||
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On October 25 2013 06:18 Grackaroni wrote: No he's not. You have much time to explain this to me/convince me. Atm I don't see it. | ||
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On October 25 2013 15:04 Onegu wrote: ^^^ But anyway CR and Holyflare, skanjabs scumteam JAT SK. Or CR, BH, Grack. JAT SK Unless HF has been hard bussing BH this entire game I dont think they are scum together, but I am 95% certain one of them is scum. Is there any reason why you are so sure I am SK? Wtf. How is this in any way logical? I shot scum N1 - there were NO shots N2. You really think it is more likely I am SK who hold his shot (as far as I know this is impossible usually) or that both scum AND SK shots were saved rather than that I simply am what I say I am? On October 25 2013 15:41 Mocsta wrote: the use of maybe does not align with the stated outcome of him being sk in either scenario Why do you even think there is a 3p and why is it jat? Indeed. On October 25 2013 16:19 syllogism wrote: I'm not lynching into Gryff unless two mafia flip and neither is a framer. Thank you. On October 25 2013 15:38 Onegu wrote: Maybe he can choose to shoot or be night immune maybe? So his claim is real but not random? You aren't making any sense. I was night immune yesterday, yes. SO WHY THE FUCK WOULD I APPEAR AS A REDCHECK EVEN IF I WAS SK? Maybe you should start using your brain sometime. | ||
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On October 25 2013 17:05 Holyflare wrote: Jat what is your character name? How is that of any importance? | ||
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On October 26 2013 05:15 syllogism wrote: Hopeless1der: I'm probably fine with lynching holy as well, but CR hasn't even been trying to play and is essentially just joking around. Justanothertownie: what about your house check result? On October 26 2013 05:14 justanothertownie wrote: Anyone interested in my check? 1 scum in Ravenclaw it says. | ||
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On October 26 2013 05:27 Chairman Ray wrote: Do we know if any tampering could have affected jat's check? Anyways, lynching into Ravenclaw is probably a good bet then since we have the fewest scum possibilities here. Sn0 is confirmed town I believe? Syllogism RBed me last night instead of any of the confirmed blues. Since I claimed vanilla town, from his perspective if he's town, then I would either be vanilla town or scum to him. If he's mafia, then I would be vanilla town to him. So roleblocking me was definitely a town thing to do, so I'm inclined to believe he's town. That leaves myself and Onegu. I'm town, so if jat's check is reliable, then Onegu must be the scum. I would lynch Onegu today, because he will flip scum and we don't have to waste a day lynching me. But knowing you guys, you guys will probably want to lynch me first, and that's also okay, as long as you guys get Onegu tomorrow. But I know that I'm town, so I would prefer Onegu lynch first. ##vote: Onegu Wow, you figured out syllo is town?! How did you do that? | ||
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On October 26 2013 08:47 Grackaroni wrote: People have no idea how much it bugs that I accuse Skanjab of having weak justification for a vote change off of his scum read and contradictions and I get ignored. But then Mocsta writes that Skanjab1s case on Sn0 Man was weak. (It was actually quite reasonable; Switching from a scumread on to a policy lynch proposed by your previous scum read is scummy) and then cherry picks some one-liners and says Skanjab doesn't care about the lynch and that constitutes a good case. I could find quotes exactly like that in every single town game Palmar has ever played in or even from my own filter this game. I remember not ignoring that. Weird. | ||
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On October 27 2013 01:13 You-Know-Who wrote: We did not get a unanimous decision to have 24 hour days. You are still welcome to request them if you have not done so already, but they will not come into effect until D5 (if a unanimous decision is reached). For D4, it's too late to have a 24 hour day. <3 ... | ||
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On October 28 2013 05:04 syllogism wrote: Honestly I think we can blame ourselves for that one. Yes, he didn't do anything, but we largely stopped playing after day 2. True. But he would never have gotten useful. He shouldn't have replaced in in the first place. | ||
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On October 28 2013 05:07 Holyflare wrote: So this is what we need to do. Yesterday people knew bh wasn't getting protected and he is a 'medic', everyone kind of silently agreed with this to a point but now he isn't dead. That is ridiculously suspicious, not to mention that scum shot onegu?? Like wtf? Nobody even knew that guys role why the hell would they shoot him over a medic? If mocsta was scum (hypothetically) then he would have just killed the other medic, sn0, but that didn't happen either. So what happened? I think bh tried to shoot sn0 but Mocsta caught BH out again, onegu fake claims vet to take the heat off and make it seem like BH is innocent. If we lynch onegu first, we can still rb bh to see if nk's go through and then we won't lose a medic in the process while still verifying an onegu/bh scum team. The third person I think is skan, so onegu to confirm this all and then follow up from there IMO. So both checks on huffle and gryff were framed?... | ||
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On October 28 2013 05:07 Blazinghand wrote: I guess another alternative would be that in addition to being a vet Onegu is also a non-self-aware miller, or scum has a frame that's targetted at the cop or something and "befuddles" (or whatever that spell is) to him to always see one scum where he checks. How would they know I was cop? They couldn't. | ||
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On October 28 2013 05:10 syllogism wrote: BH you are "protecting" sn0 again. I think sn0 should protect JAT due to his roles potentially being useful. Hopeless you need to give the final potion to someone who isn't dying tonight Yeah, if you can afford it save me tonight... | ||
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On October 28 2013 05:12 Holyflare wrote: I do not believe anybody would shoot onegu over people with powers. Who would you have shot? Most people were save some way. | ||
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On October 28 2013 05:17 Holyflare wrote: Everyone in this game is blue pretty much. Yeah, but scum knew many of their roles and they did not know Onegus. | ||
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On October 28 2013 06:04 Skanjab1s wrote: But then any chance of it being used to help me is destroyed. That's the point. | ||
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On October 28 2013 14:54 syllogism wrote: Why would mafia send BH to deliver the kill twice? Would they expect Mocsta to rb him twice? On October 28 2013 15:01 syllogism wrote: If Onegu's claim is fake, he had been preparing it at least since early day 3. He said that he had an ability he could use once or more precisely an ability he could only use once without hurting himself. No framer would mean that there is no mafia left in Slytherin. I'm not willing to accept this and I think we should ignore the checks completely. If mafia framer doesn't have anything better to do with his abilities, framing Ravenclaw on n3 made perfect sense even without them knowing there was still a potential cop alive. Yes, it made sense. But how likely is it? Do you think the framer can frame the same person 2 nights in a row? I checked Ravenclaw not only because there were few players left with one confirmed town but also because I thought if there was a time to frame CR it was N2 after the stutters lynch. If Onegu was shot he was obviously not framed. I am a little confused. Maybe Onegu is lying and scum. Maybe scum has a power that is not a normal framer but a house framer or whatever - town has so many roles and scum obviously isn't blessed at the KP front. I start to think we should ignore the cop checks altogether, too. On October 28 2013 15:08 Mocsta wrote: JATCan you please outline how/what the hydra went about pushing a pandain town read? Hydra and Vayne gave Pandain an extremely strong townread very early Day1 after his opening post. Vayne just stated he is town so he only had to figure out the other gryffs alignment and Rayn said Pandain was like confirmed town. All that for a post that read very very null to me (and rightfully so as Pandain was scum). On October 28 2013 16:21 Mocsta wrote: JAT Another one for you. According to the timestamps, do you know if Rayn voiced concerns about ET in the QT? He asked Pandain who to lynch first out of ET and cephiro in the same post he called Pandain confirmed town. On October 28 2013 23:08 syllogism wrote: Hopeless you should give your presumably final potion to sn0 or JAT Give it to Sno. I am happy to see people finally got over Onegus "scumslip" because calling it that is insanely stupid whatever alignment he may have. I am also happy some people start trying again. I will read up some things too if I have the time later. | ||
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On October 29 2013 02:06 Holyflare wrote: So you're saying he didn't get cop tonight, let's frame cr when syllo can check it? Could you refresh me about this power of syllo? | ||
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On October 29 2013 03:12 Sn0_Man wrote: hopeless is no jack. Me neither. I just got lucky. | ||
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On October 29 2013 04:10 Hopeless1der wrote: btw i gave antidote to JAT I thought I said give it to Sno... | ||
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On October 29 2013 05:09 Hopeless1der wrote: you have no vote and survive an additional 24 hours in the event of death (from night kills) Is this permanent? | ||
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On October 29 2013 05:12 raynpelikonoshi wrote: Do not ffs drink it JAT! Calm down. I won't jump the gun here. | ||
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On October 29 2013 14:51 Onegu wrote: Dit JAT or syllo do anything to BH? If not then we should lynch him. I would be ok with a Holyflare lynch also. Skanjab would be a outside shot as he is currently my 3rd scum. I will go over his filter during my sons nap. I didn't do shit. On October 29 2013 21:55 syllogism wrote: If Bh is the mafia medic, I don' t understand who he was protecting on n1 unless he just didn't send in his action. None of the people still alive were likely n1 vig shots. If he is mafia... does he have to be medic at all? Do we have any prove he is a medic? On October 29 2013 23:14 Mocsta wrote: Its been very loose. You need a house majority to activate (so it has never activated) (1) 23rd - Mocsta: Lets squib grack, as he may have lied about being VT BH- is ok with this. (2) 24th: Sn0 suggests to squib HolyFlare Skanjab - Thinks squib HF is useless on justification he claimed secret vote, so does not guarantee it will block scum KP (3) 28th - Mocsta: Squib Hopeless or BH. I suggest lack of "daethly hallows" follow up may be due to me conseq RB BH. BH - Asks if i know what deathl hallows is and then says it may not be related because since he was RB there was no NK or lynches on scum Skanjab - asks not to squib BH as the mods specified it wont stop a NK What do you expect from the deathly hollows then? I personally have no idea what they are and if nothing happened up to this point why should there be something scary coming from it? Do you have more informatio than we do? Also it is interesting how skanjab tried to influence the potion giving in your qt while he didn't care about the actual game. On October 29 2013 23:31 syllogism wrote: If BH does not vote as we tell him to, he is claiming mafia. He can certainly pretend not to be here, but that's essentially also claiming mafia. The same applies to Skanjab. Kinda true. On October 30 2013 02:12 Holyflare wrote: Thus essentially confirming a player as town........... You're kidding right? Why would it confirm you as town? I don't see it. If it works the way syllo thinks you are confirmed scum, if it doesn't there is no confirmation of anything at all. On October 30 2013 02:29 Holyflare wrote: No, you have not, you pointed out things that I have proven to be just not true. You've abused the fact that you are an IC with suboptimal play to say the least. If you weren't modconfimed I would have seriously contemplated lynching you this game for it. I have done nothing but try and hunt for scum the entirety of this game and to be voted off because you don't like how mods distribute power is ridiculous. There are people like BH who you say if sn0 dies it PROVES he is scum but you arent voting him off, there are people that have quite literally done nothing this entire game like skanjabs who will continue to do so. Yet here you are, coasting, voting for the player with an odd role. I think it is absolutely reasonable to not like syllos play. Same goes for mine. But even if I had more time on my hands I don't need to prove my townieness like you do. The world is unfair. I would love to hear some opinions on this potion I got btw. should I drink it? Should I not? | ||
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On October 30 2013 04:10 Blazinghand wrote: Yeah I know and if I get lynched for it that's my fault too. I needed a place to vent so I dropped it in there, and it's something I could fake as scum but it's also the truth. I've been kind of hoping someone would claim cop with a green check on me but it doesn't look like there's a superman out there for me. At least if I die today or tomorrow I didn't "pull an Oatsmaster" and get mislynched at lyloSo you are demoralized and humble and all but still firing shots at oats? | ||
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On October 30 2013 04:12 Blazinghand wrote: Man even as Eccleston I could at least be scum and fake a read on someone and flip out and scream my head off that that guy needed to be lynched. I don't even have reads. fuuuuuuuuuuu Then pull your head out of your ass and do something ffs. | ||
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On October 30 2013 04:19 Blazinghand wrote: yeah.. I really should try to come up with reads... but who would listen to me now? Stop asking yourself or me/the thread pointless questions like this one and do it. People will listen to you depending on what you bring up and how you do so. | ||
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On October 30 2013 04:23 Blazinghand wrote: wow jat no need to be a flipping dirk I am perfectly calm. But I won't led that behaviour slide if it is coming from a player like you. | ||
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The "charm" explanation is at the very least possible somehow. Apart from that Holy at least showed some investment in the game while BH, skanjabis, hopeless (and onegu to some extent) just don't give a fuck. If you want my vote can you sum up your whole reasoning for a Holy lynch for me again? Rayn really disappoints me btw. As soon as his lynch was off the table his announced great reread with scumreads was transformed into some underwhelming posting. Not that I did better but I didn't run around promising people to find scum. Maybe I will find a bit more time tomorrow. | ||
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I don't like this HolyFlare lynch I really don't. Look how all the other scummy people just jump aboard the wagon. Like he said exacty like the CR and Cephiro lynches. I am not convinced by the reasons brought up against him and still think the rolepm is the only valid reason to attack him but it is not enough for me to vote him. Rayn looks bad bad bad btw. First he states he won't vote Holy then he does and with ridiculous reasoning btw. If Holy was scum - why would he announce this ability to the public? Why is it scummy that he didn't use it on Cephiro when he used it on CR the day after? Where is the scum motivation to do so? Why are people ignoring BH despite the shot on Sno and no rb? I am disappoint. | ||
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On October 31 2013 04:43 syllogism wrote: JAT you have to vote HF, because voting someone who is not going to get lynched only opens the door for mafia tampering the vote. I don't have to vote for anyone I don't want to. | ||
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On October 31 2013 04:46 Blazinghand wrote: I'm here and I am down for shenannies. that being said I should probably just vote so I don't get modkilled huh Yeah, would be too bad if you were modkilled... | ||
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On October 31 2013 04:47 syllogism wrote: Can you trust me just this once? Clearly what I said makes sense, making a statement does not help town in any way. I trusted you quite a few times already this game. I don't see how mafia could turn this lynch around. | ||
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On October 31 2013 04:55 Blazinghand wrote: ;_; well i'll get my shit together this night. there aren't even that many people left alive any more, how hard could it be to read these filters right? it's just i sit down to read the filters and instead end up doing other things instead Awww... | ||
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On October 31 2013 05:29 Hopeless1der wrote: do you believe this confirms me and grack as town, as per matts check? I think it makes me less likely to vote you for now. Not confirmed though. | ||
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On October 31 2013 05:36 raynpelikonoshi wrote: Tahnk god syllo. I am roleblocked tonight in case scum have some shitty another 0.5 KP. ? | ||
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On October 31 2013 05:39 raynpelikonoshi wrote: I got bad candy last night. :/ And for the record i am not scum JAT. I am disappoint son. Maybe. I always have trouble trusting guys with a redcheck on them. It's like Noir. | ||
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On October 31 2013 08:42 Mocsta wrote: Now to check how holy n Grack interacted... 20pages of awesome Oh god, have fun. Holy did a good job at making it a pain to read his filter. Keep us up to date about the squib thing please. If BH was squibbed I'd like to know. | ||
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On October 31 2013 09:09 Mocsta wrote: Why did your vote not count? Did you drink Hopeless potion? Maybe. Maybe not. That is not important atm. I got an interesting role tonight. | ||
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On October 31 2013 09:15 Skanjab1s wrote: Yeah thats what you get when you try to make me look scummy to the rest of the thread biatch. Wait. So you just have to accuse scum to get them to claim? Really that easy? | ||
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On October 31 2013 09:43 Mocsta wrote: I get the matt check on Hufflepuff was correct (1 scum - Holy) I get that Matt also checked Gryffndor (= Rayn + Jat left) for 1 scum ?Apparently JAT checked Onegu? - I can't remember, but somehow there was a red check on that house. But I checked Ravenclaw - 1 scum. So basically redcheck on Onegu. We have 2 redchecks: Rayn and Onegu, but I can't really imagine that there is no scum left in slytherin. | ||
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On October 31 2013 10:03 Grackaroni wrote: Syllo is a fool if he thinks being invested in the game prevents someone from being mafia. That may have been the case 2 years ago but not anymore. Well if he really thought so he wouldn't have lynched Holy... | ||
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On October 31 2013 15:46 syllogism wrote: JAT are you a vig tonight? That would be great, wouldn't it? Sadly I won't be able to kill anybody tonight. Why? Do you have someone you are sure about? | ||
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On October 31 2013 19:31 raynpelikonoshi wrote: It doesn't matter. Sn0 was docced + hit -> he died = doctor lies. + see what Mocsta said. Also see my awesome picture case on Grackaroni which i am awaiting his answer for. If I add what Mocsta said it is possible that BH was unable to save Sno because he was his last save that wasn't roleblocked. | ||
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On October 31 2013 19:33 raynpelikonoshi wrote: yeah but he claimed that hosts said it was okay. which is impossible. He claimed hosts said it was possible for him to save the person he tried to save N3 when he was roleblocked as far as I understand which could be fine. But Sno was also his last unroleblocked save and from what I see he didn't ask about that. | ||
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On November 01 2013 01:59 justanothertownie wrote: I reread BH because of this. Kinda remarkable how he doesn't interact with people who flipped scum at all till very recently when Holy had a go at him. Even that is not very much considering how Holy attacked him all game long. He doesn't interact with Onegu too btw. Maybe I should read Zaragon now... Could you give me a short summary about your reasoning for eliminating him, Syllo? I want to feel better about it than I do now... I would be ignoring all the checks you know. And Rayn, you won't really find rayn in his filter. | ||
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On November 01 2013 04:24 Grackaroni wrote: you don't exactly sound ok with it though. I also don't even think JAT shot you... How come?^^ | ||
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This is resolution period, right? | ||
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On November 01 2013 05:06 Onegu wrote: I got. If you have sent in a night action, the target for your night action has been randomed. Jesus... | ||
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I won't understand that you would lynch me BEFORE RAYN in a million years. | ||
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On November 01 2013 09:54 Mocsta wrote: Did he? I thought he gave a potion to JAT that gave alignment back to Hopeless1der. But JAT didnt use it This is both wrong. | ||
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On November 01 2013 23:58 Onegu wrote: I find grack more scummy than rayn, but anyway skanjabs is scum. I am trying to catch up on another game I replaced into, but skan is scum and Im not moveing my vote. I think they both aren't that scummy but rayn has this redcheck and grack doesn't (on the contrary the scum in his house is dead already). There is only one scum left and we still have not found a framer. | ||
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On November 02 2013 09:36 Mocsta wrote: What, so Night1 he scored Palmar role. Last night he scored Echelon Tea role. The other 3 nights, he scored Mattchew house check + 2x: Hopeless invulnerability potion? Almost. Sorry I am really drunk and of no use right now. Protect me though. | ||
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On November 03 2013 04:29 Onegu wrote: Haha so if you dont shoot me I win Exactly. And if you don't shoot me I win alone. | ||
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On November 03 2013 20:50 Onegu wrote: @ JaT what made you shoot me over rayn and grack? My scumread on you, the redcheck on you + my townreads on rayn and grack. On November 03 2013 20:59 Onegu wrote: The only way for me to win was to shoot you, I couldnt let you keep the wand, I knew you had it from BH. You knew scum knew you had the wand you should have told town you had it and what it did during resolution, in case you were wrong about me. No, I couldn't tell it to the thread because of the same reasons I couldn't tell I had the cloak before. The cloak is a fucking anti town item. It makes you immune to any non-KP night actions which means you can't be saved by docs or swapped with another person. If I told the thread I had the cloak scum could have instantly just shot me and knew there was no way for anyone to do something against it. I was pretty sure you were the last scum so I just shot you. | ||
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On November 04 2013 02:39 Onegu wrote: Ok you are confirmed town, syllo confirmed town, mocsta close to confirmed. One scum between me grack and rayn, no matter who it is they know you have the wand from BH. They cannot let you keep the wand and be able to shoot into the scum pool each night and win. They have to shoot you and get the wand back. There is no other possible shots that night knowing you have the wand. Well yes there is. You did not need to kill me instantly just because of the wand. That's why I called for people to protect me. | ||
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On November 04 2013 02:41 syllogism wrote: Right, but since it was impossible for mafia to win in any other way, it's reasonable to assume that they are. No one else was talking about deathly hallows, so a townie probably didn't have them. Not necessarily. The description of the hallows suggested it was a wincon for only the person who gets them all. I only heard it was for your fraction when they said that AFTER THE GAME WAS OVER. Also Hopeless had the stone for the majority of the game and didn't say anything. I suspected sno to have it though... | ||
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On November 04 2013 02:42 Onegu wrote: there are only 3 possible scum players left, if you keep the wand, shoot one, lynch one, and shoot again. Even if mocsta is scum then its 2v1 and he gets lynched in lylo. Yeah, no nightkills right? | ||
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If you manage to gather all three Deathly Hallows, you win the game. Now tell me you read that your faction wins if you collect all of them... | ||
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On November 04 2013 02:46 Hopeless1der wrote: I don't think scum should have been able to RNG into the elder wand. I mean yeah they ended up needing it to stay in the game but it could have very easily made the game unwinnable for town. True. Especially considering how close they got to winning although they lost half their team N1. But this game was really luck based anyways so it's ok I guess. | ||
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On November 04 2013 02:50 Onegu wrote: The first NK has to be on you. I guess the only way not shooting you would work would be if mocsta was scum. If grack me or rayn are scum it gg if scum doesnt shoot you. ie Rayn is scum. You shoot me, rayn, nk syllo. JaT, grack, rayn, mocsta alive. Mislynch grack. Night actions rayn shoots you you shoot rayn. Mocsta is only player left alive and wins. Whatever I shot you and it is over. GG. | ||
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On November 04 2013 02:50 Hopeless1der wrote: Oh I also didn't bring up the stone because I was supposed to live an extra 24 hours, but hosts made an error. If/when I died I was going to reveal it. I had no way to get the other hallows so it wasn't worth bringing up in my opinion. Side note id tried to cop check onegu the night I died. No idea how that would have turned out. Actually that means Onegu shouldn't even have had the Stone last night according to the post game discussion so he couldn't have won anyways. | ||
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Still independent from the blue actions syllo definitely played the best game. | ||
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On November 04 2013 07:23 marvellosity wrote: btw Hopeless, I moved off you because syllo said I was making too much of it, and I trusted him on that. Also grabbing some cred for the LM shot yo. Rightfully so. You convinced me. | ||
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On November 05 2013 08:03 Mocsta wrote: One of the stupider things about the alternative win con was that factional kp was not blockavle.. the game would have been very different if holy had the elder wand and by was shooting factional. Maybe town should have said stuff about Hallows, but at least explain openly how rb mechanics work. What I don't like about it is that if they had shot me a night earlier BH would just have to kill Onegu to ensure scum victory. No townie knew the elder wand was blockable btw. not even what it exactly does. All I had was the info I posted earlier about my own item until I got the wand myself and even then I could just assume it was blockable because there were so few kills while BH was blocked and not because I really knew it. | ||
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On November 05 2013 23:36 Zaragon wrote: You had a good read on me Mocsta, but I just want to note that the particular sentence you underlined from my posts wasn’t intended as a jab at you; it was self-critique about getting stuck overworking a read on you in Noir. Too bad I had to replace out before I could respond on that point, at least, because I certainly self-critique as town. But thinking back, what I would probably have done differently as town is to push myself to give one new scum read before getting replaced. I probably would’ve had scrap hints of suspicion to work with. But it’s hard to say, it’s really frustrating when my condition muddles my play. Hopefully I'll be back in better shape for more games in the future. Apologies to BH for having to take up a slightly scummy heritage at such poor timing. gg all. Well, you weren't scummier than BH so no problem at all!^^ | ||
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