EPTWhy is cephiro townier?
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Why is cephiro townier? | ||
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I want to kill him because I think he has gone about his power/role in an anti town style. I argued before that even if his power is town. The risk/rewards suggests he is a good lynch candidate regardless. | ||
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I don't understand where the breakdown is occurring. I am struggling to piece together how what you just said is related to what I said. Unless you are getting to anti town manner of approach. Yes. The people he chose and the method he chose to communicate through key words and specifically stating not to discuss this in the thread. I don't think this is congruent with choosing 4 strong town reads. We never had a qt so it's not like we were a think tank. He could have easily just put us in the group and left no message to recognise who he was. Of course I don't know his role pm so maybe there was criteria to be met.. but the whole thing just doesn't line up for me. | ||
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???? Lol 4 people received an anonymous message. I assume all 4 got the same message. It stated the 4 people added and undefined "captain" We were told not to discuss in thread and to communicate in thread via use of 2 keywords. That was it. Later cepbiro used this message system to communicate he was captain and explain how he gets stronger. 3 of 4 in the group have died. He posts he is stronger which ties in with his description of the power. Again, I just don't think his approach lines up with choosing 4 strong town reads for this group. Then u have the NK on lonemeow when bis list post was empty. U have his failed promises to be more active. It's bot stacking up well for cephiro | ||
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I have had a scum read on yam since his first post. Same with skankab.. it's just once I found out he was in champion game I gave him benefit of the doubt. We all know he is out now abd if you read champions game. The care factor is instantly there. Not in this game. I want cephiro to explain himself before figuring out what I want to do. I don't have him as mafia like yourself so now it's really up to him to come out. | ||
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If I have a guess. He has 1kp and 4 spells. Each spell level requires someone dead so he can cast up to level 3 currently. | ||
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Gggrrrrr | ||
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On October 21 2013 21:55 Mattchew wrote: Who is this second scum in Slytherin?I think we have 2 general options, we lynch into my house or we lynch outside my house plus slytherin... I say this because i firmly believe in the check on my house and dont really see a framer being involved with any of us except maybe me.. If this is true and the is 1 mafia in our house, then i dont like slytherin with mocsta (as i believe his claim) to have a 2nd (and 3rd on house cop check) mafia in the house In my mind, unless im completely missing something we should be lynching into jat, onegu, va or yam/cr... Onegu has tried to pressure me and scum hunt mostly me but i think his read has been adapting, which seems pretty townie Yam just bounced so i dont really know where i lie on him anymore it seems he really couldnt be arsed to try Jat and VA i havent dont enough reading on to say scum or not but i havent read anything that made me think theyre town yet On October 18 2013 14:20 Mattchew wrote: If BH/Sn0/Skan is scum, then why are they not in your list above [Onegu, Yam, JAT, VA]slytherin: Mocsta, EchelonTee blazinghand I-Be-Pro sn0_man skanjabs1s | ||
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On October 21 2013 22:53 Mattchew wrote: I said slytherin dont have a second scum Misread. Too tired for this shit. Where the fuck is everyone else, sigh. Did you address Koshi case? The points were valid. I know you gave a one-line reply, but wasn't sure if that was the entirety of the defense. | ||
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On October 21 2013 23:01 justanothertownie wrote: I'm here. You want to discuss something? Cephiro is not under any pressure as there is only 1 vote on him. How have you found his attitude since he has returned? | ||
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On October 21 2013 23:12 justanothertownie wrote: Less whiny, more interested. Better than before at least. Do you agree with his assessment that a scum team should have pushed for his "mislynch"? | ||
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On October 21 2013 23:23 justanothertownie wrote: I don't know where exactly he said this? Here On October 21 2013 21:24 Cephiro wrote: EBWOP: To add on the above statement, scum doesn't clearly consider me a threat or a possibility behind some night actions, the mis-lynch on me would've been pushed much harder at this point. So I believe they think either: 1) I am no threat to them. 2) I am a pro-scum role that is not aligned with them. 3) Have planned something for me later. Also, I am almost 100% certain Ron Weasley is town. Do you agree with this assessment. | ||
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On October 21 2013 23:29 justanothertownie wrote: Well scum had no reason to consider him a threat before you claimed the whole thing. After that... hm. I don't know. If they were hardcore pushing him suddenly that would be kind of suspicious me thinks. Agreed + scum is most likely demoralised. 3 down + potentially 1 out of hufflepuff + potentially 2 replacements (obviously this is a lot of asumptions). But yes, seems like a manipulative bending of the truth to me. His reaction is very calm, yes, but as stated before: there is no genuine pressure on him yet either. I don't really have much more to say, I have lots of questions that can only be answered by flips i 'spose. | ||
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I dunno fi you can answer this but... did scum have to target you for this power to enact? Cos, I just find it weird that you would have been a NK target. | ||
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On October 21 2013 23:39 raynpelikonoshi wrote: Hmm, can you be a bit more specific? My take from that is that you did something to a townie and then 2 scummers with 0.5KP killed themselves because of that. Add to that 2 townkills from mafia you are left with only LoneMeow. Practical that means that Pandain and EchelonTee used their 0.5KP and you punished them for that. But that means that they had to use that on Toad otherwise there is 1 KP missing. 2NK 2 revenge kills on mafia using 0.5KP Toad dieing due to 0.5KP LoneMeow = ??? This means that Cephiro didn't do anything antitown yet. So why lynch him? Him not roleclaiming is fine as long as he plays the game and isn't a scummy fuck. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=431052¤tpage=104#2068 That was my take. You raise a valid point though. If the 0.5KP was reflected; how did ET or Toad die. Umm. Sn0 can you confirm whether ET should have had a full KP dealt to him? | ||
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Can you summarise why MattChew isn't fair game in hufflepuff? | ||
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On October 21 2013 23:58 Cephiro wrote: If you want to lynch scum, then you don't prefer me. Do you not agree I have upped my play? (Even if only for the last few hours?). And you have more coming. As for what you think of my role.. Great power comes with great responsibility. Up your play. Apparently you cited someone elses case. Do you disagree? | ||
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On October 22 2013 00:58 Mattchew wrote: Im not gonna be at a computer until atleast 3 hours from now Holyflare has posted sensibly, scum hunted and pursued his scum reads, however his scum read on me at the end of day 1 seemed really off to me. Syllo also posted a lot about the possibility of him being scum, but his power (if true) seems almost too weak for scum given all the powers and numbers town have in this game Hopeless's powers are kinda strong and he kinda breadcrumbed he was a jat in our QT, however he could change the word role check to cop and then it could easily be a scum role, and he could have been role checking toad on behalf of his scum teammate ET... Pandain also protects him from LA, and he really does ask a lot of questions and not follow up on them Grack has started contributing however he was also defended i believe by pandain, he has played this game with a lot of excitment and seems to post very fast without what seems like any second thought to what he has to say... His confidence is what really makes me think he is town I think i would still pick hopeless to die first out of the three, the more i think about it the less im convinced scum would target me or anyone from our house for a framer This is all reasonable. I'm not sure I buy into the credit Syllo gives for Hopeless1der to filter dive pandain. After all; It gives him an opportunity to manipulate content before others do & I can't really think what else Hopeless has done. It still concerns me how easily be backed off in Day1 as he was pushing things. Its too late, I am going to bed. I am leaving my vote on Cephiro. To be frank, I'm not confident he is anti-town.. however, we are ahead, and I am sick of how he keeps dangling the carrot in front of everyone. So my vote remains. | ||
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On October 22 2013 09:02 raynpelikonoshi wrote: yamato did play to his town meta on D1 and guess who else stopped playing after N1?-rayn Rayn, regarding the below: I do not have firm thoughts, so am happy to debate this out. I don't understand why people thought Yamato was playing his town meta. This extends all the way back to Pandain: On October 17 2013 23:41 yamato77 wrote: <I believe regarding Skanjab> Well, at least this idiotic push if me gives me a read on you. On October 17 2013 23:51 Pandain wrote: My take on Yamato town-meta is that he tries to be the knight in shining armor. He is forthcoming with his reads, and has a confidence behind them as if he has mod-information.I don't think it proves anything, never really see mafia go after vets. Especially with weak reasoning and when they're all alone, its just a lone townie trying to lynch you. Mocsta and Yamato are my two strongest town reads. Mocsta because every single thing he's posted so far I've liked and he's not spamming the thread while still having an influence. Yamato because he is being his townie self without the incessant spam, and I heavily disagree that he isn't pushing people. You don't have to vote someone to push them. Skanjab, you are tunneling Yamato and reading into things. He doesn't have to exactly fit with his town meta to be town, heck he was playing his scum meta up until the second day of play in Thug and he was town. Also why /would you lynch a potentially very valuable vet? This game: his first efforts were to socialise and complain On October 17 2013 10:28 yamato77 wrote: As an introductory post all this serves is to discredit a player in the game; whilst producing no direct reason to why that discredit exists. Simply put. I don't expect this type of post from Yamato as his first few posts.nvm it's the bad head of the hydra Note, that others had also requested confirmation on the hydra head for that exact same post; but did not result to discredit attempts - that was solely Yamato. So again, I can't grasp why Pandain lumped him as a town read for playing to his town meta; This is a glaring inconsistency for me. I still think Yamato is scum --> CR is scum. Vayne We know Pandain flipped scum + Harry Potter: On October 18 2013 02:21 Pandain wrote: Also I'm pretty sure that scum aren't going to be left with roles like "Voldemort". Worst roles of all time. Ron/Herminoie/Harry are probably confirmed, anyone else is fair game. Though he does not state directly that Harry Potter is town; it is inferred quite strongly. If Vayne was scum with Pandain, he would known that Pandain was Harry. On October 18 2013 02:17 VayneAuthority wrote: it is physically incapable for me to be mafia anyhow, I am one of the main characters. the one that banged harry potter. zer0 chance of me being mafia until a scum flips with a good guy name. I doubt that will happen tho. Originally, when I thought of this Vayne quote, I believed there is no way that a scum Vayne would put himself out knowing that Pandain was Harry. However, reading through this sequence of quotes, I have changed my mind. I can't find any reason why town would have those thoughts in the first place JustAnotherTownie This guy needs to step up. You aren't a scum read currently, but you are starting to verge into zone. In my opinion, you are commenting a lot of live thread discussion; but not progressing your own reads. Yes, I saw what you wrote at the start of Night 2, but I am talking about the 4-5 hrs before lynch where your posts equate to fillers. On October 22 2013 02:49 justanothertownie wrote: Fair enough. Would still be nice if you posted something from time to time. On October 22 2013 03:51 justanothertownie wrote: Game ain't easy. Syllo, is it CR/yamato? As I said I would kill this slot and with the potion/BH situation I don't like a hopeless lynch that much. On October 22 2013 05:06 justanothertownie wrote: Wow, that was sketchy. | ||
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