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On October 19 2013 02:57 I-be-Pro wrote: Got home @ 2am. okay I figured this shit out. Palmar is mafia and he's angry at everyone because he's indeed doing the right thing because Mocsta is mafia as well and they had it planned all along. But Palmar expected to get less flak so he's mad while knowing his target is mafia. My gut is always right on these things. Instead of going to bed, I decided to catch up and decide who to vote for. And then I read junk like this.... all you have been doing in the QT is ask for peoples roles and if they fit into group A or B, because your role is so damn anti-town. GTFO | ||
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I am going to re-read Cephiro now. I'm still keen on a zaragon lynch, but i can understand why no one else is. its quite a personal read. Interestingly, I got the same feeling about JAT - quite different play from Noir - but for slightly different reasons. I didn't give it too much weight, because in Noir JAT was a blue role. But as others are finding him suspicious; I will queue him up with Cephiro and lynch between those 3. Matt is looking better/more-involved currently as well- which is good. | ||
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On October 19 2013 03:03 I-be-Pro wrote: it's the not the only but one of the few explanations that's okay with palmars behavior while at the same time we have mocsta who is conveniently SAM. We're still lynching Ceph. I'm always right on my gutfeelings but no need to jinx it  Right.. how about instead of trying to throw shit at me wearing a mask. You man up and and fabricate a case. | ||
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On October 19 2013 03:08 I-be-Pro wrote: I'm just saying it's a possibility. I had you has town so far but the scumreads I have just don't line up with palmar being in their. Could be I'm wrong about a read and that's why it's not lining up but I just put it in here to state the possibility. I'm not considering lynching you based on something like that, so yes if I'll have a go at you d2 or d3 I'll make a case. I can work with that. Carry on. | ||
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Just re-read Cephiro post in detail.. its disgusting. Originally I wanted to read this post, and then read the Noir post to see if similar. But after reading the first two cases where is pushing people solely for being usesless -> I am comfortable enough to lynch this guy without reading the others. So ##Vote: Cephiro and good night. For anyone who cares (which I dobut is anyone) i spoilered what i wrote before i stopped. + Show Spoiler + Ok these are my thoughts on the following players, I am voting for one of them. I have only skimmed the therad, so hopefully this isnt regurgitation. KK Cephiro -The sole post feels heavily editted/drafted/refined. -I dont like the joke about K-Pop, again, seems like an intentional "ice-breaker". Whilst i understand the idea, I dont get why a townie would open this way.. even if they acknowledge the severity of the defense. - Apology fluff. I cant help but just want to skim it. - Setup/role fluff... is this guy a character assassin or something? - I dont like how the reads tie in with the k-pop opener.. thats a sign of very heavy construction. - Read on mattchew: I agree the filter is or *was* useless/null.. but even he admits its not pro-scum. This actually feels more like a rehash of thread observations/status quo than a read with conviction. - | ||
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On October 19 2013 03:04 Mocsta wrote: Interestingly, I got the same feeling about JAT - quite different play from Noir - but for slightly different reasons. I didn't give it too much weight, because in Noir JAT was a blue role. But as others are finding him suspicious; I will queue him up with Cephiro and lynch between those 3. On October 19 2013 03:25 justanothertownie wrote: Actually my gripe with you is that, even with much less posts than noir- you have been more forthcoming this game. (ironic i know)As I said. You can't compare my Day1 play to Noir because I simply did not have any time until now. Further the content is on a different tangent to noir. i feel very strongly about this, even with a quick skim of your filter now. noir felt like you were holding something back.. which i later proved was the case. i think that read ascended above you being a blue role. i.e. i think the mindset would largely hold if you were green this game. short story is: so far im not getting that feeling about you, which makes me have reservations about you. i.e. You need to start contributing more. | ||
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On October 19 2013 03:33 Cephiro wrote: you better be town.1500% useless? Yeah, I try to post once and all I do is get shit for not having posted a thousand times. Not like your one-liners are any better. Motivates me a fuckton when there were several others doing jack shit, but if I don't have the time to post every 5 minutes I'm scum. That's the worst meta shit ever. At the moment I'm sorry to the hosts but I really don't give a flying fuck about trying to defend myself against random bs. I haven't read all the new pages yet but I assume it's some more "his post looks constructed or similar to noir, must be scum" bs. I wish it wasn't against the spirit of the game but I really feel like signing up for every game possible, posting only once a day as town until you guys realize that's not "metagaming". i abhor appeals like this.. even moreso as scum. almost warning worthy if scum; as this transcends the gentleman rules of play. | ||
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On October 19 2013 03:48 Sn0_Man wrote: Well at least ur posting Ceph. I've been discussing the claim with Toad in QT and it does kinda seem like the claim is better for mafia than for town, so I can see why palmar feels like a Policy lynch is reasonable here. However I'm not with it because if he is town he is doing what I would have done (claimed SAM). Are you trying to argue that this makes palmar scum? Well the stupid thing is. Palmar gives two reasons why I could claim. Eitehr low confidence as town; or scum for amazing benefits. When in my response to him, i indicated I had low confidence. I got fuckn railed during Noir for poor play. So yes, confidence was low 48hrs ago. Not so anymore. I can agree with him. If i felt the way I do now; I probably wouldnt have claimed. Its moot anyways. As I said to Toad in the QT/thread. Judge me for how I am acting this game. If you think I am pushing a scum agenda, build a case. Same goes for Palmar. I suppose he at least has the balls to call it a policy lynch, and nothing more. | ||
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On October 19 2013 03:52 Cephiro wrote: The thing is, as far as I know, we're playing Mafia, not "Post-the-most". I think I did a fairly reasonable post that can be seen as a genuine town interest in the game. I explained my own opinions, statements and behavior, as well as gave some reads and reasoning to them. I do agree the less content to go by, the harder it is to read. But I also think that little, contentful posts are better than constantly posting useless fluff. But it seems that someone wanted to paint it as fluff, and what would be easier for scum after seeing a good post to just ignore it completely, claiming it as fluff = Leaving that person looking like he has done nothing at all. I dont have a problem you posted once. People get busy. I have a problem that you came in and blew big smoke with a massive post; some to explain the QT stuff (fair enough) and then the reads. The reads were all essentially: this person has done nothing/useless. I dont believe any indicated why that uselessness was indicative of a scum mindset. Further, what *REALLY* bugs me (Aside from the appeal to hosts previously) was the addition of K-Pop as ice-breaker to your post which was then re-hashed as a backstory to how your reads developed. That is some really stinky stuff that reeks of heavy fabrication and manipulation. 2 things that a townie would need feel the requirement to cater for on a D1 defense post identifying the "real scum". | ||
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On October 19 2013 04:00 Holyflare wrote: This is NOTHING to do with meta. He posted 1 post at the time, cast suspicion on people that already had suspicion on themselves, he posted a few other names that were not mentioned by anyone else but then never followed up on them. Half of his post was explaining himself Rayn made an excellent point: Here about it. ^ THIS. Hits the nail on the head. Anyhow, Cephiro is starting to get some resistance which is good. If he flips scum, I suppose the next job will be to find out if these are townies with wet feet, or scummers trying to avoid a scum lynch. | ||
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On October 19 2013 04:08 Sn0_Man wrote: SuperSoft and Skanjab1s were pushing a mislynch pretty hard about 4 hours before lynch. And im not willing to vote either of them today. Im going to re-read Noir now, because Cephiro seems to have some genuine emotion. I suppose scum have genuine emotion to avoid lynch as well; but I will double-check how he responded in the same situation. Seriously, I could get so down on a zaragon lynch though. | ||
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071¤tpage=129#2565 Is it just me.. or is teh structure identical? Full filter: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&user=Cephiro&view=all | ||
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On October 19 2013 04:13 justanothertownie wrote: It would be pretty bold because they would need to pull a miracle defense and if it fails they would look really really bad. You could argue there should have been someone defending him way earlier though. Are you inferring Palmar? | ||
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this is so de ja vu http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=20004765 Thats where i saw it. Very similar to how he talks about Palmar and then Syllo. Note: Kush was scum and JAT was town... does this mean palmar is scum and syllo town? This is really freaky the similarity.. my vote isn't moving. | ||
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On October 19 2013 04:16 justanothertownie wrote: I reread Hopeless and am way less convinced than yesterday. If someone is interested in my reasoning I can post it but since he obviously won't be lynched I think this should be postponed for now. ##Vote: Cephiro Yes pls. More insight --> better read on you. | ||
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On October 19 2013 03:24 Cephiro wrote: I really don't like this threat...... Yeah great. I see I have 1h 30 min and people are forcing a mislynch on me. Fucking amazing. I'm getting tired of this shit, it's like if I don't post every 5 minutes like in some games I previously have I'm scum. Well, at least you'll perhaps finally understand not to meta me. Go ahead and lynch one of the main characters. -_- The gap analysis is to assume its a "good" main character.. but its not actually stated at all. Sigh.. reading the Noir filter, hes a fair bit more involved in that game trying to save himself from the noose. But the structure of some posts is so identical its uncanny. Oddly enough, I try to replicate my town structure as scum... whereas, hes replicating his scum structure? + the rationale of his scum cases in Noir, have a similar rationale to this game. "useless filters devoid of pro-town elements" The only thing that holds me back about Cephiro is that hes taking a more martyr route this course as opposed to Noir where he was actively trying to divert the lynch. Its not a hold back enough to stop teh lynch though. Im happy with this, and am now goign to bed. 3.30am. ciao. | ||
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On October 19 2013 04:24 justanothertownie wrote: So thats some sort of post from yesterday or whatever? And now you dont interpret the quotes the same way?That's what I was going to write: + Show Spoiler + On October 17 2013 07:49 Hopeless1der wrote: (From phone) Re: gracks indifference to the item. I think he is of the opinion that the houses are just a flavor thing and that we have no real way to manipulate the item/contest to benefit town by getting it all for his self. Assuming town>scum in each house the overall effect should be the same, no? Who cares if townie A or townie B gets it? I still think this is weird. As I said before gracks behaviour is perfectly fine in my opinion so that's not the problem but hopeless just jumps in and defends him. He just takes a wild guess at gracks motivation without letting the guy explain it himself. In what way does that make sense as town? On October 17 2013 09:05 Hopeless1der wrote: That's literally the point of the game. Skanj, take this as an opportunity to take a break for a bit. I think you're being overwhelmed right now and youre on tilt. You are not fostering productive discussions. Then there is this. As far as I know you can read people more easily when they get emotional invested so why would you tell him to step back if you are interested in learning about his alignment? On October 17 2013 22:47 Hopeless1der wrote: Toad is talking about Fruity and/or BangBang mafia. marv's comment was fruity iirc, but both of them were smurfs. Weird game, that one. skanj, re your (Case on Yamato post), I have no problem with Yamato's vote. The fact that he has refrained from voting his "FoS's" is more town oriented. He's maintaining a level head while communicating his reads and intentions. Like getting Vayne to man the fuck up and play properly. VA comes in, attempts to namehunt mocsta and trolls Yam a bit before peacing out. I wouldn't stand for that shit if it happened to me, why should anyone have to deal with it? I don't think Yam particularly wants to lynch VA over it, but I think he's willing to go through with it if VA doesn't shape up. He has my full support if this is the case. ##Vote: VayneAuthority This is really really bad. First I think Vayne is known for trolling/being useless as town (especially Day1). This is a useless policy vote and I can't remember seeing a game where Vayne trolled like that as scum. Since that he only came in the thread to switch to Cephiro - the only strong wagon. He basically avoided trying to find scum and instead went on about policies the whole game while actually being in the thread. I realize that this is pretty much it. I really thought I saw some more things I didn't like yesterday but I couldn't find them again today. | ||
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On October 19 2013 04:26 raynpelikonoshi wrote: That's what i have been fucking saying all the time. -rayn But.. too-dumb-to-be-scum... why the fuck would you do a literal carbon copy.. when so many players from Noir are in this game. I dont mean to exaggerate/be too rude, but if scum.. this almost can be nominated for worst mafia play of 2013. | ||
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