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Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
October 25 2013 23:00 GMT
#4354
##vote: 24 hour day cycle
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
October 25 2013 23:35 GMT
#4356
quick question, is rayn or hopeless confirmed town?
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
October 25 2013 23:45 GMT
#4361
On October 26 2013 08:35 Holyflare wrote:
Not confirmed, but pretty much. Why?


So neither rayn nor hopeless are confirmed? So the potion man could be a scum role as well?
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
October 26 2013 00:04 GMT
#4370
Firstly, I am definitely the best lynch for today. Lynch me, don't need to debate it. Next thing, you can feel free to ignore the rest of this post until I flip. Doesn't do a lot of good right now.

So assuming that roleblock negates kp, and with 3 scum, that is 1.5kp right? Last night BH and I were rbed. Since I'm town, even if BH was mafia and he got rbed, then there would still be 1 mafia kp. That has to mean the the medic save worked, and BH is the only one who claimed medic. Sn0 the vengeant medic would have killed scum if his action worked. So that confirms BH as town, does it not? Well at least from my perspective, I have to flip for you guys to know it too.

Anyways, Ima try to see how the game plays out:

Using Sn0's role list, this is the setup for today

On October 26 2013 03:35 Sn0_Man wrote:
no list buuuuut.
Sn0_Man - Vengeant Medic, confirmed
Grackaroni - VT unconfirmed
raynpelikonoshi - Candyman, at least partially confirmed
Onegu - No claim
syllogism - IC, also some sort of JAT. IC part confirmed
Skanjab1s - No claim
Blazinghand - Medic. Unconfirmed.
Mocsta - Miller/JAT. Unconfirmed except for roleblock claim on BH
justanothertownie - "random" roles, un-countered Vig claim.
Hopeless1der - Potion man. Confirmed
Holyflare - Extra vote. Unconfirmed.
Chairman Ray - VT. Unconfirmed.


So it's 9 town 3 mafia. The best thing for us to do today is to lynch me off, which will confirm Onegu as scum and BH as town. So post lynch, this will be the setup

On October 26 2013 03:35 Sn0_Man wrote:
no list buuuuut.
Sn0_Man - Vengeant Medic, confirmed
Grackaroni - VT unconfirmed
raynpelikonoshi - Candyman, at least partially confirmed
Onegu No claim
syllogism - IC, also some sort of JAT. IC part confirmed
Skanjab1s - No claim
Blazinghand - Medic. Unconfirmed.
Mocsta - Miller/JAT. Unconfirmed except for roleblock claim on BH
justanothertownie - "random" roles, un-countered Vig claim.
Hopeless1der - Potion man. Confirmed
Holyflare - Extra vote. Unconfirmed.
Chairman Ray - VT. Unconfirmed.


Kay, so during the nightphase, it will be 8 vs 3. Let's say mafia gets a kill. 7 vs 3. Next day we lynch Onegu. 7 vs 2. Mafia kills one. 6 vs 2. There are 5 unconfirmed in the bunch with 2 mafia in them. We know that there is one mafia within hufflepuff. So conversely that means there is one mafia outside of hufflepuff. That has to be either skan or rayn. So worst case scenario, we take 2 more days to lynch off the scum. Next lynch 5 vs 2. Night 4 vs 2. Lynch 4 vs 1. Night 3 vs 1. We have two medics alive (BH and Sn0), and as long as they keep healing each other, then out of the 4 people left, 2 are confirmed town who are medics. So worst case scenario from there it takes 2 days to kill the last guy. Lynch results in 2 vs 1. Mafia can't do shit against two medics, so the next day town wins.

So in short, this is what we can do to guarantee a victory:

1. Lynch me today, I flip town, confirming Onegu as mafia and BH as town
2. During night, BH and Sn0 use their medic abilities on each other
3. Lynch Onegu tomorrow
4. Lynch every unconfirmed town one by one, who cares about reads, the math is in our favor
5. As long as neither BH and Sn0 die to lynches, town wins I think
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
October 26 2013 00:43 GMT
#4375
On October 26 2013 09:04 Chairman Ray wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Firstly, I am definitely the best lynch for today. Lynch me, don't need to debate it. Next thing, you can feel free to ignore the rest of this post until I flip. Doesn't do a lot of good right now.

So assuming that roleblock negates kp, and with 3 scum, that is 1.5kp right? Last night BH and I were rbed. Since I'm town, even if BH was mafia and he got rbed, then there would still be 1 mafia kp. That has to mean the the medic save worked, and BH is the only one who claimed medic. Sn0 the vengeant medic would have killed scum if his action worked. So that confirms BH as town, does it not? Well at least from my perspective, I have to flip for you guys to know it too.

Anyways, Ima try to see how the game plays out:

Using Sn0's role list, this is the setup for today

On October 26 2013 03:35 Sn0_Man wrote:
no list buuuuut.
Sn0_Man - Vengeant Medic, confirmed
Grackaroni - VT unconfirmed
raynpelikonoshi - Candyman, at least partially confirmed
Onegu - No claim
syllogism - IC, also some sort of JAT. IC part confirmed
Skanjab1s - No claim
Blazinghand - Medic. Unconfirmed.
Mocsta - Miller/JAT. Unconfirmed except for roleblock claim on BH
justanothertownie - "random" roles, un-countered Vig claim.
Hopeless1der - Potion man. Confirmed
Holyflare - Extra vote. Unconfirmed.
Chairman Ray - VT. Unconfirmed.


So it's 9 town 3 mafia. The best thing for us to do today is to lynch me off, which will confirm Onegu as scum and BH as town. So post lynch, this will be the setup

On October 26 2013 03:35 Sn0_Man wrote:
no list buuuuut.
Sn0_Man - Vengeant Medic, confirmed
Grackaroni - VT unconfirmed
raynpelikonoshi - Candyman, at least partially confirmed
Onegu No claim
syllogism - IC, also some sort of JAT. IC part confirmed
Skanjab1s - No claim
Blazinghand - Medic. Unconfirmed.
Mocsta - Miller/JAT. Unconfirmed except for roleblock claim on BH
justanothertownie - "random" roles, un-countered Vig claim.
Hopeless1der - Potion man. Confirmed
Holyflare - Extra vote. Unconfirmed.
Chairman Ray - VT. Unconfirmed.


Kay, so during the nightphase, it will be 8 vs 3. Let's say mafia gets a kill. 7 vs 3. Next day we lynch Onegu. 7 vs 2. Mafia kills one. 6 vs 2. There are 5 unconfirmed in the bunch with 2 mafia in them. We know that there is one mafia within hufflepuff. So conversely that means there is one mafia outside of hufflepuff. That has to be either skan or rayn. So worst case scenario, we take 2 more days to lynch off the scum. Next lynch 5 vs 2. Night 4 vs 2. Lynch 4 vs 1. Night 3 vs 1. We have two medics alive (BH and Sn0), and as long as they keep healing each other, then out of the 4 people left, 2 are confirmed town who are medics. So worst case scenario from there it takes 2 days to kill the last guy. Lynch results in 2 vs 1. Mafia can't do shit against two medics, so the next day town wins.

So in short, this is what we can do to guarantee a victory:

1. Lynch me today, I flip town, confirming Onegu as mafia and BH as town
2. During night, BH and Sn0 use their medic abilities on each other
3. Lynch Onegu tomorrow
4. Lynch every unconfirmed town one by one, who cares about reads, the math is in our favor
5. As long as neither BH and Sn0 die to lynches, town wins I think


EDIT: Wait, I made a mistake. If BH was roleblocked last night, then he couldn't have use a medic save on anybody. Without that medic save, I don't know how nobody died last night.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
October 26 2013 01:29 GMT
#4378
On October 26 2013 09:29 Grackaroni wrote:
CR, it's interesting how you are taking the red check on Ravenclaw as a 100% factual and not the red check on Gryffindor.


Yeah I guess you're right. My flip doesn't guarantee Onegu...

Hmm, I might have to reconsider
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
October 26 2013 01:30 GMT
#4379
Yeah to be honest, I don't have a good grasp of who could be mafia. My flip probably wouldn't do much good for town either.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
October 26 2013 01:31 GMT
#4380
Well, I'm gonna have to be out for tonight, and possibly tomorrow, so guess that's gg for me. I'm leaving my vote on 24 hour day so no more time is wasted. Sorry I couldn't be more active or helpful. You guys are definitely all very strong mafia players. My lynch is entirely my bad, so even though I flip town, you guys made the best decision, and if I was anybody else, I probably would have lynched me as well. ggwp ^^
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
October 26 2013 21:01 GMT
#4427
Question for BH and Sn0, are you guys allowed to use your powers on yourself, or on the same person two nights in a row?
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
November 03 2013 07:20 GMT
#5832
Yo! Koshi just sent me an apology. Wasn't necessary since I thought his comment was completely justified and I wasn't at all offended by it. But I think Koshi is a fine gentleman now ^^.

So anyways, sorry I wasn't able to be very active this game. I told the hosts that I was only able to play an hour a day, and I guess we thought it was better than nothing. I was going to spend that hour a day catching up on the thread, but the day I replaced in, I was somehow already getting lynched. Even though I was leading in votes, the secret vote saved me last second. Afterwards people were calling for a vig on me. I was under the impression that I was either going to die during the night or get lynched the day after, so if I only have an hour a day, I'm not gonna be able to read the entire thread before I die, so I would rather just use that hour to find some way to save myself. My plan was basically to play really shitty town. Do things like not interact with people and martyr over and over again. Since there were only strong players left and being mafia meant that I would have two mafia teammates, there were no two people here that would let me play like this. After being a bit useless, or martyring once, the two other mafia would give me a verbal spanking and get me to play better. Nobody would allow me to martyr again and again. I was hoping this would be picked up and people would let me slip by as shitty town rather than scum. I guess I didn't play it very well and it didn't work out. Oh well. Fun game overall though, and I loved the challenges.

I'll definitely be back after a couple months when my schedule clears up a bit since mafia is quite fun. GG!
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