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On October 17 2013 23:46 Hopeless1der wrote:
LA, any comment on my supposed town mentality when it comes to policy?
What supposed town mentality? You've simply asserted that magically you now like policy lynching having been staunchly against it previously in your town career.
On October 17 2013 23:29 Hopeless1der wrote:
quotes that are literally MONTHS ago, and I've taken a rather long break from mafia. My stance on policy votes can't have changed? Not only that, but the first quote was in regards to a specific player, simply for existing (grush). For the 2nd quote, pressure =\= policy.
This even misrepresents your own quotation, as the quotation in question clearly puts you against policy lynches in general, even though it was applied to one player at the time. Reading the quotation, you are obviously talking in general terms.
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On October 17 2013 23:54 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2013 23:49 LastArgument wrote:On October 17 2013 23:46 Hopeless1der wrote:
LA, any comment on my supposed town mentality when it comes to policy? What supposed town mentality? You've simply asserted that magically you now like policy lynching having been staunchly against it previously in your town career. On October 17 2013 23:29 Hopeless1der wrote:
quotes that are literally MONTHS ago, and I've taken a rather long break from mafia. My stance on policy votes can't have changed? Not only that, but the first quote was in regards to a specific player, simply for existing (grush). For the 2nd quote, pressure =\= policy. This even misrepresents your own quotation, as the quotation in question clearly puts you against policy lynches in general, even though it was applied to one player at the time. Reading the quotation, you are obviously talking in general terms. Do you really think that two posts in different contexts mean that he always has to be against policy lynches? Even if it hinted at that, couldn't he change? Why are you voting him, is it just for that.
I suggest you read my filter.
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On October 17 2013 23:59 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2013 23:54 LastArgument wrote:On October 17 2013 23:54 Pandain wrote:On October 17 2013 23:49 LastArgument wrote:On October 17 2013 23:46 Hopeless1der wrote:
LA, any comment on my supposed town mentality when it comes to policy? What supposed town mentality? You've simply asserted that magically you now like policy lynching having been staunchly against it previously in your town career. On October 17 2013 23:29 Hopeless1der wrote:
quotes that are literally MONTHS ago, and I've taken a rather long break from mafia. My stance on policy votes can't have changed? Not only that, but the first quote was in regards to a specific player, simply for existing (grush). For the 2nd quote, pressure =\= policy. This even misrepresents your own quotation, as the quotation in question clearly puts you against policy lynches in general, even though it was applied to one player at the time. Reading the quotation, you are obviously talking in general terms. Do you really think that two posts in different contexts mean that he always has to be against policy lynches? Even if it hinted at that, couldn't he change? Why are you voting him, is it just for that. I suggest you read my filter. Well if you want to convince me to vote for him, then lay it on the line. I only see that you think he should always value suspicions over policy lynches.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=431052¤tpage=29#573
I'm interested to hear anyone's opinion on it really.
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On October 18 2013 00:08 Hopeless1der wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On October 17 2013 23:51 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2013 23:49 LastArgument wrote:On October 17 2013 23:46 Hopeless1der wrote:
LA, any comment on my supposed town mentality when it comes to policy? What supposed town mentality? You've simply asserted that magically you now like policy lynching having been staunchly against it previously in your town career. On October 17 2013 23:29 Hopeless1der wrote:
quotes that are literally MONTHS ago, and I've taken a rather long break from mafia. My stance on policy votes can't have changed? Not only that, but the first quote was in regards to a specific player, simply for existing (grush). For the 2nd quote, pressure =\= policy. This even misrepresents your own quotation, as the quotation in question clearly puts you against policy lynches in general, even though it was applied to one player at the time. Reading the quotation, you are obviously talking in general terms. Okay LA, lets try again. From the same quote: Show nested quote +On January 03 2013 07:12 Hopeless1der wrote:On January 03 2013 07:04 Lazermonkey wrote:
So, anyone feel like policy lynching grush just for the lulz? He is going to troll the game 24/7 no matter what alignment he gets... I will have nothing to do with a policy lynch on any specific player. If a player warrants such treatment, they shouldn't be allowed to play in the first place. You may not like grush's playstyle, but I don't find it entirely devoid of reason or thinking. I am willing to go after lurkers, but that's about as far as I am concerned with policy.@wbg voters: dafuq? See the red. Your rebuttal? LastArgument, you've ignored this.
Because it's a silly line of questioning. I'll probably be looking elsewhere than you for now though, don't really feel like explaining why.
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I can't think of an occasion in the last however long that a self-aware miller didn't claim on Day 1.
And they were certainly never lynched for it.
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On October 18 2013 01:13 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Hi guys!
I like this. There are many townies like:
Holyflare, Pandain, yamato, Vayne, syllogism, supersoft, skanjab, Toad. Dunno if i missed someone.
Then Koshi put our vote on the wrong place.
##Unvote:
##Vote: Cephiro
This guy is not getting away with same shit he did in Noire for 3 days.
-rayn
This seems directly at odds with your partner. Care to explain?
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On October 18 2013 01:19 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2013 00:52 LastArgument wrote:
I can't think of an occasion in the last however long that a self-aware miller didn't claim on Day 1.
And they were certainly never lynched for it. Mattchew was lynched...about a year ago due to a self-aware claim day1. Sidenote, get your vote off me or re-explain why im scum.
No, I'm enjoying annoying you by leaving my vote on you.
Mattchew was mafia in a game which didn't have self-aware millers, confirmable by the host. Not really a comparable circumstance.
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On October 18 2013 02:46 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
So Cephiro has now made 4 posts in house QT. One was a setup speculation post that he could have posted in thread aswell. Three other posts are attacking me and Pandain for calling him out for posting in QT but not in thread (Cephiro posted twice as much in scum QT than in thread in Noir). What gives?
-rayn
I've been toying with this vote for a while, good enough for me.
##Unvote
##Vote: Cephiro
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On October 18 2013 03:22 Stutters695 wrote:
Last time I played with Palmar was YANMM or LX or some big game where he argued really strongly in favor of policy lynching a claimed SAM in similar circumstances as town.
I'd like to see him contribute more, but as of now, I think his frustration is genuine.
Um, how would you expect him to behave as mafia in this situation?
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Not at a PC right now, super
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On October 18 2013 05:05 Pandain wrote:
He's been making posts I really like in thread.
He got super frustrated with me and Rayn for reasons I can see and appreciate now, and would have to have been a forced mindset if he was scum. Took it really personal.
Apparently he was just too busy in life and didn't want to make a post yet in thread. QTs were more relaxed to him and a post in the thread would have been too definitive a statement when he wasn't really sure on everything going on.
I'm pretty surprised at the plethora of people voting him who aren't in Gryffindor as he hasn't said anything then, right?
You were on his team in LXII, correct? Browsing his filter there he does a nice line in righteous complaining, and little else. In fact it looks like he complained about being busy in life in that game too. What is the difference between that game and what he's doing in the QT?
Also explain to me why a townie would be worried about making a 'definitive statement' or worry about how they look generally in this thread?
Your explanations actually seem to incriminate him more, not less, so if you're somehow convinced he's town, you're not explaining it very well.
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On October 18 2013 05:24 Pandain wrote:
My reasoning is that he has defended himself enough in a genuine and logical fashion to justify him not being lynched today. If he starts to suck in thread and therefore become suspicious, then we can lynch him. Today is not going to be that day unless he posts that he's scum or something.
This is nowhere near good enough reasoning, and I don't trust your judgement enough to even consider deferring to you.
If Cephiro is town, he can come and demonstrate it; otherwise he can die.
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Palmar, are you actually going to do nothing all day while you wait for a sleeping Australian?
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On October 18 2013 05:32 Pandain wrote:
Why don't you think Palmar warrants a lynch?
Primarily because it's impossible to tell right now (for me at least) whether this behaviour comes from town or mafia Palmar. Palmar has towngames where he does next to nothing for large chunks of Day 1 (he's even been lynched for it).
Cephiro is literally avoiding this thread by being scared to make a statement of himself and whining from what I understand. The Cephiro in Liar Game, for example, would not be scared of posting in the game thread.
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On October 18 2013 06:16 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2013 06:13 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
But Grack, Palmar is probably town...
-rayn It's possible. I could see him making the posts he's made as either alignment. His overall apathy towards the game is more indicative of a scum Palmar.
No, not really.
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No, you have no idea what you're talking about.
Scum-Palmar isn't usually this brazen about not participating. I challenge you to find a single game where he basically starts off by happily telling people he's not read the thread and maybe he'll participate, maybe not.
Doesn't make him town, but your argument is a bad one.
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They're quite often correct actually, but nice soundbite anyway.
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That post from Cephiro looks ok. Probably enough for him to live today, pending him actually doing other things later as well.
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On October 18 2013 07:08 raynpelikonoshi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2013 07:06 LastArgument wrote:
That post from Cephiro looks ok. Probably enough for him to live today, pending him actually doing other things later as well. Remind me to talk about this tomorrow if i forget. There is something i need to check regarding his post. -rayn
Okay, I should remember.
Mattchew looks more disconnected than his filter does in LXII. The suspicion on him seems warranted.
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