EPTMocsta's tone is definitely protown, even if you don't like the logic.
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Hopeless1der
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Mocsta's tone is definitely protown, even if you don't like the logic. | ||
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On October 17 2013 09:02 Skanjab1s wrote: Please tell me how any read whatsoever could be divulged from the information that he shared? That's literally the point of the game. Skanj, take this as an opportunity to take a break for a bit. I think you're being overwhelmed right now and youre on tilt. You are not fostering productive discussions. | ||
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On October 17 2013 09:03 LastArgument wrote: Again, mafia will have this information already barring exceptional circumstances and town will not. I don't understand your point. My point is that mocsta is right, you don't donate information you don't need to. Closed setups and contests and whatnot. I gave a poor example, but it demonstrates a case where information can be used against us. | ||
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Town side of null. Small concern about refusal to comment, but I expect something soon from him. | ||
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skanj, re your (Case on Yamato post), I have no problem with Yamato's vote. The fact that he has refrained from voting his "FoS's" is more town oriented. He's maintaining a level head while communicating his reads and intentions. Like getting Vayne to man the fuck up and play properly. VA comes in, attempts to namehunt mocsta and trolls Yam a bit before peacing out. I wouldn't stand for that shit if it happened to me, why should anyone have to deal with it? I don't think Yam particularly wants to lynch VA over it, but I think he's willing to go through with it if VA doesn't shape up. He has my full support if this is the case. ##Vote: VayneAuthority | ||
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On October 17 2013 22:50 LastArgument wrote: So to be clear, you're policy lynching Vayne? Yes. | ||
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On October 17 2013 22:56 LastArgument wrote: You repeatedly attacked Skanjab, saying he was scummy, with no indication that any of this suspicion has abated. Why are you policy lynching Vayne when you find another player suspicious? Because I'm more concerned about the toxic nature of town's on TL in general than my initial gutread on D1 of a closed theme game. I also was the one who asked skanj to take a break because he looked like he was digging himself into a scummier hole to me, and it felt too easy. Since coming back he's got a case on yamato, albeit one that I think is wrong. He still gets points for trying. @Skannj the hosts came in and gave a votecount, which included Yam's vote on VA. There has been no evidence that VA has done anything more than be a dick to Yamato and it has been completely unprovoked (as far as what I see in this thread). I count that as trolling, and I don't want it in my town. To your "testing the waters" comment, here is yamato's recent filter from noir. Read the first 2-3 pages of that and let me know how you feel please. | ||
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On October 17 2013 23:10 LastArgument wrote: Just to be completely clear, Hopeless - you don't have any specific scumreads at the moment? Nothing that I'd be confident in any case I tried to make, no. skanj is still my strongest read, but thats a relative term. I'd rather lynch VA with his jokes to see yamato squirm at this point. | ||
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On October 17 2013 23:21 LastArgument wrote: Here's my issue with this. And there are two. Firstly, you've said this as town before: You've also said this as town: Your attitude doesn't seem to tally with how you view the game when you play town. ##Vote: Hopeless1der quotes that are literally MONTHS ago, and I've taken a rather long break from mafia. My stance on policy votes can't have changed? Not only that, but the first quote was in regards to a specific player, simply for existing (grush). For the 2nd quote, pressure =\= policy. | ||
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On October 17 2013 23:31 Skanjab1s wrote: I am your strongest scumread? You told me to cool off, because you thought I was getting overwhelmed and it seemed "too easy". This implies that you had a town read on me, obviously. You then give me additional "points" for the case I made. And now I am a scumread of yours? I'm sorry but I don't follow this faulty logic of yours, please explain. False: The implication of asking you to cool off is that I'm second guessing myself. It was still a scum read, but in the last game I played, I got too nitpicky and then tunneled a fellow townie rather unproductively. I'd rather lay off for a bit, cool off myself and see what you come back with. Your response to my request to read Yamato's filter looks like a tunneled townie who insists on being right, which is kind of what I expected. On October 17 2013 23:41 yamato77 wrote: Well, at least this idiotic push if me gives me a read on you. Well don't keep us in suspense....he's 3-headed Fluffy isnt he | ||
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On October 17 2013 23:49 LastArgument wrote: What supposed town mentality? You've simply asserted that magically you now like policy lynching having been staunchly against it previously in your town career. This even misrepresents your own quotation, as the quotation in question clearly puts you against policy lynches in general, even though it was applied to one player at the time. Reading the quotation, you are obviously talking in general terms. Okay LA, lets try again. From the same quote: On January 03 2013 07:12 Hopeless1der wrote: I will have nothing to do with a policy lynch on any specific player. If a player warrants such treatment, they shouldn't be allowed to play in the first place. You may not like grush's playstyle, but I don't find it entirely devoid of reason or thinking. I am willing to go after lurkers, but that's about as far as I am concerned with policy. @wbg voters: dafuq? See the red. Your rebuttal? | ||
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On October 17 2013 23:54 Pandain wrote: Do you really think that two posts in different contexts mean that he always has to be against policy lynches? Even if it hinted at that, couldn't he change? Why are you voting him, is it just for that. LastArgument thinks he caught me with my pants down because I initially argued in favor of Mocsta wanting to withhold the house playerlists with panicked and poorly thought out reasoning and explanations. The fact that I've changed my mind shows that I'm scum trying to get out of the confrontation and sweep things under the rug hoping no one looks further. But not LA though, hes a smart cookie, that one.. | ||
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On October 17 2013 23:51 Hopeless1der wrote: Okay LA, lets try again. From the same quote: See the red. Your rebuttal? LastArgument, you've ignored this. | ||
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