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Doesn't sound like a safe way to play to me . | ||
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On October 14 2013 16:28 OdinOfPergo wrote: Makes a good point, but would it really be all that smart for scum to play risky? I don't necessarily agree with his post but I don't see it as scummy. I don't agree with this at all. How exactly is lynching a afk/lurker at this point better than taking stronger odds chance of a RNG I posted earlier better? I just don't get it. [/QUOTE] I never said we lynch anyone . let's just let people talk for a bit. | ||
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On October 14 2013 17:19 E00e wrote: Hello everyone, my first post! I think the discussion about a semi random lynch or an afk lynch was somewhat pointless because the day is still early and we might find something else to lynch on. In the rare (?) case that we dont get any information we can argue about that again. On that topic I dont think it is reasonable to immediately vote for SagaZ (who suggested afk lynch first) like istandwithmitt did. I like that GGTeMpLaR started giving thoughts about the players in this game, because ultimately we need to do that to find our lynch target. Something else we could and maybe should discuss is when the Cop should come out. Should they come out after checking X Mafia or Y Town or when they are about to be lynched, etc... We dont need to do that on the first day and I dont want to sidetrack the discussion but it is something to keep in mind for the next day or if we run out of things to talk about. I dont think anyone is sidetracked, I just think we need to talk more so we can get idea's of the active players and a direction in which to go towards . Preferably a sane one. | ||
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My own personal reads ? I don't really have confidence in anyone as of yet, I mean I know a good chunk of us are town but none of the post's here give much info (Besides mitt and playerboy going at each other . which is weird ) like i said again in a previous post we should be talking more but like E00e said we'll have a hard time finding mafia without actual evidence to back it up . So i've really got nothing so far. I'm just trying to read everyone safely and calmly. | ||
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That's my opinion on the matter. ##Vote istandwithmitt Nyx dont pressure vote, pressure voting is how mafia infiltrates peoples ranks, just explain yourself more, and be exact and absolute with your points. | ||
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Yeah I jumped on the bandwagon, because at this point mitt is no use to us as a town player, he continues to write even less then myself and he doesn't seem to care anymore, why are we keeping him around then? You're saying he's contributed more than me ? I'm doing what you asked me to do in your previous post, I gave my opinion and now i'm getting attacked again by you for the one thing you wanted me to do . | ||
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On October 16 2013 10:32 OdinOfPergo wrote: So why don't you? You complain about a lack of details. Yet you don't ask any questions. Here were my reads and reasoning, I voted for mitt because of the fact that he was written off day one with his own post's; yes admittedly they had more stronger of a case then myself but they were still bad IMO. As the day went on I started seeing the voltin votes going through, but i chose mitt in the end because he was IMO a bad town, he was playing like it and although now it's night one and he's still the same. Save us all the headaches and deal with it like we should of night SagaZ what do you think about Templar as of now ? Do you agree with his reasoning on pg 18 of why we should vote for mitt? I was assumed to be attempting to fly under the radar with the voltin votes what if i asked you the same thing, do you think you flew under the radar of suspicion, the only one here 100% town is seus, I know we'd all like to develop a town circle but it's always best to stay on your toes don't you think ? I'd also like to here from the rest of the town on SagaZ and your reads on him. Expanding my thought's later I'd like to hear the answer's first . So you actually do think that wasting a vote on Istand is a worthless vote. You're pretty much admitting to just taking the easy vote? The Nyx statement at the end was just a very brief rehashing mixed with a "Oh look, I'm helping" Nyx's one liners are the same use of Instands at this point to me. The only thing he hasn't done is post anything but them. Everything short of reading what you seriously already posted? Did you read the two and a half pages before it? "Oh his post are worse than mine" If this is true why are you still around? Why is Nyx getting the nice crumble of a supposed tip? Why do you choose mitt over Vontin? Are you trying to pull the weight off your scum buddy? I don't like this. Vonthin is a strong lynch for the town right now. You could of gone from one no poster to another. I only remember a few post that got brought up. ##vote July617 | ||
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On October 17 2013 03:57 July617 wrote: EBWOP : Fucked up on the page placement . sorry guys . Here were my reads and reasoning, I voted for mitt because of the fact that he was written off day one with his own post's; yes admittedly they had more stronger of a case then myself but they were still bad IMO. As the day went on I started seeing the voltin votes going through, but i chose mitt in the end because he was IMO a bad town, he was playing like it and although now it's night one and he's still the same. Save us all the headaches and deal with it like we should of night SagaZ what do you think about Templar as of now ? Do you agree with his reasoning on pg 18 of why we should vote for mitt? I was assumed to be attempting to fly under the radar with the voltin votes what if i asked you the same thing, do you think you flew under the radar of suspicion, the only one here 100% town is seus, I know we'd all like to develop a town circle but it's always best to stay on your toes don't you think ? I'd also like to here from the rest of the town on SagaZ and your reads on him. Expanding my thought's later I'd like to hear the answer's first . | ||
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On October 17 2013 06:57 OdinOfPergo wrote: + Show Spoiler + On October 17 2013 03:37 onlywonderboy wrote: The more I think about it, I feel like nyx has been playing a weak town rather than strong mafia. His voting was weird, but other than that he hasn't done anything particularly scummy. He hasn't given us much to work with, but that could be a symptom of being a newer player rather than hiding in the shadows (a trap I fell into my first game). You could use this as a rallying point to get a lynch going knowing he's just playing a weak town and look innocent because other people agree he didn't contribute much. I single you out because a you are active and I think a lot of people think you are pro town and thus listen to what you have to say. This is something that happened to me last game and played a big role in the towns defeat. The main problem I have with Nyx is the fact that his post lack any content. If you glance back over right before the end of day 1, I mention that I'm also not willing to lynch him for that fact. If I'm not going to assume Istand is for sure scum for the same style of posting, how can I assume it for sure on Nyx? This stops me from voting for him but I'm still going to try to get some pressure on him to step it up. I'm sure you remember the flurry of crap Istand got for this. His latest post are actually attempting to remedy this to an extent. Why can't I pressure Nyx and hope for the same? Right now especially, since people are pairing me with his lack of content. I've spent this whole game being fairly open about how and why I view players the way I do. If he had posted any sort of thoughts on why he was following me maby I wouldn't mind this as much. What else, other than probe for answers, can I do? (This doesn't mean I think very highly of either of them. Simply that I can't really deem either as for sure mafia.) + Show Spoiler + On October 17 2013 03:59 July617 wrote: EBWOP : Fucked up on the page placement . sorry guys . Here were my reads and reasoning, I voted for mitt because of the fact that he was written off day one with his own post's; yes admittedly they had more stronger of a case then myself but they were still bad IMO. As the day went on I started seeing the voltin votes going through, but i chose mitt in the end because he was IMO a bad town, he was playing like it and although now it's night one and he's still the same. Save us all the headaches and deal with it like we should of night SagaZ what do you think about Templar as of now ? Do you agree with his reasoning on pg 18 of why we should vote for mitt? I was assumed to be attempting to fly under the radar with the voltin votes what if i asked you the same thing, do you think you flew under the radar of suspicion, the only one here 100% town is seus, I know we'd all like to develop a town circle but it's always best to stay on your toes don't you think ? I'd also like to here from the rest of the town on SagaZ and your reads on him. Expanding my thought's later I'd like to hear the answer's first . Ok July, I'm going to change my perspective on this and look at it from yours. You're pushing into this from a point of "Well, I don't have any 100% scum reads, and nothing else has been posted to fully convince me of any. This being the case, I'm going to vote Istand because even if he's town he's just dead weight." I only understand this off the basis that you don't find anyone else's arguments for lynches worth following. I don't really understand why you would just ignore them then. Why not try to post critisism on them if you questioned their reasoning? Wouldn't that be better for the town anyway? I moved on from the mitt vote, I have maintained an open thought about him getting his posting together and playing better town. | ||
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That's understandable player boy, school should always come first good luck. What's our plans as town, we're three town members down with the possibility of an SK, we need to get this day 2 Lynch correct and hit a mafia. Is there a possibility that it's not an SK and it's actually a vigi, at this point I'm not too sure myself but I don't think we should rule out any possibilitys until we're all 100% sure. I'll be away from my keyboard for most of the day, I just wanted to post some thoughts about the whole vigi / sk topic, I think it's a topic we should talk about but not get completely bogged down on, because isn't a single sk less of a threat then mafia? (correct me if I'm wrong but if there is a chance of an sk or a scared vigi shouldn't we help point them to mafia so we can get two potential mafia gone for night and day 2?) | ||
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Balla I hope you've got a defense as well . | ||
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Yes but even then I don't think this game is five levels deep, (I know it's not something that should be said but we shouldn't try and over assume anything, that's how town get's lynched like day 1 (yeah I could of stopped it but i didn't and i messed up and i apologize for that, and I think lynching bad town isn't something we can afford to do anymore) , and we can't afford any more miss-lynches . Now with that said yes it could apply to wonderboy and E00e, which comes out to four potential town - Of this my read is 40 - 50 percent, not a strong number i know, but realistically speaking what if they are? What's to say that they're not, couldn't it always be a possibility? (Yes I know that isn't a safe way to play but it's the only one coming from myself that i believe in enough to post to contribute something to the game.) | ||
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On October 19 2013 07:33 Balla24 wrote: Hahaha. You turned me to pissed off to laughing and smiling fast. But still. Fuck you! ^_^ Let's look at July: this guy has less than a page of filter, with a lot of one liners. I'm reading over it now. The only hard stance he has taken was against istandwithmitt, as soon as that vote didn't go through, he backed off. After that he hasn't taken any more. All he's done is tentatively marked people as town. Remember this fishy post that Bereft originally pointed out (he completely ignored it so far): And what I pointed out before: Since then, he hasn't posted at all. It's hard to get a read on him, I know, but at least pressure him instead of me (with your vote, feel free to continue pressuring me without your vote as I'm quite sure i've made it clear I will respond to your pressure). Looking at nyx and Istandwithmitt we've got two player's who seem to like voting with the majority, this is a scary and dangerous thing simply because if mafia have intruded into your and even my own town circles all they'd need to do is post a convincing argument and then the vote get's swayed to 1 mafia and two townies (if indeed they are townies this is not the way to play and you're hurting town more than anything by playing this way.) which leaves two mafia to hide and wait to post to sway the vote. Now the simple option would be to lynch nyx or mitt and see if they flip mafia, and if they do well then we can go from there. But if they flip town, like I think they might be then we're SOL, and I'm not sure what our options as town are then . We can't afford any more town lynches people, and yes i know they have little to no context and yes the same can be said about me, but these are the only people that we can obviously see as a detriment to the town . That being said Bereft, i'l be voting ohwonderboy, simply because he's seen Istandwithmitt posting and nyx, and yet he still continues to be a yes man . People we dont need yes men ! we need thought out idea's and posts, and if nyx is an SK well then take out the person you think is strong scum and we'll lynch you if we're really convinced you are SK. I do think that SK should be used to town advantage , according to their roll they win when only town is left, so it's to there benefit to take out mafia so Nyx again if you are SK then help the town and kill a mafia tonight . Vote ohwonderboy | ||
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Balla I quoted you because you asked me what i thought , Vote ##onlywonderboy | ||
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On October 20 2013 13:02 Balla24 wrote: I'd like to wait a little longer. But while you're here. Can you explain again your thought process on the OWB vote? Why did you think that was useful? It's simple my thought was I didn't want nyx to die, I never wanted him to die but we lynched him because he was bad town . Same reason we wanted to lynch mitt, again more bad town . We can't lynch bad town anymore, we've still got an SK and mafia running around, the last thing we want to do is get bogged down in more bad town lynching . | ||
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On October 20 2013 13:36 Balla24 wrote: So why didn't you try harder to defend him? Can you expand your read on OWB please? We couldn't afford to lynch town yesterday, we got lucky because SK had to be in our favor with the mafia #s. If he hit town we are dead. I just think it's not bad town play it's him actually being mafia, his bad town play doesn't sit right . | ||
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His posting doesn't make sense . " Yeah. I certainly wish there was a lot more certainty in the vote, but what are you gonna do?" < Doesn't that sound a little strange almost like he's throwing his hands up in an attempt to look like town ? | ||
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On October 22 2013 03:44 onlywonderboy wrote: Also I realize there is nothing wrong with making a case against someone even if most people think they are town, but his reasoning is/was weak and is just him repeating the same thing over and over. Yes there is Did you not see nyx's death ? And Istandwithmitt's almost death ? Building cases against town's is to the detriment of the town itself, you're giving suspicion where there is none, and that's how you end up lynching townies when they have no business being lynched at all . | ||
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On October 22 2013 06:35 Balla24 wrote: Dude that's the whole point of the game. Scum will build cases on people regardless of whether they are town or not (bussing) to appear more town. Sorry I've been away. Bereft, can you explain why you think SK is either me or owb? Also, has anybody considered mitt as SK like I asked about in my post? He could certainly be SK: playerboy went hard on him and then he voted for playerboy, he went after GGTemplar on day2 and now he's dead. Possible trend. Balla he's not even trying to build a case. | ||
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So with that said : While i'd like to vote for onlywonderboy, i still think he's just playing frustrated town, look we're all frustrated here but we can't let that cloud our reasoning , lynching townies is a mistake people . ##Vote E00e | ||
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On October 23 2013 12:14 Umasi wrote: definitely an eternal duel. Regardless, thanks everyone for playing, this game ends as a draw between the mafia team and the town team, July617 has been defeated. OBS QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/UAsDTdDVXAe Scum QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/JmjQjaQYhDbs Seuss X WaveofShadow Coaching: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/GDUTeMStcTY If you want your coaching qt to be seen, post it yourself. I know seuss is cool with it. OWB didn't shoot night one, shot july N2, and N3. No notification was sent to july regarding his veteran status being down. Personal comments on the game: I think that the mafia team was playing pretty well all the way till GGtemplar went and died, but he was on a lot of peoples 'probably town' lists. Balla24 and SagaZ picked up the slack pretty well, and did a good job of appearing like they were trying to be active and figure things out among an inactive town. I think the game would have been even more scum favored if seuss had been shot N1, or if OWB had vigged one of the lynchbaity townies, because they'd just get in the way. At least, I personally would have shot to get rid of ???marks, even at the risk of killing town. Then again, I'm not very experienced myself, and hosting doesn't give me a bell of clarity :<< Lonemeow posted setup properly. Lonemeow did a lot of things properly! Everyone should fucking love Lonemeow for being so on point with the vote counts, made my job of hunting qts and answering questions really simple! Thanks everyone for playing and go sign up for number 50! Veteran Status ? GG to all, Sorry if my play style wasn't to people's liking , I played the game the way I thought would win and I had fun doing it . I hope to do some more mafia games so everyone can see me as a legit town rather than what I was this game . http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/U2uXikp7QY4i Blazinghands Coach | ||
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On October 23 2013 16:32 Blazinghand wrote: I would like to take all credit for july's excellent play. Even though he's the only guy in this entire game who lost, I consider him the moral victor here e: also "stop being a guy pretending to be a doctor and instead be a doctor" is amazing advice! Is there an award for moral victory? Thanks Coach ^_^ , having never played SK before you gave me allot of great advice and i couldn't have made it this far without you . My hat's off to you blazing, thanks again for coaching me. | ||
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On October 24 2013 04:05 GGTeMpLaR wrote: I was afraid the entire game this post early on would come back to bite me lol SK why did you shoot me btw? I shot you out of pure luck I had no reads I was just going with my gut :p | ||
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On October 24 2013 07:36 Umasi wrote: that is so boring! Blazinghand was like 'try to shoot scum tonight' and you immediately just ##shoot ggtemplar like 'woaaaaaah' Well I knew i had to shoot mafia for town to keep going, and the only person I didn't get a town read from was GG temp, so Bang down he went . | ||
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