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@GGTemplar
You're line of reasoning has me as the most probable mafia read along side Balla. You call me a strong mafia read by the process of elimination but is it really so strong? Even if i am the most probable mafia the actual probability could be low. You even had me as a light town read on day 1. So this is solely based on day 2.
Contrary to that you are very very convinced of nyx making nyx a more secure kill.
What is the information you would get out of my death? What will change for you if come out as town or mafia?
I dislike that my defense so far is more about other people than me, maybe I can think of more.
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On October 19 2013 06:58 GGTeMpLaR wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2013 06:50 Balla24 wrote:Ugh... how the fuck is onlywonderboy being called more useful than me (no offense onlywonderboy)? All he has done is post either agreement with Seuss. Or random very unlikely scum possibilities. Now again, I'm not going to call out scum. I defend myself when asked AND i am questioning other people. The other candidates barely provide reasoning for their actions and their defenses are barely there. GGTemplar: Balla24/E00e were both in a mafia circle alongside onlywonderboy, however onlywonderboy has made what I believe to be pro-town contributions today that I noted in my previous post. Both Balla24/E00e have given me no such vibe. In fact, the only distinguishing factor between Balla24/E00e for me at this point is the quantity at which they post and give their thoughts. What pro town contributions do you think he's made? His posts on pg 28/29 read town to me.
What? His best post was in regards to finding SagaZ suspicious, and he immediately dropped his pressure on him. He follows it up with random postulating about possible options. I don't see what you see I guess. He doesn't even share his thoughts on the popular opinions.
FWIW, I do think he is town, but not for those reasons and I've shared my reasons before (i believe him to be town due to my previous experience with him, more of a feeling then any concrete evidence though). I just don't think your theory holds much weight when you ignore my contributions to town.
Also, I read E00e as town. As much shit as I gave him earlier for the cop thing and bandwagoning on me, he defended himself well. Those are the only things I had on him.
If we don't want to lynch nyx, then I'm going to put my vote on July for now (i'm definitely willing to jump back onto nyx still if we can't a consensus going). Oh and if there's ever any doubt about nyx being SK, he left his vote on me and admitted it was completely random before going to sleep.
##unvote
##vote: July617
I'm very weary at GGtemplar as well, but I don't think that's a lynch I can push atm.
July is inactive. I'm hoping for some kind of post from him before deadline so I can get a better read.
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On October 19 2013 06:57 Bereft wrote:
I don't think E00e is scum (anymore). I'd be more confident in a Balla or July vote for our mafia candidates, or nyx if we choose to go the SK route.
On October 19 2013 07:00 GGTeMpLaR wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2013 06:57 Bereft wrote:
I don't think E00e is scum (anymore). I'd be more confident in a Balla or July vote for our mafia candidates, or nyx if we choose to go the SK route. I don't like July617 for today. I would rather Balla24 or nyxnyxnyx over July617. I've given my reasons.
If you guys prefer I'll swap my vote to Balla24 for pressure/effect.
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Oh come on... you've pressured me enough already don't you think. Jesus.
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On October 19 2013 07:12 Balla24 wrote:
Oh come on... you've pressured me enough already don't you think. Jesus.
That was only the thumb vices. We haven't used the rack or the iron maiden yet.
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On October 19 2013 06:08 GGTeMpLaR wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2013 00:36 Balla24 wrote:
and wtf man... get off my back... this is the second time you've voted directly after me directly like me with very little other information.
I only wanted to use my vote as a pressure vote and you trying to start a train like this makes it hard. This looks so forced as a bus. I am more and more sure of the E00e/onlywonderboy/Balla24 circle every day. I am trying to take a step back to make sure I'm not tunnel visioning on this theory so I can be right, but I can't help noticing these connections. Hopefully they are not inspired by my confirmation bias. Show nested quote +On October 19 2013 00:39 onlywonderboy wrote:
I'm pretty suspicious of SagaZ at this point. He very well have been busy, but coming back to make one impassioned post doesn't clear him in my eyes. I'm interested to see if he's able to participate in any of the conversations going on around lynching time. That's generally where a lot of useful information comes out. Although it seems we are going pretty much all in on nyx at this point. Which, I don't have an issue voting for nyx (I think he's kind of scummy), but I don't want to start the bandwagon too early when new information may come to light. And of course I disagree with SagaZ's analysis of me. I find it so weird he can say all my posts have been useless when Seuss is claiming they are pretty good, just not a lot of them. I find it interesting they can have such different opinions on my posts. More intra-circle busing going around? Maybe, maybe not. Just note these interactions between onlywonderboy-E00e-Balla24. . . .
Why does this look "forced as a bus" ? I debunked Ballas claim that I voted after him day 1 too, and what would the purpose for mafia be in having this exchange?
I dont take part in the second quote but you have it as an example for my circle.
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And why am I even in a circle with onlywonderboy? Do we have any kind of suspicious interaction?
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On October 19 2013 07:21 Seuss wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2013 07:12 Balla24 wrote:
Oh come on... you've pressured me enough already don't you think. Jesus. That was only the thumb vices. We haven't used the rack or the iron maiden yet.
Hahaha. You turned me to pissed off to laughing and smiling fast. But still. Fuck you! ^_^
Let's look at July: this guy has less than a page of filter, with a lot of one liners. I'm reading over it now. The only hard stance he has taken was against istandwithmitt, as soon as that vote didn't go through, he backed off. After that he hasn't taken any more. All he's done is tentatively marked people as town.
Remember this fishy post that Bereft originally pointed out (he completely ignored it so far):
On October 18 2013 10:18 July617 wrote:
Sorry guys, quick post - long day, need a shower. Bereft that's a good framework of thinking, i'm just asking questions here, but if the same were said about you what's your defense to that?
Balla I hope you've got a defense as well .
And what I pointed out before:
On October 18 2013 23:58 Balla24 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2013 14:29 July617 wrote:
Nyx and mitt's voting style is going to screw with town if they are town, and my thought's are that i'm sure they are 70% town, why? Simply because of the bad voting style, would mafia (if they were) vote so poorly?
This is a contradiction in itself. If their voting styles are bad and will screw with town, then they are mafia because they aren't helping town? What? That's like saying "man this guys posting sucks and he's really not pro-town, so he's probably not scum because scum would think better". No. That's not logical. How do you hunt for scum then July, pls explain?
Since then, he hasn't posted at all. It's hard to get a read on him, I know, but at least pressure him instead of me (with your vote, feel free to continue pressuring me without your vote as I'm quite sure i've made it clear I will respond to your pressure).
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United States23745 Posts
nyx switched to balla right before he left, so it's possible to move our efforts there. That said I'd rather go nyx over balla if those are our two options. While I sympathize with nyx if he's being honest with his frustration, I'm trying not to cloud my judgement in case he's just using that as a cover. I still like July as an option. He was pressured early and he hasn't really said much as of late (no concrete defense). Also, since Balla has started the official votes on July, if he flips town it means Balla will have to defend himself or be seen as mafia.
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On October 19 2013 07:33 Balla24 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2013 07:21 Seuss wrote:On October 19 2013 07:12 Balla24 wrote:
Oh come on... you've pressured me enough already don't you think. Jesus. That was only the thumb vices. We haven't used the rack or the iron maiden yet. Hahaha. You turned me to pissed off to laughing and smiling fast. But still. Fuck you! ^_^
Just a friendly reminder that I don't think less of you, scum. :3
In the meantime I'm leaving my vote on E00e. We have about as much to gain from pressuring July617 right now as we do pressuring nyxnyxnyx.
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That's not true. You never know... he could be lurking right now scared to post. He still needs to make a vote doesn't he? Put your vote on him, you can always change it later. If he's not posting because he doesn't think there's a threat to be lynched then you need to make it clear there IS a threat for him to be lynched.
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Fair point, we have three people who don't have votes down with three hours to go. GGTeMpLaR and onlywonderboy are at least around, so I will assume you gentlemen will vote shortly.
##unvote
##vote July617
Once July617 has voted with his reasons, I'll be on hand to swap,
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I am still around if you need my vote for anything that you can convince me of.
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United States23745 Posts
##vote July617
Well then, might as well make it offical
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On October 19 2013 07:44 Seuss wrote:
Fair point, we have three people who don't have votes down with three hours to go. GGTeMpLaR and onlywonderboy are at least around, so I will assume you gentlemen will vote shortly.
##unvote
##vote July617
Once July617 has voted with his reasons, I'll be on hand to swap,
GGtemplar put his vote on E00.
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On October 19 2013 07:51 Balla24 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2013 07:44 Seuss wrote:
Fair point, we have three people who don't have votes down with three hours to go. GGTeMpLaR and onlywonderboy are at least around, so I will assume you gentlemen will vote shortly.
##unvote
##vote July617
Once July617 has voted with his reasons, I'll be on hand to swap, GGtemplar put his vote on E00.
wtb vote counter, you're right
That leaves July617 as the only absent vote for now.
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On October 19 2013 07:47 E00e wrote:
I am still around if you need my vote for anything that you can convince me of.
Can you share your opinion on July and SagaZ? You haven't mentioned them much.
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For everyone else: This isn't a waiting game. Assume we aren't going to hear from him.
Read filters, share your thoughts. POST!! What do you guys think about the 2 posts i pointed out? Pressure me if you still think i'm scum (which I know lots of people still do). Ask questions!!!~~ There's only ~2 hours left till vote.
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Umasi gets another vote count in there!
Balla24 (2): Bereft, nyxnyxnyx
nyxnyxnyx (1): Seuss, Balla24, E00e
Bereft (1): istandwithmitt
onlywonderboy (1): SagaZ
E00e (1): nyxnyxnyx, GGtemplar, Seuss
July617 (3): Balla24, Seuss, Onlywonderboy
Not voting (1): July617
Currently, July617 is set to be lynched.
to deadline. Remember, voting is mandatory!
If there are errors, please let us know.
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Man, that vote count is a mess.
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EPT
