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Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
October 18 2013 23:08 GMT
#621
So we can basically killed any of July617, E00e, nyxnyxnyx, and Balla24 at the drop of a hat.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
October 18 2013 23:10 GMT
#622
Yeah. I certainly wish there was a lot more certainty in the vote, but what are you gonna do? These are the cards we've been dealt at the moment. I've pretty comfortable with July right now, you disagree Suess?
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
October 18 2013 23:13 GMT
#623
[/b] Can you tell us what will happen to july in the hypotetical case he doesn't show up to vote? Does he get modkilled or reemplaced?
If he's going to get modkilled we're wasting our precious lynch.

Wonderboy has reasonable scum reads now that he expressed them, so I won't be voting for him.
##Unvote
##Vote: Nyxnyxnyx
Despite the fact that SK might kill a mafia at night, he is still a scum role, and we can't afford a misslynch today. With our votes all over the place and the likehood of july getting modkilled, I would not like mafia to swing our votes to another towny. They'd need very little effort for it. I'll go with safe on this one.
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
October 18 2013 23:16 GMT
#624
On October 19 2013 08:13 SagaZ wrote:
Can you tell us what will happen to july in the hypotetical case he doesn't show up to vote? Does he get modkilled or reemplaced?
If he's going to get modkilled we're wasting our precious lynch.

Wonderboy has reasonable scum reads now that he expressed them, so I won't be voting for him.
##Unvote
##Vote: Nyxnyxnyx
Despite the fact that SK might kill a mafia at night, he is still a scum role, and we can't afford a misslynch today. With our votes all over the place and the likehood of july getting modkilled, I would not like mafia to swing our votes to another towny. They'd need very little effort for it. I'll go with safe on this one.
[/b]


modkilled
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
October 18 2013 23:16 GMT
#625
If you guys have faith in me we can leave the votes as they stand, and I'll swap to either nyxnyxnyx or Balla24 before the end of the day if July617 doesn't show.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
October 18 2013 23:18 GMT
#626
That's fine by me. I'm fine with going for nyx. If july gets mod killer and flips town we can focus on balla.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
October 18 2013 23:18 GMT
#627
The scary thing is, if July617 is town and gets modkilled the game could easily be over. There are only 6 townies left, and with some bad luck we could lose 4!
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
October 18 2013 23:20 GMT
#628
That sucks, but there's not much we can do about that :/
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
E00e
Profile Joined January 2011
88 Posts
October 18 2013 23:29 GMT
#629
There are 10 people alive.
3 Mafia
1 SK
6 Town

If the SK is lynched correctly and Mafia kills a town at night and there are no saves the town will have to lynch correctly every day:
Day 3 starts with: 5 town - 3 mafia
4: 4 - 2
5: 3 - 1

If the same happens but July as town gets modkilled the town ALSO has to lynch correctly.
Day3 starts with: 4 town - 3 mafia
4: 3 - 2
5: 2 - 1

If there are no medic saves, the two situations are the same.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
October 18 2013 23:33 GMT
#630
The good news is I've accepted the responsibility of choosing who will live and who will die, so none of you will take the blame.

The bad news is you're trusting your fate to an Innocent Child.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Bereft
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1007 Posts
October 18 2013 23:40 GMT
#631
i just got home and will be around for the next 1.5 hours-ish.

i'm not an unreasonable guy and could be persuaded to change my vote if the case is good.
Bereft
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1007 Posts
October 18 2013 23:47 GMT
#632
also, i would much rather someone other than you take the blame. that would be more telling.

as a side note:

mods, sagaz switched his vote from OWB to nyx iirc
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
October 18 2013 23:50 GMT
#633
On October 19 2013 07:02 E00e wrote:
@GGTemplar
You're line of reasoning has me as the most probable mafia read along side Balla. You call me a strong mafia read by the process of elimination but is it really so strong? Even if i am the most probable mafia the actual probability could be low. You even had me as a light town read on day 1. So this is solely based on day 2.
Contrary to that you are very very convinced of nyx making nyx a more secure kill.

What is the information you would get out of my death? What will change for you if come out as town or mafia?

I dislike that my defense so far is more about other people than me, maybe I can think of more.


Strong or not, it's the best I have.

The information from your death would be contingent on the night kills so it's hard to say. You're actually probably right that nyxnyxnyx is a more confirmed kill at this point, I'll grant you that.

On October 19 2013 07:28 E00e wrote:
And why am I even in a circle with onlywonderboy? Do we have any kind of suspicious interaction?


The reasons for this are in the large post series I made regarding the likely mafia circles. That being said, I like that you're actually fighting back and being inquisitive. I might come to regret this, but I'm willing to go for the safer lynch today.

##Unvote

Perhaps I am being greedy in hoping that if we leave nyxnyxnyx alive tonight the mafia-SK will target each other, but I would have liked to think it would be a worth-the-risk town victory. However, you're right to point out the risks should we not kill nyxnyxnyx and we end up losing another 2 town tonight. If we don't kill nyxnyxnyx today, it's true we could win big, but we could also lose big. I think it's best for me to be risk-averse here rather than go all-in for the jackpot.

##Vote: nyxnyxnyx
July617
Profile Joined October 2013
United States72 Posts
October 19 2013 00:00 GMT
#634
On October 19 2013 07:33 Balla24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2013 07:21 Seuss wrote:
On October 19 2013 07:12 Balla24 wrote:
Oh come on... you've pressured me enough already don't you think. Jesus.


That was only the thumb vices. We haven't used the rack or the iron maiden yet.


Hahaha. You turned me to pissed off to laughing and smiling fast. But still. Fuck you! ^_^

Let's look at July: this guy has less than a page of filter, with a lot of one liners. I'm reading over it now. The only hard stance he has taken was against istandwithmitt, as soon as that vote didn't go through, he backed off. After that he hasn't taken any more. All he's done is tentatively marked people as town.

Remember this fishy post that Bereft originally pointed out (he completely ignored it so far):

Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 10:18 July617 wrote:
Sorry guys, quick post - long day, need a shower. Bereft that's a good framework of thinking, i'm just asking questions here, but if the same were said about you what's your defense to that?


Balla I hope you've got a defense as well .


And what I pointed out before:

Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 23:58 Balla24 wrote:
On October 18 2013 14:29 July617 wrote:
Nyx and mitt's voting style is going to screw with town if they are town, and my thought's are that i'm sure they are 70% town, why? Simply because of the bad voting style, would mafia (if they were) vote so poorly?


This is a contradiction in itself. If their voting styles are bad and will screw with town, then they are mafia because they aren't helping town? What? That's like saying "man this guys posting sucks and he's really not pro-town, so he's probably not scum because scum would think better". No. That's not logical. How do you hunt for scum then July, pls explain?



Since then, he hasn't posted at all. It's hard to get a read on him, I know, but at least pressure him instead of me (with your vote, feel free to continue pressuring me without your vote as I'm quite sure i've made it clear I will respond to your pressure).


Looking at nyx and Istandwithmitt we've got two player's who seem to like voting with the majority, this is a scary and dangerous thing simply because if mafia have intruded into your and even my own town circles all they'd need to do is post a convincing argument and then the vote get's swayed to 1 mafia and two townies (if indeed they are townies this is not the way to play and you're hurting town more than anything by playing this way.) which leaves two mafia to hide and wait to post to sway the vote. Now the simple option would be to lynch nyx or mitt and see if they flip mafia, and if they do well then we can go from there. But if they flip town, like I think they might be then we're SOL, and I'm not sure what our options as town are then .


We can't afford any more town lynches people, and yes i know they have little to no context and yes the same can be said about me, but these are the only people that we can obviously see as a detriment to the town . That being said Bereft, i'l be voting ohwonderboy, simply because he's seen Istandwithmitt posting and nyx, and yet he still continues to be a yes man . People we dont need yes men ! we need thought out idea's and posts, and if nyx is an SK well then take out the person you think is strong scum and we'll lynch you if we're really convinced you are SK. I do think that SK should be used to town advantage , according to their roll they win when only town is left, so it's to there benefit to take out mafia so Nyx again if you are SK then help the town and kill a mafia tonight .


Vote ohwonderboy
twitch.tv/Jjuly617
July617
Profile Joined October 2013
United States72 Posts
October 19 2013 00:00 GMT
#635
##Vote Oh Wonderboy
twitch.tv/Jjuly617
Bereft
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1007 Posts
October 19 2013 00:07 GMT
#636
woops = just realized sagaz' vote switch occurred after umasi's vote count. for some reason i thought it occurred prior.

and now Bereft comes out of left field with a vote count: [DISCLAIMER: this is not an official vote count; if there are any mistakes, i am not accountable :p ]

Balla24 (2): Bereft, nyxnyxnyx
nyxnyxnyx (2): Seuss, Balla24, E00e, SagaZ
Bereft (1): istandwithmitt
onlywonderboy (1): SagaZ, July617
E00e (0): nyxnyxnyx, GGtemplar, Seuss
July617 (3): Balla24, Seuss, Onlywonderboy

basically July you do realize that if you don't put your vote somewhere where it will matter, you're set to be lynched tonight?
Bereft
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1007 Posts
October 19 2013 00:08 GMT
#637
EBWOP -- i was missing 1 vote.

Balla24 (2): Bereft, nyxnyxnyx
nyxnyxnyx (3): Seuss, Balla24, E00e, SagaZ, GGTemplar
Bereft (1): istandwithmitt
onlywonderboy (1): SagaZ, July617
E00e (0): nyxnyxnyx, GGtemplar, Seuss
July617 (3): Balla24, Seuss, Onlywonderboy
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
October 19 2013 00:09 GMT
#638
Umm... July... why exactly did you quote my post?
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
October 19 2013 00:10 GMT
#639
Are you implying that mitt and nyx are in your town circle?
Can you clarify when you refer to "your town circle" that might have been invaded by mafia?
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
October 19 2013 00:10 GMT
#640
The fun part is he has two hours to figure out that Oh Wonderboy isn't a player.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
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