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On October 03 2013 21:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2013 21:10 Clarity_nl wrote:
That super townread on risen though.
rayn how do you feel about risen's defeatist attitude shortly after posting his case? It's weird, but coming from Risen, that's what he does. What do you find scummy in it? Like, is it more likely to come from scum "oh no, i made a bad case, when people do not comment on it i instantly go emo". Do you think Risen would do that as scum?
I think he can do it as either alignment was just curious on your take. It's an easy out for scum that would seem believable because of his recent games.
Like, yeah a giant confirmation bias case is what he does and like and it DOES remind me of GoT, I'm definitely not as confdent in risen being town as you seem to be.
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On October 03 2013 21:17 Oatsmaster wrote:
BH's vote is still on me, which is a good thing for him
Like, why do I have to quote this post and ask you what you mean.
Why can't you just say what you mean, instead.
What do you mean?
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On October 03 2013 21:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yeah i agree that he's not surely town and i would like to see more from him, especially considering what marv said about him being in Noir obs QT and not posting here. I have never seen Risen as scum but his behaviour in this game is imo similar to his towngames i have played with him. I need to look at Aperture where he said (if i remember correcty) that he was trying to help scum so he would win (as 3p).
I'm pretty sure he just did nothing at all at any point until he pushed OO (scum) hard when he decided to win with town.
He was more of a survivor role though and he didn't have to do anything, scum was already winning. Don't think there's much of a comparison.
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....and scum don't?
Do you think rayn is scum for not wanting to lynch you?
Or are you saying people who push you are town and people who have a townread on you are town?
Like... c'mon
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On October 03 2013 21:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2013 21:20 Clarity_nl wrote:On October 03 2013 21:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yeah i agree that he's not surely town and i would like to see more from him, especially considering what marv said about him being in Noir obs QT and not posting here. I have never seen Risen as scum but his behaviour in this game is imo similar to his towngames i have played with him. I need to look at Aperture where he said (if i remember correcty) that he was trying to help scum so he would win (as 3p). I'm pretty sure he just did nothing at all at any point until he pushed OO (scum) hard when he decided to win with town. He was more of a survivor role though and he didn't have to do anything, scum was already winning. Don't think there's much of a comparison. Really? This is wrong. Have you even read his filter from that game? In Aperture Risen is actually really coherant and explains himself very well. I think this is something you should know as you were scum and you guys decided to even shoot him for some reason. Why did you shoot him in Aperture?
This really isn't that interesting nor relevant. We shot risen after his claim. He did nothing d1 and d2 because scum were already winning. Then he tried to lynch scum and succeeded.
There is no comparison you could make to a risen scumgame and his game in aperture.
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On October 03 2013 21:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Clarity, why exactly is your read on BH what it is? What are the good things he has done, especially early on in this game?
My read on BH this game so far has been "I dunno but he's contributing"
His activity and involvement (especially in the early hours of this cycle) gives me a slight town lean on him but it's hardly anything. There are far far better lynches, though.
Now excuse me while I drown in Holyflare's post
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Leave innocent holyflare alone, rayn.
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Why does it feel like this cycle has been so unproductive?
I don't understand this whole rayn/holyflare thing.
rayn, hasn't holyflare voted for sloosh, who you described as scummy?
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On October 03 2013 23:16 marvellosity wrote:
rayn, just to clarify - you think Holyflare is mafia because
1) at the time that Oats unvoted, Holyflare thought it was a crock of shit
2) later on, Holyflare said he liked the fact that Oats unvoted?
That's the meat of it, right?
He never calls oats' detunnel bad though. He quoted that post because it showed that oats was sheeping you, which he thought was a crock of shit because he called you null.
@rayn Yes, he ignores oats unvoting him. Then later he says he liked it. Please explain what is scummy
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On October 04 2013 00:02 Holyflare wrote:
Now, if you can't get your head around that I'd REALLY like to discuss actual people who may be scum!?
Do you have a read on rayn after this push on you?
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I like this marv guy, he can stay.
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On October 04 2013 00:55 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2013 00:53 Clarity_nl wrote:
I like this marv guy, he can stay. You gonna stop being peripheral, babe?
I'm not sure what that word means in this context.
But I was typing up why I didn't like a rayn lynch and having issues and then saw your post.
I'm quite happy with the sloosh lynch, the holyflare/rayn thing was a bit of a drag and am now awaiting blazing's opinion on sloosh. I dunno why suddenly now people are gunning for dirk but I've talked myself into not lynching him today.
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On October 04 2013 01:16 Blazinghand wrote:
I guess I'm happier with this new more active Rayn and would be okay letting him live for a day since we need to get together into a majority in the next ~8 hours or we no-lynch. I can't really justify lynching him, even if he's pretty damn scummy, over Oats when I'll be able to get a more solid read on Rayn over time (if he's scum he'll screw up). Then again, Oats doesn't seem to be happening either. fack.
Could you condense your read on oats for us? Rather than going "welp my lynch aint happening, bummer"
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On October 04 2013 01:25 Blazinghand wrote:In any case, a sloosh lynch is a lynch for the same reason I thought rayne was a good lynch. Sloosh has been effectively inactive. Taking a look at his catch-22 filter, though, http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=417453&user=slOosh&view=all he's clearly capable of this play as town. Though, that time, he questions DP and pushes other people for info before dropping his (without case) vote. OK, so I take it back. Sloosh lynch is lynching sloosh for being sloosh imo
That leaves who for your choice of lynch? Risen?
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What is this "clarity is on my dick" malarkey that you're been going on about, blazing?
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On October 04 2013 01:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay i don't like BH at all..
I do, actually. All his recent posts produce a feeling of "forming an opinion as I'm writing" which is hard to fake.
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Saying risen didn't follow up on his case on me isn't exactly the groundbreaking discovery I was hoping for.
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On October 04 2013 01:43 Blazinghand wrote:
also where the hell has risen been anyways
The million dollar question.
According to marv he was around last night in some obs qt though.
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Dirk held up under pressure is the gist of it.
Notice how much he's posted now that there's less pressure. I also like his interactions with you, rayn.
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On October 04 2013 01:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay so, i need to decide my vote now.
I prefer Dirkzor. Clarity you are bad or scum.
I guess my other options are Risen and Sloosh?
If i should switch marv tell me now who to switch on. I trust you the most. I don't wanna lynch Risen, i don't wanna lynch Sloosh either.. because they have not been here, and i can't tell what they are gonna say when they come back (if they do).
I don't accept Oats or marv as lynch.
Which one is it? What exactly about my play do you think is bad? Solely my not-scum read on dirk?
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