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marvellosity
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marvellosity
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Clarity_nl
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On October 04 2013 05:33 slOosh wrote: Damn 20 pages since I've been gone. K, from what I've skimmed so far people don't like that I somehow switched onto clarity? That's what I said. Nothing that sticks out too much for me in Risen's case. If I see a weak case, then I'll call it weak. Doesn't matter what kinds of reads I have on Risen / clarity, a case's robustness is independent of that. The quotes I bring up are not in Risen's case. There's no contradiction here, just a failure (by readers) to consider context. Now why I find problem with this wiffle waffle, is that clarity doesn't have a good read on BH (and spends lots of words explaning how he isn't sure), but finds it pertinent to speak on behalf of BH to rayn. How does this pursue a better read on BH? Why would you speak up for someone who you want a better read of? So... that makes you feel good about your vote on me? The fact that the guy I don't really have a read on, who I don't want to lynch today, is not being pursued by me? | ||
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slOosh
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On October 04 2013 05:40 marvellosity wrote: slOosh, we really just need to know what your current reads and shit are. Still reading dude. | ||
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marvellosity
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It's just so dumb. I told him earlier that a case like that is going to convince nobody, and he does exactly the same thing on another player? what the fuck is that shit? | ||
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slOosh
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On October 04 2013 05:41 Clarity_nl wrote: So... that makes you feel good about your vote on me? The fact that the guy I don't really have a read on, who I don't want to lynch today, is not being pursued by me? You aren't just waiting on the sidelines to see how he will act given more time. You spoke on his behalf instead of letting him being questioned. This being someone you would actually want a better read on. Why? | ||
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marvellosity
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Holyflare
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On October 04 2013 05:20 Risen wrote: so you're saying your cases are all based on confirmation bias? They should be objective not based on feelings. There's a difference between having a feeling when you start a case and finding the evidence to back your feelings as you build the case. I've started to write cases in the past and come to the conclusion whilst writing it that someone else is scum. Sorry I forgot to spoiler that. I'm leaving again, I'll be keeping up on my phone, though Also, I do like some of risens points by the way. Rayn is voting for people who were voting on his scum reads etc etc, i suggest you do read it to take out some of these points. | ||
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marvellosity
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On October 04 2013 05:44 slOosh wrote: You aren't just waiting on the sidelines to see how he will act given more time. You spoke on his behalf instead of letting him being questioned. This being someone you would actually want a better read on. Why? Because I knew the answer to rayn's question. Because I asked blazing the same question. On October 04 2013 05:44 marvellosity wrote: I could take anyone's filter in the game (probably including my own) and make some ridiculous narrative out of it. It's just awful. =/ he's wearing his pants on his head, does that mean he's scum? | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 04 2013 05:46 marvellosity wrote: Why don't you tell me what the good points were, that sounds like more fun. I did in fact skim it and I kinda vommed inside my mouth while doing so, so I'd rather avoid the experience a 2nd time. On my phone, tedious to read it all again, let alone quote but if you start half way through it is bearable | ||
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marvellosity
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It's like he actually wants to be ignored. | ||
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Clarity_nl
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marvellosity
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The thing that is not valid: Risen says that rayn is willing to vote his townread (Risen himself). This is pretty clearly not true given the posts quoted The thing that is valid: that rayn seems to be not bothered by his top scumread voting his 2nd scumread. This one's more interesting. Actually I partly caught Cephiro (ok he was already caught) in Noir because he produced two scumreads and didn't mention that one attacked the other. It wasn't on day 1 though. Arguably Dirkzor is my 2nd "scumread" even though I'm not sure he actually is though. Actually in the end I don't have that much of a problem on day 1 with that sort of thing, because it means maybe you're wrong on something. You can't make votes based on rankings of scumminess, because what that is is connections between unflipped players when it comes down to it. I would reiterate that slOosh being scummy but not scummiest for both rayn and BH earlier in the day kinda made me feel good about that lynch. For the "hedging bets" kinda reasons | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36160 Posts
Which necessarily would mean that Clarity is town, and yet Risen said that his feelings on Clarity remained the same. And yet partly at least the case on rayn almost seems to rest on slOosh being mafia? Risen says that rayn is doing anything not to vote slOosh. Surely this only makes sense if slOosh is mafia, surely therefore it makes sense to lynch slOosh (given they would both be mafia) to prove that part of the case. Yes? | ||
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marvellosity
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Clarity_nl
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marvellosity
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Risen
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