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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 02 2013 12:45 GMT
#244
No problem. I'm just saying it doesn't seem opportunistic. At the time dirk made his post thread sentiment was that he was town. I wouldn't call holyflare an easy lynch to push.

While I agree the post is scummy, and his reasoning when pushed by you was scummy, I wouldn't call it opportunistic.
Anyway I guess it's not a big deal. I dunno where dirk ran off to but would be nice if he came into the thread.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 02 2013 12:49 GMT
#246
How'd you feel about a sloosh lynch if dirk didn't exist in this game?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 02 2013 12:51 GMT
#248
You're no fun marv. Is there anyone other than dirk that you have an opinion on so far?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 02 2013 12:54 GMT
#250
I just wanna like, kick a hornets nest or something. This is dull.

Did you know that despite my amazing english, I can't understand a word people in manchester are saying?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 02 2013 13:44 GMT
#257
On October 02 2013 22:38 Dirkzor wrote:
Maybe I didn't value that vote so highly. Maybe I did just want to stir up things to see what fell out.


Man...


Could you explain your townread on oats better? You seemed to go "despite this list of things I just mentioned I still think he's town because reasons", namely that he cares... Could you point out some examples?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 02 2013 13:58 GMT
#268
On October 02 2013 22:56 Oatsmaster wrote:
I read/detunneled.

On October 02 2013 22:56 Oatsmaster wrote:
Why am I scummy clarity?


Contradiction.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 02 2013 14:04 GMT
#271
I'm saying your question is based on the false premise that I think you're scum.
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 02 2013 14:09 GMT
#273
If that were the case I'd have about 5 scumreads
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 02 2013 14:13 GMT
#276
On October 02 2013 23:11 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 23:09 Clarity_nl wrote:
If that were the case I'd have about 5 scumreads

DO YOU?

Man talk to me Clarity, Why isnt your vote on a dude and why arent you doing anything about it?


Really oats, read the game...
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 02 2013 14:50 GMT
#279
On October 02 2013 23:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
Cause its hard to see tiny little Vote FOR DUDES.


Marv you scum?


Do you think he is?
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 02 2013 15:05 GMT
#283
On October 02 2013 23:59 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 23:50 Clarity_nl wrote:
On October 02 2013 23:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
Cause its hard to see tiny little Vote FOR DUDES.


Marv you scum?


Do you think he is?

Hmm.
Ok so another reason why I think HF is town.

If marv is scum with him, then Marv wont call him town.
If marv is town, marv is probably right.

So both ways, HF is town I think.

I think that marv is null, he hasnt shown much of anything either way.


To be expected this early on, no?

I think you're either under or overestimating marv's scumgame if you think he can't call his scumpartner town.
Same goes for town marv being right/wrong about HF

On October 03 2013 00:02 slOosh wrote:
Scum marv would call scumbuddy HF scum?


Whatsup sloosh, any thoughts on stuffs?
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 02 2013 15:21 GMT
#289
On October 03 2013 00:16 slOosh wrote:
I still think Risen is lame, but he hasn't posted yet.

As for Dirkzor ... I'm leaning town on him. The thing reads like he came into thread while still developing thoughts, got called out and is all frazzled out for it. I disagree that voting HF is the easy way to go, because at the time three people (me then BH then clarity) had given town reads on him.

Scum willingly voting HF after seeing three people give town reads means that they are ready to engage attention. So I don't think it was an easy "park my vote move along".


Being frazzled is exclusively a townie characteristic?

Yes his vote draws attention to him but he clearly did not read the thread in enough detail to provide good reasons for his vote, which means he possibly did not read closely enough to understand thread sentiment about HF either.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 02 2013 15:24 GMT
#291
It's terrible, I know. I hate myself
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 02 2013 15:32 GMT
#293
You tend to make sense.
Though honestly if you were wrong I'd sheep you as scum so, meh.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 02 2013 15:48 GMT
#294
Besides, you're sheeping me, marv. Don't get confused now.

Anyway, want to hear more from sloosh and this townread of his.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 02 2013 16:23 GMT
#299
Long posts are cool. Too many people ignoring questions directed at them, they can't all be scum.
Come on townies, shine bright.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 02 2013 17:12 GMT
#302
On October 03 2013 02:01 slOosh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2013 00:21 Clarity_nl wrote:
On October 03 2013 00:16 slOosh wrote:
I still think Risen is lame, but he hasn't posted yet.

As for Dirkzor ... I'm leaning town on him. The thing reads like he came into thread while still developing thoughts, got called out and is all frazzled out for it. I disagree that voting HF is the easy way to go, because at the time three people (me then BH then clarity) had given town reads on him.

Scum willingly voting HF after seeing three people give town reads means that they are ready to engage attention. So I don't think it was an easy "park my vote move along".


Being frazzled is exclusively a townie characteristic?

Yes his vote draws attention to him but he clearly did not read the thread in enough detail to provide good reasons for his vote, which means he possibly did not read closely enough to understand thread sentiment about HF either.


I never said it was, I'm saying that is how I'm reading it. Frazzled town rather than frazzled scum.

I agree with you that he did not read the thread in detail. I'm not arguing against that. I'm saying that both town and scum can do that and based on his general tone / manner regarding how he deals with marv's pressure makes me lean town on him. Let's push that point: what parts of his followup look more scummy than how a town in his situation would behave?



His vote on HF had faulty reasoning. Once it gets asked of him to point out HF's "sheeping of BH and his lack of contributions" he backtracks, because he has to, as either alignment.
I really would like you to specify what exactly gives you your townread.

In your eyes, how would a scum HF react differently than how he has reacted? Or if you prefer, what is it he's done that you think he wouldn't do as scum?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 02 2013 17:22 GMT
#304
EBWOP A scum dirk >.<
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 02 2013 17:37 GMT
#311
Please drop off your reads at the read centre near you, or call if you have thoughts that you need help with. When you contact us to arrange discussion of your reads you will be informed of the pick-up schedule for your area. Click here to locate the nearest read centre to you.

BEEP
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 02 2013 17:46 GMT
#316
On October 03 2013 02:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
No i am not gonna vote for you.
Does anyone have a clue what the hell is BH doing?


Read the thread and find out, do not post until you're caught up. Thanks.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
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