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slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
October 02 2013 17:01 GMT
#301
On October 03 2013 00:18 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2013 00:16 slOosh wrote:
I still think Risen is lame, but he hasn't posted yet.

As for Dirkzor ... I'm leaning town on him. The thing reads like he came into thread while still developing thoughts, got called out and is all frazzled out for it. I disagree that voting HF is the easy way to go, because at the time three people (me then BH then clarity) had given town reads on him.

Scum willingly voting HF after seeing three people give town reads means that they are ready to engage attention. So I don't think it was an easy "park my vote move along".


You will admit, though, he's all but admitted his vote is worthless.

There's quite the difference between "developing thoughts" and "voting someone based on bs"

I don't see where he has admitted his vote is worthless. Poorly placed, yea, but nowhere worthless.

As for voting with poor reasons, he says he misread the situation, made a vote on that, and then upon a more thorough inspection found his initial feels incorrect. Could be scum backtracking or could be town who made an honest mistake and a poor vote. I'm leaning the latter.

On October 03 2013 00:21 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2013 00:16 slOosh wrote:
I still think Risen is lame, but he hasn't posted yet.

As for Dirkzor ... I'm leaning town on him. The thing reads like he came into thread while still developing thoughts, got called out and is all frazzled out for it. I disagree that voting HF is the easy way to go, because at the time three people (me then BH then clarity) had given town reads on him.

Scum willingly voting HF after seeing three people give town reads means that they are ready to engage attention. So I don't think it was an easy "park my vote move along".


Being frazzled is exclusively a townie characteristic?

Yes his vote draws attention to him but he clearly did not read the thread in enough detail to provide good reasons for his vote, which means he possibly did not read closely enough to understand thread sentiment about HF either.


I never said it was, I'm saying that is how I'm reading it. Frazzled town rather than frazzled scum.

I agree with you that he did not read the thread in detail. I'm not arguing against that. I'm saying that both town and scum can do that and based on his general tone / manner regarding how he deals with marv's pressure makes me lean town on him. Let's push that point: what parts of his followup look more scummy than how a town in his situation would behave?


On October 03 2013 00:52 marvellosity wrote:
Did slOosh really do the shoot n scoot thing? Bad slOosh.


I'm pretty busy so I will be shooting scooting in the daytime.

I'll get to Risen and HF's meta concern when I have times.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 02 2013 17:12 GMT
#302
On October 03 2013 02:01 slOosh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2013 00:21 Clarity_nl wrote:
On October 03 2013 00:16 slOosh wrote:
I still think Risen is lame, but he hasn't posted yet.

As for Dirkzor ... I'm leaning town on him. The thing reads like he came into thread while still developing thoughts, got called out and is all frazzled out for it. I disagree that voting HF is the easy way to go, because at the time three people (me then BH then clarity) had given town reads on him.

Scum willingly voting HF after seeing three people give town reads means that they are ready to engage attention. So I don't think it was an easy "park my vote move along".


Being frazzled is exclusively a townie characteristic?

Yes his vote draws attention to him but he clearly did not read the thread in enough detail to provide good reasons for his vote, which means he possibly did not read closely enough to understand thread sentiment about HF either.


I never said it was, I'm saying that is how I'm reading it. Frazzled town rather than frazzled scum.

I agree with you that he did not read the thread in detail. I'm not arguing against that. I'm saying that both town and scum can do that and based on his general tone / manner regarding how he deals with marv's pressure makes me lean town on him. Let's push that point: what parts of his followup look more scummy than how a town in his situation would behave?



His vote on HF had faulty reasoning. Once it gets asked of him to point out HF's "sheeping of BH and his lack of contributions" he backtracks, because he has to, as either alignment.
I really would like you to specify what exactly gives you your townread.

In your eyes, how would a scum HF react differently than how he has reacted? Or if you prefer, what is it he's done that you think he wouldn't do as scum?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 02 2013 17:18 GMT
#303
For me about Dirkzor, I dont like how he blantently puts out a vote that he isnt confident in, as shown by his hasty backtracking under only a few questions.
No gg, No skill.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 02 2013 17:22 GMT
#304
EBWOP A scum dirk >.<
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 02 2013 17:25 GMT
#305
On October 03 2013 02:01 slOosh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2013 00:18 marvellosity wrote:
On October 03 2013 00:16 slOosh wrote:
I still think Risen is lame, but he hasn't posted yet.

As for Dirkzor ... I'm leaning town on him. The thing reads like he came into thread while still developing thoughts, got called out and is all frazzled out for it. I disagree that voting HF is the easy way to go, because at the time three people (me then BH then clarity) had given town reads on him.

Scum willingly voting HF after seeing three people give town reads means that they are ready to engage attention. So I don't think it was an easy "park my vote move along".


You will admit, though, he's all but admitted his vote is worthless.

There's quite the difference between "developing thoughts" and "voting someone based on bs"

I don't see where he has admitted his vote is worthless. Poorly placed, yea, but nowhere worthless.



If you're voting with blatant disregard for the facts, and you feel like placing a vote without checking your facts first is a good policy, then you render your own vote worthless.

And you've still not said anything on why you find Risen suspicious.

I find that pretty suspicious. You are suspicious.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
October 02 2013 17:31 GMT
#306
Just woke up, reading the thread. I feel like I'm the Australian now.

Clarity and Dirk... + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Filter diving now. Also ##unvote
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 02 2013 17:31 GMT
#307
Why unvote Risen?
No gg, No skill.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 02 2013 17:33 GMT
#308
Okay i am here. Wassup guys?
table for two on a tv tray
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 02 2013 17:34 GMT
#309
Why do people do this.
Why.
No gg, No skill.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 02 2013 17:36 GMT
#310
Why don't you look like usual town Oats?
table for two on a tv tray
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 02 2013 17:37 GMT
#311
Please drop off your reads at the read centre near you, or call if you have thoughts that you need help with. When you contact us to arrange discussion of your reads you will be informed of the pick-up schedule for your area. Click here to locate the nearest read centre to you.

BEEP
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 02 2013 17:37 GMT
#312
On October 03 2013 02:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why don't you look like usual town Oats?

What is 'usual' town Oats?
No gg, No skill.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 02 2013 17:39 GMT
#313
On October 03 2013 02:37 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2013 02:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why don't you look like usual town Oats?

What is 'usual' town Oats?

Not this.
table for two on a tv tray
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 02 2013 17:40 GMT
#314
On October 03 2013 02:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2013 02:37 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 03 2013 02:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why don't you look like usual town Oats?

What is 'usual' town Oats?

Not this.

real fucking useful rayn.
Vote for me then.
And back it the fuck up.
No gg, No skill.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 02 2013 17:44 GMT
#315
No i am not gonna vote for you.
Does anyone have a clue what the hell is BH doing?
table for two on a tv tray
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 02 2013 17:46 GMT
#316
On October 03 2013 02:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
No i am not gonna vote for you.
Does anyone have a clue what the hell is BH doing?


Read the thread and find out, do not post until you're caught up. Thanks.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 02 2013 17:50 GMT
#317
On October 03 2013 02:46 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2013 02:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
No i am not gonna vote for you.
Does anyone have a clue what the hell is BH doing?


Read the thread and find out, do not post until you're caught up. Thanks.

I am caught up, i am not posting if i am not caught up.

Hey Blazinghand. Why exactly are you voting for Oats? I have read like 20 different reasoning for your vote and every time it's different. Like at least three time you say "it's not RNG", then "and also RNG", then "not RNG". I have a hard time figuring out why do you exactly think Oats is scum.
table for two on a tv tray
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 02 2013 17:51 GMT
#318
So who are you gonna vote for Rayn?

I say we lynch Dirkzor than rayn.
No gg, No skill.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 02 2013 17:52 GMT
#319
I dunno yet. I am not going to vote for marv or clarity, that's for sure.
table for two on a tv tray
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 02 2013 17:53 GMT
#320
On October 03 2013 02:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2013 02:46 Clarity_nl wrote:
On October 03 2013 02:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
No i am not gonna vote for you.
Does anyone have a clue what the hell is BH doing?


Read the thread and find out, do not post until you're caught up. Thanks.

I am caught up, i am not posting if i am not caught up.

Hey Blazinghand. Why exactly are you voting for Oats? I have read like 20 different reasoning for your vote and every time it's different. Like at least three time you say "it's not RNG", then "and also RNG", then "not RNG". I have a hard time figuring out why do you exactly think Oats is scum.


Actually it goes:

1) Let's vote whoever gets rng'd by my post number!
2) it's oats, let's lynch him, my idea is good because X
3) oh look his reaction to my random lynch on him makes him look scummy to me, so we should lynch him

It's really not that hard to follow.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
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