Thug Life Mini Mafia

On September 28 2013 00:36 Oatsmaster wrote:

plesase why.

On September 28 2013 00:48 VisceraEyes wrote:

Are you retarded? You voted with no reasoning, what the fuck do you expect? Why is it exclusively scum that would call out a vote against someone with no reasoning provided?

On September 28 2013 00:52 Oatsmaster wrote:

what?

On September 28 2013 00:54 Oatsmaster wrote:

ok so im not scum.
Cool.

Thanks for taking your vote off me and putting it somewhere else.

On September 28 2013 01:54 Oatsmaster wrote:

It works.
If he plays properly, he might be scum. If he plays non properly, he is town.

On September 28 2013 06:25 VisceraEyes wrote:

Like it's really REALLY hard for me to not take this as a scumslip. LMAO

On September 28 2013 03:41 WaveofShadow wrote:

I know I keep giving you townreads when you're useless but I don't know if I can give you one this game since you're also playing in Noire. That post gives me the jibblies especially when half the town disagrees with you atm and the other half is afk.

On September 27 2013 21:46 ShiaoPi wrote:
Golden Sun mafia grack's first post:


In here first post:


The first is akin to kenpachi, not necessarily pure trolling, in here is more trolling like a lot more.

On the whole idea of random lynching, statistically speaking he is correct that random lynching is better, not that I am agreeing with random lynch, since I prefer choosing the lynch by myself. So there can be town motivation for promoting randomlynching.

On September 27 2013 16:27 Chairman Ray wrote:
Hey everyone, I just got my role pm. Just as a heads up, I'm gonna pretty much entire day tomorrow, and I'll be back like Saturday night. I'll try to see if I can squeeze in an hour or so on Saturday night to play. Sorry I can't be too helpful on D1.

GLHF!

On September 27 2013 15:18 FirmTofu wrote:
Ok, my first impressions are that Yamato, WoS, and VE look super town. Grack is probably scum. His posting is terrible.

I've never played a legit game with BH or Palmar, so I can't read them yet.

On September 28 2013 12:37 Blazinghand wrote:
man of all the arguments for lunch koahi

TTY hat one is truly goal

I believe with you mrcc your words are inspire. let's make history together. I am in for a penny a shilling and a point


manly history time

##unvote
##vote koshi

I love turned

On September 29 2013 06:52 Chairman Ray wrote:
Oh shit! I didn't get lynched on day 1 this time. I think it's pretty clear that I'm mafia. This will never happen if I'm town.

On September 27 2013 12:48 hiro protagonist wrote:
Sup Homies. long time sense I last played, lets get to it.

First thoughts sense reading the thread, I would like to hear more from ShiaoPi, and VA. Both are giving off a "nothing to see here" vibe so far. Lets hear something more substantial please.

Yamato, VE, and Grackaroni, you guys just keep doing your thing.

On September 27 2013 13:21 hiro protagonist wrote:
WoS, If you wanna vent a bit, fine. But Im not gonna let how you feel be a vail for you to slack off and hide. Your opening post was a good start, why dont you do more of that. If your attitude starts to mess with town atmosphere, Im gonna call you on it.

On September 27 2013 13:23 hiro protagonist wrote:
Oats, your not helping.

Sense I answered your question, would you care to give me your thoughts on Yamato and BH?

On September 27 2013 13:59 hiro protagonist wrote:

I didnt say he wasn't trolling, just that he was less trolly. hes trolled waaaayyy hard than this.

VA, your here, and actively lurking hardcore. reads? opinons? any thing at all to give me a reason not to lynch you?

On September 27 2013 15:03 hiro protagonist wrote:
Hmm, VA, in case you dont get it, you need to contribute. you cant just sit there and 'watch'. Unless you give me a good reason for you to just chill back(hint: you cant), then you better start giving me reads. what do you think af the game so far? who is suspicious in your eyes? What might have slipped under the radar?

From this point on, your gonna carry your weight. got it?

On September 27 2013 15:27 hiro protagonist wrote:
I would like to see ShiaoPi and BH post more.

kk, with that im off to bed ^__^

On September 28 2013 03:38 FirmTofu wrote:
Anyone who supports RNG, myself included, should still scumhunt and make full use of the day. There is still much to say and much to find. Anyone who stops scumhunting should be subject to lynch as well.

On September 30 2013 13:02 WaveofShadow wrote:

No.
Bad.

On September 30 2013 13:53 WaveofShadow wrote:
Dunno. Haven't looked into Hiro much.
It's possible he could be scum but I'm more certain that FT is, plus our dear BH whose time on this earth was cut tragically short, believed so as well.

Dare you defy him?

Also did you even talk about Hiro before? WHy are you even voting him?

On September 30 2013 14:07 WaveofShadow wrote:

Oh yeah.
I didn't even read that.

So is that it then? Game dead and everybody moves on?

On October 01 2013 00:43 VayneAuthority wrote:
alternatively, i will vote for pandain or palmar

On October 01 2013 00:46 VayneAuthority wrote:
after reading all filters those are the 3 that were most likely to dispose of BH

On October 01 2013 01:07 Palmar wrote:


That's not how it works.

I agree, Hiro has a high chance of flipping scum.

We want to lynch scum today.

Can you prove that he has higher chance of flipping scum than FT?

If so, i'm with you bro, I'm right here, but my initial conclusion was that FT had a higher chance to flip scum.

On October 01 2013 01:12 WaveofShadow wrote:

Doesn't matter much if you think he's scum or not though since apparently you're not willing to do anything about it though aside from vote for him, right?

Also wait a minute....if the vote for grack was genuine, how the fuck can you even say that post was a bait? Just seems tacked on to further either try to get a rise out of me or make an excuse.

I really don't get why people won't listen to me about you. Gonna feel good to be vindicated postgame.

On October 01 2013 01:17 VayneAuthority wrote:
Because I knew somebody would get upset that I posted no reasoning behind it. and boy was I correct, the pigeons are really gathering around now.

On October 03 2013 06:42 Pandain wrote:
Stop accusing me

On October 03 2013 12:25 FirmTofu wrote:
I'm playing this game now.

On October 04 2013 01:39 Koshi wrote:

Rayn is 100% town. I read him for you. Believe it.

On October 04 2013 01:50 VayneAuthority wrote:
should we use the golden rule of whoever is pushing town vayne is scum? might as well call it a tradition at this point

On October 05 2013 06:08 s0Lstice wrote:


dohoho

did you participate in the Day 2 lynch at all? describe your actions as you see them.

On October 05 2013 06:33 s0Lstice wrote:


you didnt answer what I asked you.

On October 05 2013 06:43 s0Lstice wrote:


Yea i think you could be. That weird Oats vote plus not really caring about our Day 2 lynch makes you pretty suspicious to me.

On October 05 2013 07:01 s0Lstice wrote:


yea i dont love this. gotta think on it.

On October 05 2013 07:06 VisceraEyes wrote:

YOUR SARCASM HAS BEEN NOTED AND WILL APPEAR ON YOUR PERMANENT RECORD CHEESE!

On October 05 2013 07:21 Koshi wrote:
CC you are so wrong about everything. Like all your suspects flipped town... Like everybody you ever talked about flipped town/cop...

On October 05 2013 07:22 Koshi wrote:
How is that even possible, afraid to buss teammates and inapt to find other scumteam?

On October 05 2013 08:16 Pandain wrote:

He didn't have any defense what are you talking about please quote the defenses

On September 29 2013 05:22 Oatsmaster wrote:
I think Palmar is 3p actually. If they exist.

On September 27 2013 18:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
Yeah I agree with you palmar. hiro has been not pushing people with questions.

On September 27 2013 23:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Both of you are not making sense in a scumy way.

On September 27 2013 23:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
But Palmar is?
I dont understand man.

On September 27 2013 23:09 Oatsmaster wrote:

I kinda do need to understand how you formulate reads to know if you are town or scum.
For example, I think that your current reads on me and VE are not very well substantiated and you are avoiding giving Palmar a town read for no good reason.

On September 27 2013 23:17 Oatsmaster wrote:

I believe that you are taking those great words out of context.

Rayn ok, what makes Palmar scum.

On September 27 2013 23:25 Oatsmaster wrote:

Why would scum WoS fake emo?

Man you basically think Palmar is town FOR NOW.
You couldve said that earlier.

On September 27 2013 23:44 Oatsmaster wrote:
Isnt it nice how you are calling me and VE town for posting in a not scum manner and Palmar not town for posting town manner.

On September 28 2013 18:05 Oatsmaster wrote:
oh shit, I realised its Pandain not Palmar who posted the meta case on yamato

Hiro pro and everyone calling VE scummy, why?

OK PALMAR IS PROBABLY town.

My bad.

On September 28 2013 19:58 Oatsmaster wrote:
So Yamato, horrible town include palmar and VE and BH.

I see.

Rayn, how does point 3 make WoS mafia? All I see is that it makes him forgetful.

On September 29 2013 02:16 Oatsmaster wrote:
RNG lynch SnB.

On September 29 2013 02:49 Oatsmaster wrote:
What the fuck is going on.
Why are people voting for Palmar, why hasnt SnB voted for anyone, why is Chairman Ray being noob mean that hes town?

On September 29 2013 03:02 Oatsmaster wrote:
fuck man rayn, you have to explain Palmar being scum more than you dont like his read on WoS.

On October 01 2013 23:23 Oatsmaster wrote:

But you called me and VE town because we are playing to our town meta.
I dont get all this nonsense about Palmar being totally townie but not town.

On October 03 2013 14:14 Oatsmaster wrote:
Fuck time to look townie and do retarded shit.

GUYS LYNCH PALMAR.
##vote Palmar
I could basically vote for anyone at this point other than Koshi/Pandain/solstice/WoS

On October 04 2013 14:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
Palmar is totally town though.
Lol you are funny Pandain.

First quote, I decided that my feelings were wrong and that Yamato was scum.

2nd and 3rd quote make 0 sense if you are calling me mafia for it.

Explain why you think that the 2nd and 3rd quotes are scummy Please Pandain.

On October 04 2013 14:49 Oatsmaster wrote:
I think Vayne is playing stupid enough to be town, same with Palmar.

Palmar wanting to piss off rayn seems to be a townie thing to do.

On September 28 2013 18:01 Chairman Ray wrote:
Oh, only 11 hours left. I definitely won't be here tomorrow for endgame, so I'm gonna stay up late tonight to try to catch up.

I've lightly skimmed through posts so far, and I take it that Koshi is winning votes because of RNG? Filtering through his posts, it's pretty clear that he's aggravated by this decision by town. I'm gonna put myself in his shoes for a sec. If I was town, and everyone was gonna RNG lynch me, then I would just be like wtf... I definitely wouldn't be angry since it's not due to my own lack of skill or other people's misreads, but sheer luck instead. Once I flip town, then the townies will just feel really stupid for doing it and I'd be okay with that. Now what if I was in Koshi's shoes and I was mafia? I would probably be a bit aggravated to push town off me, and if I flip red, then people will probably celebrate at my expense. But the thing is that I am not Koshi, so I don't share his feelings or thought process, so this read might be off. To people that have played with Koshi before, would you expect this kind of behavior from town or mafia Koshi? I definitely think that by his behavior, he is more likely mafia.

Another thing that's consistent with Koshi being mafia is that there are others trying to save him. If Koshi were town, then it could be possible that there is no effort to save him, light effort to save him, or heavy effort to save him. Anything is possible. If Koshi were mafia, I would bet that his mafia buddies wouldn't give up on him so easily, especially on D1. Since the RNG thing is so stupid, then his mafia buddies could easily make a case for it and not seem scummy in the process. So if Koshi were mafia, I would bet that there is some heavy effort to save him. Right now, we do see some heavy effort, in the form of the yamato train. Although this could happen if Koshi was either town or mafia, I suspect it is more likely if he were mafia.

Because of these reasons, I think there's a good chance that Koshi is actually scum, and we got really lucky with the RNG.

Just for now
##Vote: Koshi

I will be up for a bit more reading through posts. I would like to think about it a bit more before leaving for the night with a read that came from RNG.

On October 04 2013 12:35 Chairman Ray wrote:
Hey I'm back now, and I did a quick read through the thread. Definitely impressed by all the reads and information people have been giving. You guys are definitely carrying me here .

Anyways, my personal opinion, I think it's best to go after people that have a possibility to be on a scumteam with SnB. If we can get rid of one scumteam, then the KP goes down. Reading through the filters, I think the strongest disconnect with SnB is probably Palmer. For this reason, even though Palmer might be a good lynch candidate, I wouldn't vote him myself just because I want to get rid of SnB's scumteam first.

After a quick analysis, I don't think that there's much of a chance that VA and FT are on the same scumteam, and Palmer and FT are on the same scumteam either. There's a weak disconnect between VA and palmer, but that can go either way. So using the four people - VA, SnB, FT, and Palm, I will try to see if I can map out their alliance.

Scenario A
Scumteam: SnB, VA
FT and Palmer cannot occupy third spot, and they are also disconnected, so one must be other scumteam, one must be town

Scenario B
Scumteam: SnB, FT
VA and Palmer cannot occupy third spot. They can both be other scumteam, or one of the is scum, one is town.

Among the three people VA, FT, and Palmer, here's the information that we will get from lynching them:
VA - If he flips scum with SnB, then either FT or Palmer must be town. If he flips opposite scum, then FT is likely scum, or else both FT and Palmer are town. If he flips town, then FT and Palmer can be scum on opposite teams, or one is scum, one is town.
FT - If he flips scum with SnB, then out of VA and palmer, one or both is on the other scumteam. If he flips other scumteam, then, Palmer is town, and VA is can either be town or scum with SnB, more likely scum with SnB. If he flips town, then we don't know much about Palmer and VA.
Palmer - I don't want to lynch him, but if he flips other scumteam, then it doesn't say much about VA and FT, and if he flips town, it doesn't say much either.

There's also solstice, which some people are pushing to vote. I think the only disconnect that can even be drawn with him is with Palmer, but it's not a very strong one. I also doubt he's gonna be lynched today, so there isn't much of a point trying to piece him in. I will do that tomorrow.

Right now, I think I'm gonna put my vote on FT since there isn't that big a benefit lynching VA over him, and plus, I wanna save Palmer.

##Vote: FirmTofu

On October 06 2013 00:24 austinmcc wrote:
CC i think your post on oats is a little shabby and opportunistic. There are BOATLOADS of palmar mentions in Oat's D1. He's actively forcing people to take stances on Palmar.

Like, you pull out a million Oats mentions Palmar bits, but you don't DO anything with them. Are you saying that Oats is mafia and on Palmar's mafia team? Because if you don't think that, then Oats mentioning Palmar a bunch doesn't really DO anything at all.

And if you think he's on Palmar's team...that's a LOT of associating. Don't buy it.

I think you look a bit scummier for the post on Oats, but then you go and poke at Ray who I would have on your team. Is curious.

On October 06 2013 00:32 WaveofShadow wrote:

You were just IN NOIRE, CHeese.
That's EXACTLY what people said about CR to get him mislynched D1.

That's a big pile of horseshit Cheese, and I don't like it.

On October 06 2013 00:34 WaveofShadow wrote:


Comment on this post please?


Austin also commented regarding solstice's suspicion of you....I kinda find that in and of itself suspicious.

On October 06 2013 00:37 WaveofShadow wrote:

You said it yourself, he's a newbie. Newbies are often afraid to flat out take stances because they're worried about how they look even as town. I know I was in my first few games until I learned that townies shouldn't care about that.

I don't believe he scumslipped either. He's new, not stupid.

I'm certainly not happy with his posting level though and I really want him to come back and actually engage the thread because like you said, the 'confirmed town' pool and flipped player pool means the unconfirmed pool gets smaller....

On October 06 2013 00:40 WaveofShadow wrote:
So CC, do you think your self-applied heuristic applies this game?
Would you consider yourself protown this game or not?

On October 06 2013 00:48 WaveofShadow wrote:

As far as I can remember you actually played decently in Noire I think...? I dunno I was pretty far removed by the time it ended.

Cheese who is 3rd member of the bangers?

On October 06 2013 10:35 WaveofShadow wrote:
Solstice?
Got anything to say?

And let me make this perfectly clear once again: IF YOU ARE TOWN AND FAKING THIS CC I SWEAR I WILL COME TO YOUR HOUSE AND DO NOT SO FRIENDLY THINGS TO YOU

On October 06 2013 11:44 WaveofShadow wrote:
I can't see a scenario in which a town solstice shouldn't have counterclaimed koshi honestly.
Like...even when I played survivor I counterclaimed people as soon as I could.

On October 06 2013 12:04 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Why did you payphone me? Not other actions? Why claim scum!?!!!?!?!

On October 06 2013 12:16 s0Lstice wrote:


It didn't even matter to me, but yes.

I wanted to catch you and your teammates. Pretty sure I wouldn't have used it even if I could after hiro died

On October 06 2013 12:45 WaveofShadow wrote:

Pretty much this.
Honestly given how people play these days, Solstice's suggestion is actually way more likely to me if Koshi is town fakeclaiming than scum fakeclaiming.

I just really don't see the advantage to saccing a scum member to out the cop like that.

On October 06 2013 12:59 s0Lstice wrote:


You should be scared because this is not a fake-claim.

On October 06 2013 13:03 s0Lstice wrote:


Because I was thunderstruck. Someone claiming your role is a very unique shock. I took time to think it through, and like I said, for better or ill, I ended up on Koshi town because it would be a pretty crazy play for mafia.

I honestly thought that he would eventually come clean, but I didn't know the when.

On October 07 2013 00:26 s0Lstice wrote:


CC?

On October 07 2013 00:28 Koshi wrote:

... He would always do that because he thought he had other team.

On October 07 2013 00:32 Koshi wrote:

Very maybe. Because solstice play only makes sense if he is a banger or both scumteams are teamed up.

On October 07 2013 00:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:

SnB was N2 shot.
There is a dude who fakeclaim a cop and you shoot someone else?

On October 07 2013 00:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:

He basically told the thread he is going to shoot me.

On October 07 2013 00:49 Oatsmaster wrote:
You know what the weirdest thing is for me? Is that none of them seem particularly angry about being counterclaimed.

On October 07 2013 11:46 s0Lstice wrote:


yea well you never responded to me asking you to provide, succinctly, the scum motivation for doing what I'm doing right now.

if i recall you were talking about it earlier and just ended up with FFFFUUUUUU

On October 07 2013 12:05 s0Lstice wrote:


You are, at this moment, on the fast track to being fucked if you're town.

On October 07 2013 12:08 austinmcc wrote:
Are you on board with lynching non-cop scum?

On October 07 2013 12:21 austinmcc wrote:
Well, you're ALREADY paranoid if that's the case.

Like...if they're both alive tomorrow, no different from both being alive today.

It's another day of FUN and TOGETHERNESS and WINNING FOR TOWN

On October 08 2013 02:08 s0Lstice wrote:
welp. looks like its about that time.

On October 08 2013 03:13 s0Lstice wrote:


I just don't see a deal that really gives me a shot at winning. This is not the same as survivor.

On October 08 2013 03:19 WaveofShadow wrote:

Not entirely because CC could still be baller if Solstice MCB
Sucks for CC he lynches scum and still goes under the microscope. Although i guess it's the same for you Austin.
lol these 2x scumteam games----you can be a town hero and people dont (and shouldn't) give a shit

On October 08 2013 04:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
CheeseCake; Why have you not tried to interact with Solstice in your QT? Or have you?

On October 08 2013 04:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Why would you not paraphrase that if it's interesting?

On October 08 2013 04:52 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:


It happened about 2 minutes ago.

On October 08 2013 04:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:

haha lol. I know what this means most likely.

On October 08 2013 04:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
But tbh, why did you out this as town?

On October 08 2013 04:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:

... seriously dude?
Why does noone in this game think...?

On October 08 2013 05:25 Koshi wrote:

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Anonymous QT.

That's it.

He was going to frame me anonymously through CC.

wauw

so smart.

On October 09 2013 10:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:

lol, everything cool happened.

On October 09 2013 10:44 WaveofShadow wrote:

Nope.
It's down to you or Austin.
And the best part is we can lynch you both probably!

On October 09 2013 10:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Mr.CC do you think Austin is town?

On October 09 2013 11:07 WaveofShadow wrote:

Funny, I think Pandain might have said the same thing.
That's really weird!

On October 09 2013 11:09 VayneAuthority wrote:
ok yea like i said if CC ever brought up the possibility of lynching me, lynch him asap

On October 09 2013 11:10 VayneAuthority wrote:


lul

On October 09 2013 11:13 VayneAuthority wrote:


because shackling yourself to me is beneficial only as town. Extremely non-beneficial as scum. If you are town you have no problem making a pact with me; if you are scum you need the possibility of mislynching me.

On October 09 2013 11:20 VayneAuthority wrote:


its actually quite good since we don't have to worry about each other and you get the better end of the deal since everyone knows im town. You would only be a threat at lylo at that point. By not taking the deal you just make me want to lynch you since you are keeping your options open.

On October 09 2013 11:23 WaveofShadow wrote:
He's no Flash but he's gosu-er than you.

On October 09 2013 11:25 VayneAuthority wrote:


well if you've been following the game it is really obvious im town at this point. if you can't accept that you can join austin in the list of needs to die asap

On October 09 2013 11:27 VisceraEyes wrote:

No one is saying you can't consider him. He's just saying that if you conclude that he's scum, NO U.

On October 09 2013 11:30 VisceraEyes wrote:

A universe in which 2 of a three man scum team claim scum in as many days Cheese.

On October 09 2013 11:30 WaveofShadow wrote:

Alright CC.
Then you tell us.
Why did Solstice make the call?

On October 09 2013 11:33 VisceraEyes wrote:

Are you saying it's not earned?

On October 09 2013 11:44 VisceraEyes wrote:

IF you're so eager for it to be over, why not just concede? I mean, you seem to have doubts as to who the final scum is, why are you +1'ing sentiment to end the day early?

On October 09 2013 11:48 VisceraEyes wrote:

My point is that you're aiming to forgo "the time today" by +1'ing Wave's sentiment. HE'S okay with shorter days because HE thinks that you're the final scum. YOU on the other hand are going to great lengths to appear unsure about the final lynch.

There's a cognitive disconnect between the two mindsets is what I'm getting at.

On October 09 2013 11:52 VisceraEyes wrote:
But it's not that you're sure and want to know if you're right or wrong, your attesting that you don't know - that you're paranoid of everyone. A townie would want NAY!! NEEEED!!! that time to figure out their reads.

To me it just looks like you're trying to look like a townie by doing what the townies are doing. It stanks.

On October 09 2013 11:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Mr. Cheesecake what kind of music do you listen to?

On October 10 2013 02:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:

So how is this different from you/Austin buddying up now?