Thug Life Mini Mafia

On September 26 2013 08:40 debears wrote:
Btw. I'm going to try to analze this game from a town perspective and post it postgame.

Might not be the best, but it might help out.

If anyone would like to help out, pm me <3

On September 26 2013 22:27 Oatsmaster wrote:

Im sorry, what? Since when is game priority based on how deserving you are?

On September 27 2013 01:32 WaveofShadow wrote:
I know this is completely unrelated to anything, but I didn't know where to put it (since I'm dead in LXII).
Someone needs to make Personality Mafia 3 so I can be Koshi.

dnu dnu dnu dnu dnu

On September 27 2013 05:56 VayneAuthority wrote:
I don't get what he is talking about when he says he knows stuff about the Noire game. Seems like he is just blowing smoke really which seems more like town WoS.

anyways I see no reason to not vote palmar or grackaroni this phase

On September 27 2013 06:01 Grackaroni wrote:
Completely serious about random lynching though, It gives better odds at catching scum than normal analysis day1 and it gives a good deal more information than you would think.

On September 27 2013 06:10 Grackaroni wrote:

hah. I actually would be less inclined to propose a random lynch as mafia because I'm more comfortable being in control of the lynch.

On September 27 2013 06:18 Grackaroni wrote:
Just to clarify, you guys are voting me because you think I am mafia or because you think I am trolling?

On September 27 2013 06:31 Grackaroni wrote:

And what is it in your mind that makes you believe pushing random lynches is a scum trait? Prior experience?

On September 27 2013 06:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'd like everyone voting Grack to explain in simple terms why they are so sure that what Grack is doing is NOT trying to find scum. I can wait. I've got aaaaaallll day.

On September 27 2013 06:01 ShiaoPi wrote:

Always liked your mindset koshi <3

On September 27 2013 06:45 VisceraEyes wrote:

Wait is this not-quite-veiled irritation that I'm not voting with you?

I'm just trying to understand.

On September 27 2013 06:47 VisceraEyes wrote:
You should if you're trying to get someone lynched. :/

Why so abrasive?

On September 27 2013 06:51 ShiaoPi wrote:
tell me, I am intrigued

On September 27 2013 06:57 Blazinghand wrote:
Am I cool because you think i'm town or because you think I am generally objectively cool

On September 27 2013 07:14 Grackaroni wrote:
lol you guys are so cute, that part was me trolling. I realize that nobody is going to follow a random lynch of a target deliberately chosen by me because that's not random.

On September 27 2013 07:40 Grackaroni wrote:

don't fight the random lynch. Ease into it and we'll all be happier!



Lots of analysis comes from random lynches. The lynch doesn't just fall into place when somebody is RNG'd what happens when a person is randomly selected. how will people react. will people flip-flop or will they go through with their vote. Could lead to one of the most informative days 1s ever.

On September 27 2013 21:03 Palmar wrote:


If you think someone is scum you don't try to create a new bandwagon. If you another guy has more chance of flipping scum than someone who's already under pressure, you make a case that's you know.. actually a case, to convince people to follow your reasoning.

As to your point about putting pressure on SP, do you honestly think that SP feels any kind of pressure from a random vote with no reasons to back it up, from a guy who has no influence on the game so far. Remember FT hasn't done anything to establish himself as a person that demands attention in town.

Or are you merely saying FT is stupid and thinks that his vote holds more value than it does?

On September 27 2013 21:21 Palmar wrote:


What's the point of making a case on someone that is up for lynch. If said person is #1 or #2, he most likely has been discussed to death, so it's just a matter of coming to a conclusion on whether or not you agree with the current logic in the thread.

Saying he "made a splash" is a gross misrepresentation of what actually happened. FT made a quiet random vote with no reasons behind it that made exactly 0 people think twice about ShiaoPi. That is equally pointless as refusing to discuss Grack until it's too late to influence the discussion.

So if FT wants to be useless and irrelevant, he's doing a splendid job.

On September 27 2013 21:32 ShiaoPi wrote:
I can agree with a lot of points on FirmTofu, but he always seemed like lynchbait to me. I am unsure yet whether or not lynching him gives us a good chance on hitting scum. Would like to hear more from him before deciding on him.

In other news why koshi do you think that grack is scum? In my opinion bringing himself so much attention right off the bat is quite unlikely for mafia

On September 27 2013 21:37 ShiaoPi wrote:


He brought the idea up first, koshi. even suggesting random lynching is easily bringing attention to himself

On September 27 2013 21:58 ShiaoPi wrote:
Cant say he is definitely not scum, he is at best nullish to me, I am more curious why you are so certain that he is in fact red

On September 28 2013 00:07 Grackaroni wrote:


@Koshi: I still don't agree with your reasoning for FT. I don't think he's town for making a splash I just don't think there's good reasoning for him being a good day1 lynch.

On September 27 2013 20:51 Koshi wrote:
Maybe to put pressure on SP? I don't find it scummy tbh. With limited time he could have voted Grack and then make a case on SP. Or just 1up grack and then make case + vote to give his case more value.

On September 27 2013 23:33 Grackaroni wrote:
I could definitely see firm tofu as town say I think you're scum but I want to pressure someone else I think is scum.

On September 28 2013 00:35 Oatsmaster wrote:
Someone streams rolling a dice with our posts in the background.
Like.
1) sets up stream, table and screen where we can see.
2) When he sees a post that says ROLL, he rolls.
3) whoever gets chosen gets lynched.
EZ. PZ.

On September 28 2013 00:38 Oatsmaster wrote:

He could be showing a video.

On September 28 2013 01:13 WaveofShadow wrote:

Koshi can you show me where I specifically did this?
I assume you're taking my calling town shit as 'town is shit if they lynch me cuz town always lynch town D1 and they bad lololol?'
Where did I ever talk about myself getting lynched? Does my posting somehow belie that I am worried about it?
Like....the first post where you brought up feeling bad about me made me think you were town but this one has me stumped. Again I'm inclined to think town because this is just such a convoluted way of thinking to come from scum.

On September 28 2013 01:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
Vayne played pretty straight up the last scum game, Golden Sun.
So yeah this kinda really weird dispassive play is town vayne.
Rayn, thoughts?

On September 28 2013 01:28 Grackaroni wrote:
Koshi's thought process is much more free-flowing in Golden Sun, he accuses S&B at the very start but then he moves on and comments on everyone else in the game. Here his posting is more held-back. He forced a scum read on me early game and is just sticking to it not commenting as much on other people. He is asking me these useless questions. He is better than this when he is town. Koshi is scum.

On September 28 2013 01:57 Grackaroni wrote:

Yeah I don't think either of us really feels like talking about that right now. Realistically no matter how hard I try I'm probably not going to be able convince enough people to get you lynched this cycle with a lot of useless players but I know your game is off.

On September 28 2013 03:06 Blazinghand wrote:


you don't know what mod is do you

mod is like "do the division,then what's the remainder?

so if it were post #23, 23 mod 19 = 4, we lynch SnB. If it were post #40, 40 mod 19 = 2, we lynch VE. Get it?

On September 28 2013 03:13 Blazinghand wrote:


19855202 mod 19 is 12.

that being said, no rerolls! sorry.

On September 28 2013 03:17 Blazinghand wrote:


no, yours doesn't say eight. you're really really bad at math. https://encrypted.google.com/search?hl=en&q=19855202 mod 19

On September 28 2013 03:20 Blazinghand wrote:


clearly not, since you're using a modular inversion instead of modulo...

On September 28 2013 03:22 WaveofShadow wrote:

I tried to push RNG when I came back yesterday; basically everyone has dropped the idea. I even said I'd be fine agreeing to RNG so long as people don't sacrifice scumhunting, so i'm certainly not going to try to push Koshi all day onto people who have no desire to RNG in the fist place, when this WOULD detract from scumhunting.

Really looking forward to the town lynch at the end of today.

On September 28 2013 03:24 Blazinghand wrote:


>implying people ever actually RNG lynch

On September 28 2013 03:35 WaveofShadow wrote:
And where is Rayn?

On September 28 2013 03:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oops, got cut, second last. Thi

s one:

On September 28 2013 04:08 VisceraEyes wrote:

BH lied - he's always been in favor of a Koshi lynch and now that he himself has implemented it (fairly, as he's attested) he's backing off of it.

##Unvote
##Vote: Koshi

I can't wait to see some actual content from the guy - it will be interesting to see how his lies intertwine.

On September 28 2013 04:10 ShiaoPi wrote:

koshi still scum though

On September 28 2013 04:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Let's imagine you make some actual analysis soon ok?

On September 28 2013 04:49 WaveofShadow wrote:

Why would he need to test the waters when Oats and Rayn had voted for me and so many other people were openly suspicious?

Like...I remember calling Grack out for this in GS and this doesn't look like quite the same thing. Even mroe perplexing will be that supposedly Koshi says he will be away until after lynch so we may not get any more info out of him.

On September 28 2013 07:25 VisceraEyes wrote:

I want to clear this up really fast. THE VOTE WAS RANDOM. There's literally no possible way for BH to have anticipated what post number his would be, and even if he COULD somehow, there's no way he could have posted EXACTLY when that specific number popped up. It's literally impossible.

It's a completely fair and random lynch - I know it doesn't seem that way to you as you're the one getting lynched. Nor would I expect you to just roll over! FIGHT! So you think yamato is scum ya? How about instead of screaming at town about getting lynched (which, btw, may not even happen - it's 24 hours away,) you just put something together AGAINST Yamato? All eyes are on you, after all - EVERYONE will see it.

On September 28 2013 07:39 Grackaroni wrote:
Quit reaching. I was going to switch regardless because Yamato came back and started doing things.

On September 28 2013 19:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Bus you and WoS. WoS get's lynched instead of you if you have the most votes at the end of the day.

On September 28 2013 22:17 Palmar wrote:


You need to write many big posts.

On September 28 2013 22:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I am your bro dude. :/

On September 28 2013 22:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Good cop bad cop, remember. Bros.

On September 28 2013 22:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Good cop.

On September 28 2013 22:51 Grackaroni wrote:



I will start writing something up. I'm pretty lazy. In the mean time,

@Koshi: Read on VayneAuthority

On September 29 2013 01:44 Grackaroni wrote:

Tell me about your BH read. Has it changed from last night? Is there more to it than the fact that it could be a good strategy for scum. Would your read on him honestly be the same if I had been RNG'd instead of you?

On September 29 2013 04:41 Chairman Ray wrote:
Do we wanna talk about why the transition onto Yamato has been so smooth? Like I mean when we were all on Koshi, there was heavy resistance. After switching onto Yamato, I haven't seen much effort to get back onto Koshi. I'm kinda worried here.

On September 29 2013 06:24 Chairman Ray wrote:


11 Civilians - all Civilians have a single one-use bulletproof vest which will protect them from 1 KP that night. If they are shot at and survive, they will be notified.

On September 29 2013 07:06 Grackaroni wrote:
What do you guys make of our good friend Mr. Pandain. The guy who likes analyzing and has a limited amount of time on his hands and chose to spend all of it studying Yamato's meta, when he could have just said that Yamato was scum because he did nothing but flip out over people wanting to random lynch rather than analyze posts and then voted for a policy lynch instead of scumhunting himself.

On September 29 2013 17:32 hiro protagonist wrote:

Dont worry VE, you'll hear all about who I think is scum come morning. pinkie swear ^__^

Quick Question, why did you keep your vote on Koshi? where you all RNG yolo! or, you thought Kushi was scum despite going back and forth about it all day?

Do you think the RNG discussion helped town?

On September 29 2013 19:27 Oatsmaster wrote:

He flipped town. Therefore it is not scum yamato meta.

On September 27 2013 16:48 Pandain wrote:
I do enjoy analyzing merely I'll do it later.
I haven't actually read the whole thread yet nor do I plan to for a while, I'm doing an observational approach where I'm absent from details and so see people in an unaltered habitat.

1) Basically later, probably tommorow, I'll post who I think is most likely to be scum and get them lynched. You can then judge me based on those analysis.

The best part about this thread is that even if there are 6 scum, in reality there are only two groups of three working against the thread. Both gangs would want to lynch the other gang, and thus they have a valid reason to scum hunt.

Actually will make analysis quite hard. But we can still do it.

Also RNG is retarded, a true random lynch will never lynch scum because scum won't let the thread randomly vote a scum. AKA scum won't random lynch.

On September 29 2013 05:34 Grackaroni wrote:
Attention all scummers, I will not be using a vest tonight because vests are for pussys. Thats a Grack promise right there. Perhaps one of you thinks I am on the rival scum team. Take your best shot.

On September 30 2013 01:48 Grackaroni wrote:

Yeah you're right. Palmar is way too much of a dumbass to be able to come up with town reads as scum. You have correctly identified my thought process and my alignment.

On September 30 2013 03:04 s0Lstice wrote:
fuck this is a long thread

On September 30 2013 03:51 Chairman Ray wrote:
I dunno if this is supposed to be answered, but do all mafia items cost KP? Are there no free items that they can use every night or a limited number of times? If so, I think we can safely assume that if we get two kills tonight, they won't be hidden by rap music or molotov cocktails. But then there's the sleepwalker.

On September 30 2013 05:31 VayneAuthority wrote:
im guessing cops shot at a townie and we have one dumb scumteam that for some inexplicable reason didn't use drive by

On September 30 2013 05:33 Grackaroni wrote:
I doubt BH used a vest.

On September 30 2013 05:37 Grackaroni wrote:
So Vayne, you want to kill Hiro?

On September 30 2013 06:09 Pandain wrote:


I will agree only because he does need to contribute more!

Pandain Koshi scumteam, off!

On September 30 2013 06:34 Pandain wrote:


Posting like that won't help you. You're shenanigans have lost me any attempt to use meta on you. I only use post analysis now.

What was your mindset, now that night one has passed. Was it to attract a shot, or to not get shot.

On September 30 2013 06:50 Grackaroni wrote:

That was my case on Koshi. He had no reason to think I was scum so I thought he was scum. He used it as an excuse to only comment on me and ignore the rest of the game. Posting less frequently, thought process less free-flowing etc.

I didn't think Koshi would actually believe what he did as town but apparently he does.

On September 30 2013 06:51 Grackaroni wrote:

hmmm I don't remember. I think it was before the BH RNG but I dont know.

On September 30 2013 06:52 WaveofShadow wrote:
I think it would be amazing if you three were on the same scumteam.

On September 30 2013 10:22 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
ShaioPi is a fantastic night shot tomorrow. If you're mafia not on ShaioPi's team shoot him plz you gotta kill the other team sometime eh? Or cops gogo.

On September 30 2013 16:17 ShiaoPi wrote:

cause I ain't scum

On September 30 2013 22:17 Palmar wrote:
Modkilling him would've been better though, sparing me the trouble of dealing with it.

In fact if the hosts could just modkill everyone but me that'd be grand.

On October 01 2013 04:55 WaveofShadow wrote:
So here's a question---hopefully I can get some responses to it before I come back later this evening.
If you're not voting for FirmTofu, can you explain why?
Is there anyone who finds him particularly unlikely to flip scum? Because if the answer is 'no' I would expect a lot more votes.

On October 01 2013 19:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
Are you even reading his posts?

On October 01 2013 19:57 Oatsmaster wrote:

So you think VA is scum?

On October 02 2013 00:30 ShiaoPi wrote:

tell me who I am currently tunneling lol

On October 02 2013 00:34 ShiaoPi wrote:
I really don't get what you are having in your mind with the word tunneling. What I did was far from tunneling. also he is not a townread of mine, just waiting to see what he brings to the table next couple of cycles ( if he survives that is)

I admit that I am fairly useless currently, but with VE taken off my list for now, the read I wanted to push today is gone. Currently I am looking into Mr.CC, VA, solstice, which takes some time man

On October 02 2013 02:47 Grackaroni wrote:
I think I've angered Koshi enough for one game.
##Vote: ShiaoPi
good luck with that Mr. Pelikoneet

On October 02 2013 04:55 Koshi wrote:
If SP flips scum above 2 might be scum with him. Make mental note.

On October 02 2013 04:56 ShiaoPi wrote:
whatever done with this town that is killing ppl off weak meta cases mostly
see you in the obs qt

On October 02 2013 05:16 VayneAuthority wrote:
good lynch, no martyrs allowed

On October 02 2013 23:05 Oatsmaster wrote:
Rayn could totally play ballsy town but Im not sure he would push you in that way.

Vayne can also play really well as scum, I dont think he got really put under a lot of suspicion until the end of Golden Sun.

On October 02 2013 23:03 Palmar wrote:
Someone mentioned cops shooting FT tonight and asking FT not to use his vest. I think that would be a pretty solid plan.

On October 03 2013 01:23 VayneAuthority wrote:


You don't tell the thread shit unless they are lynch some one in the town circle. The point of it is for the cops to gain a running tally on all town members they find. They can then pass on other town members to the next walkie talkie target and the previous members will know to follow the cops lead until you basically have another "scumteam" with even more members. that are actually town.

On October 03 2013 02:04 Oatsmaster wrote:
WoS, why are you pushing me?
Im totes confirmed town for being right about shiao pi.

On October 03 2013 02:10 WaveofShadow wrote:

Gosh, you're subtle.

Hey Koshi, let's say I had a waning townread on you.
What would that mean for your D3 play?

On October 03 2013 02:11 Oatsmaster wrote:

Yeah Im so far like almost always right dude.
And I think ive played at least 10 town games in a row now.

On October 03 2013 02:12 WaveofShadow wrote:

How were you Batman before this?
Most of what I remember from your play is the rage when we were about to RNG lynch you.